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I always thought the route to go with Goldberg was to take out all the heels (hogan, nash, giant, hall, flair, etc.) at PPVs, the gradually turn him heel. Then have him steamroll over all the top faces, until Sting beats him at Starrcade 99.
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Lone Rogue posted:How would you ever turn Goldberg heel after being that dominant? Have him become increasingly arrogant and just act like everybody in WCW is not on his level.
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Oct 25, 2011 02:18
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUM6sbx12e0&feature=related This is the best music-related Jeff Jarrett thing ever.  There is a lip-synching hint at 2:12
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Dec 18, 2011 01:24
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Austin's music is a hard version of Razor's, and Razor's is a knock off of "Those Shoes" by The Eagles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57-bBwiIsWU
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Jan 18, 2012 03:52
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The most  part of Bret's book is when he's talking about a tour of Israel:"I was particularly amazed by the imprint of a human hand in a white stone wall. Dorit (the tour guide) told me it was said that Jesus leaned there while carrying the cross. My hand fit inside the imprint. Hitman: My Real Life in the Cartoon World of Wrestling p 340
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Jan 28, 2012 01:26
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Is that video actually an official WCW release?
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Feb 19, 2012 22:19
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I was at the library earlier today, and they had a book by Vince Russo. I think it was called "How WCW Killed Me" or something along those lines. Has anyone read this book? I didn't bother borrowing it, but if it's an entertaining trainwreck I will go there tomorrow.
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Apr 4, 2012 00:58
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I've started Russo's book. I'm 8 chapters (actually only 42 pages) in. He's devoted more space to his childhood friends than he has wrestling so far. Also, Ed Ferrara is the best writer he's ever seen - comparable to Stephen King even!
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Apr 5, 2012 01:28
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I went through the next 6 chapters of Russo's book. Highlights! - The Harris brothers should have been huge stars. No one knew how to book them! - Everyone in wrestling has their own posse, and they all are cancerous to their organizations. Except Russo's posse. Those guys were good - If Roddy Piper could have made fun of fat women, then WCW would have done better - Tank Abbot would beat Sid in a real fight, so it made sense to propose that Tank win the title - Disco Inferno's idea for a martian invasion was brilliant. Except when other people said it was stupid, then it was just Disco joking around
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Apr 5, 2012 18:20
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The martian thing would have been like the nWo, but the wrestlers were martians. Lance Storm would be the leader. But, Mike Tenay would be the secret mastermind, and they'd cut to a shot of him having antenas sprout from his forehead.
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Apr 5, 2012 21:36
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DeathChicken posted:The Narcissist was really the best gimmick Luger ever had. He even played it perfectly in the ring. He was this big oaf who just wanted to check himself out in his mirrors, and would knock you out to go back to the important task of checking himself out in the mirrors. Mr Wonderful also had this gimmick in WCW. This led to a funny match against Disco Inferno. Orndorff was posing in the mirror, and Disco decided to look over Orndorff's shoulder so he could check his hair. Orndorff promptly knocked Disco out and pinned him.
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Apr 18, 2013 15:18
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I would still watch of Kozlov were around. Push kick to Sheamus! Push kick to Ryback! Push kick to JTG! It would be awesome to still be in a world where the push kick could be seen every Monday night.
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Jun 20, 2013 13:18
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Judeccahedron posted:"Blood Runs Cold, huh? Look at the adjective... 'run'. We ain't here to run." Running would have resulted in quad injuries for at least 2/3 of the nWo.
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Jul 23, 2013 05:08
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Who were the Overlords?
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Aug 12, 2013 15:56
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Sting is really not a Hall of Fame level talent. He's about the equivalent of Kane - he had a long career with a recognizable look, a few good matches, a few memorable angles, but not a guy you would ever want to build the company around. He was only considered the face of WCW because he never left, and WCW always seemed to replace him as the top babyface whenever they had the chance.
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Sep 11, 2013 20:12
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Call Me Charlie posted:I love how all the excuses on why Hogan can't turn heel are basically the same ones people use for Cena today. John Cena already is a heel, but he's a heel aimed only at smarks. Smarks wants Cena to behave like a traditional heel just so they can cheer him. Cena is doing everything that smarks hate. Seriously, Cena in his current incarnation is a better heel for opponents like Bryna, Punk or RVD than any traditional heel chracter would be.
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Sep 18, 2013 19:52
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I'm listening to TSN Radio and they just had Mark Madden on there. I forgot how loving obnoxious he was.
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Jan 7, 2014 16:44
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MassRafTer posted:I wish I still had the Stevie Ray remixes that GH and Joe did back in the day. I wish I had pretty much everything GH and Joe did back in the day. I have no clue if it holds up but I remember their Monday night recaps being hilarious.
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Jan 29, 2014 14:49
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Macho Man's reviving elbow was either the greatest thing ever or the stupidest thing ever. It really played towards smarks and the overall subtext of wrestling, but I think it probably went over most people's heads. For those of you that don't know what this is, at some WCW ppv the Hulkster was laid out by a group of heels (I think the Dungeon of Doom). Savage ran in and hit the flying elbow on Hulk. This triggered Hogans ability to hulk up, and he ran off the heels.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:28
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Halloween Jack posted:
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Feb 28, 2014 16:48
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The funny thing is Earthquake actually worked a dark match in 1998 before the Golga gimmick and he looked fine and got a good reaction. There was footage of the match on YouTube at one point. I'm phone posting so I can't check right now.
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Mar 13, 2014 20:21
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I was wrong - the Earthquake dark match is from 2001. He fought Joey Abs. It's right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfpTylKeHsM
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Mar 14, 2014 02:21
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Thauros posted:They had to promise Hogan he'd break the streak to get him to lose the belt at the Georgia Dome? Somehow after all these years I still regularly find new reasons to hate that man. One of the main reasons WCW signed Ultimate Warrior in 1998 was so Hogan could avenge his loss from 1990.
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Jun 20, 2014 17:45
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EugeneJ posted:Whenever someone mentions Eddie Gilbert in WCW, I immediately think of the WCW game for NES that was impossible to beat One of my friends had this game. It was impossible to get past the 2nd level, nonetheless beat the drat thing. Eventually he got a turbo controller and that allowed him to beat the game.
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Jul 23, 2014 15:01
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This reminds me of when I was younger and spent my time online at the wrestleZone chat rooms, and the metric people would use for how good a wrestler was was the number of moves a wrestler did. Blue Meanie was considered better than StoneCold, as Meanie could do a moonsault.
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Jul 31, 2014 17:36
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Akileese posted:I can't find the video but he had a match against Jim Duggan later in his career in which Duggan pretty much stiffed him, no sold everything, and then refused to assist in any way. It's like trying to watch someone lead a dance with a 300 pound manikin. That was his debut as Berlyn! The gimmick had garnered a lot of interest, but this match pretty much killed off all of that interest right off the bat, and Wright never really recovered.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:46
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I can't recall a ton of good Jarrett matches from his WWF runs. There was his classic with HBK, a few decent ones with Razor in 1995, and Summerslam with XPac in 1998. I really can't think of anything else that really stands out. Someone mentioned some Owen matches. When did these happen?
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Nov 12, 2014 19:23
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Red posted:WWF Corporate Champion Ric Flair would have been amazing. This would have been awesome. I can't think of a better choice. Maybe DiBiase, but he was retired by this point.
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Hogan was almost a mythical figure back then. If you only watched the syndicated shows, you'd never see him wrestle. Through the commentary, interview segments and the video packages you'd know he was the man but unless you could stay up late on Saturdays you'd never actually see him wrestle. This really helped him seem like a big deal.
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Oct 29, 2015 12:24
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Mid 90s WCW had a pretty deep undercard. Hogan's buddies were overpushed, but you still had guys like Badd, DDP, Wright, Konnan, and more receiving solid singles pushes. The tag scene was deep too, with Harlem Heat, the Blue Bloods and Stars and Stripes all being fairly successful acts.
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Nov 3, 2015 15:01
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That beats own is brutal, and the only comparable one I can think of is when Perry Saturn beat the poo poo out of some jobber (I think it was Mike Bell).
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Nov 4, 2015 14:39
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david carmichael posted:and then mike bell died from huffing scotch guard. Petty Saturn is a monster, and I'm glad he bears the mark of Cain on his face for this.
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Nov 4, 2015 14:50
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I used to spend a lot of time in wrestling chat rooms, and when the finger poke episode happened there was an overwhelmingly positive reaction to the angle. People thought it was great and reinvigorated WCW. It turns out that we were all idiots. I thought WCW was going to win the ratings that night. It was when WCW lost that it became very apparent that they were in a lot of trouble.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:31
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Raw won the night overall, 5.7 to 4.9. Nitro just had a big increase for the closing angle. I believe the last night that Nitro won the ratings was when they replayed the Goldberg/DDP Halloween Havoc match.
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I always felt WCW's last stand was the New Blood angle. The company may have already been in trouble by that point, but they didn't seem like they were beyond the point of no return. They had a chance to showcase a bunch of new stars with this angle, and establish a new base of guys to build the company around. It seemed like after losing Jericho, The Giant, the Radicals and Raven that WCW had finally come to their senses and was going to establish their new generation. Then they turned them all heel and jobbed them out to the old-timers and you realized that it was still going to be the same old poo poo forever.
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its me glenda posted:If only the spooky wcw yo-yo would have helped wcw bounce back
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Jan 12, 2017 21:43
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The 2K series is fine if you want to do a realistic WWE heavyweight match from 2010.
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Feb 26, 2019 23:18
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I thought Crush, Luger and Bigelow would be the only guys strong enough to slam Yoko but I figured it would be Crush since he was a good guy.
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ChrisBTY posted:Ok I'm turning convo back a bit. The Truth Commission is even worse than those stables.
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That 75k in 1999 was for less than 3 months.
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