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got dat wmd posted:possibly expanding take any tune and make it big
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Dumbledore 64 posted:yeah probably i just thought it was neat do a kickstarter for "research"
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May 30, 2012 22:28
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no like, invent cold fusion or something and have a bunch of craft moms doing that already and boom, cold fusion everywhere
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May 31, 2012 00:04
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my emulsion...
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Aug 21, 2012 19:18
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it's really got the smell of someone who noticed the hordes of nerds maintaining wikipedia or memory alpha, completely misunderstood how such hordes are assembled, and tried to create a nerdhorde artificially
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Sep 11, 2012 00:41
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Ian McLean posted:anyone can play around with anyone's data that right there that's the hopeless idealism i was talking about
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Sep 11, 2012 00:55
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Ian McLean posted:Obviously both(perhaps multiple) parties would get credit. The data gatherers, and the data manipulators. no, it's not about the "credit" or w/e strawman you aligned me with it's this idea that there's a website out there and some bored nerd goes and finds a data set and starts working on it that's never going to happen. wiki only works because people understand an encyclopedia and want to get their viewpoint out in *the* collection of human knowledge. memory alpha only works because of the pre-existing rabid fan base of trek. you've got.. nothing. i basically agree with you that it'd be awesome to have a nerd horde I could toss data to, but you can't just spit out a website and expect the nerd horde to follow, the hordes you see are driven from within
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Sep 11, 2012 01:13
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Ian McLean posted:and thus natural selection would still play a role in market efficiency. what type of industrial lubricant have you got over there to prevent chafing
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Sep 11, 2012 01:17
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Ian McLean posted:So... lets just discount the hordes of professors, graduate students, and researchers out there that might want a place to easily upload their data to be saved in a system that they can get recognition for their work have you ever interacted with any of these people, described your idea, and received positive feedback? or are you the kinda idea guy unfettered by the actual people you want to "help"?
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Sep 11, 2012 01:27
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Ian McLean posted:SOME RANDO SNATCHES THE DATA UP AND ADDS IT TO STATPEDIA i mean normally that's not somewhere people are strong, but seeing as you're trying to found a business on exactly that... duTrieux. posted:Ian, I've been thinking and am fairly sure that this can be bootstrapped in such a way that that the site can fund its own development. You can focus (short-term) on electoral/political statistics, crowd-sourced from armchair wonks energized by the upcoming election. Use a basic wiki paired with something like gnu/pspp as a platform. Drupal might also be useful.
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Sep 11, 2012 15:49
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 prior artrotor posted:I saw shelley on arsenio and she did the cherry stem thing irl and I literally doublecame
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Sep 11, 2012 18:17
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Sep 11, 2012 20:55
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Ian McLean posted:statpedia update were you.. did someone request updates? it's like watching a black box being recorded
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Sep 13, 2012 00:24
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Cocoa Crispies posted:bro we're just gonna go in and upvote goatse and downvote poo poo you stole from w3schools perhaps he could build some type of "trust" system
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Sep 15, 2012 17:02
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Ian McLean posted:I can just innovate lol i think your real problem has nothing to do with the code, or what's being coded, or what price you're paying your coders. if you had 2 million and your budget scaled and you had millions of lines of code pouring into this thing, versus your current budget, it wouldn't make the slightest difference in your final product's success or failure
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Sep 17, 2012 21:39
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do you have the requisite cognitive dissonance prepped?
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Sep 17, 2012 23:42
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i guess it's just politics related stuff but i've seen a bunch of stats nerds nerding out about stats all over the place http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/17/romney-is-behind-and-the-debates-arent-likely-to-save-him/?tid=pm_business_pop analysis of all previous presidential elections' polling results versus final outcomes if you had a platform to centrally collect all that and some tools for working it, then that research could've been done on it
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Sep 20, 2012 00:16
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MORE CURLY FRIES posted:lol they should've just linked to the ouya kickstarter and said "do nothing like this"
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Sep 21, 2012 16:28
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i like how he's wasting time on kickstarter while the opportunity of a lifetime is just sailing right by have an electoral map have poll results allow people to fit them together, e.g. show the electoral map based on THESE polls and THIS demographic shaping there is no site currently offering this service all that noise over #unskewedpolls? imagine that happening on statpedia
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Sep 25, 2012 17:55
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"an array of statistical tools" is such overkill, goddamn slider bars for R/D/I and the % voting for each would be enough people just want to confirm their narrative, anyone seriously making a go at it won't need a flash app
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Sep 25, 2012 18:05
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im irl mad at Ian for squandering this opportunity
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Sep 25, 2012 18:05
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ok i honestly can't imagine how insulated you'd have to be to not understand what polling is you know all those maps with red and blue states? they come from people looking at poll results and predicting how states would vote in the election. poll results have 'crosstabs' that show the demographic breakdown of responses to questions. people are taking the poll results and applying the demographic turnouts from previous elections to predict how the state's electoral votes would happen your STAT website could take the poll STATS and the previous election STATS and let people combine them and produce an electoral map that they could take a picture of to post on their blogs or emails or whatnot
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Sep 26, 2012 05:37
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wow we just turned the crazy up to 11 while i was typing didnt we
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Sep 26, 2012 05:38
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Ian McLean posted:Didn't need the insulting remark in the beginning yeah you did you couldn't manage to go from "polling" to "the thing my website specializes in" this is literally your only role in this project and somehow, beyond all expectation, you're managing to be an inept "idea guy"
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Sep 26, 2012 06:17
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it's a time sensitive idea requiring a complex implementation and given your lethargic approach and dearth of talent there's no way you'll actually be able to build it while it'd be relevant so gj on the outsourcing can we provide any more disappointing visions of what statpedia could've been with a competent visionary at the helm?
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Sep 26, 2012 06:48
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i'd honestly expect most programmers to be able to come up with something that shits colored electoral maps in a matter of hours. the graphics is literally the hardest thing, but I guess I assumed someone literally focusing in data visualization wouldn't find that too big of a stumbling block you know that great things don't immediately shoot for 100% complete, right? you build something basic but extensible and slowly iterate and add features (side note go read this it's full of platitudes you think you'll understand) by the end of today, you could have a map that let people just assign a state R or D and show people the electoral totals for that R/D layout. again, for a data visualization specialist this is something they'd punt to an intern and expect it in a few hours but i'll be generous and give your team a day. that's 100% of your visualization, the actual poll data is just fancier data to color states instead of binary in parallel you could have someone working on getting poll results onto statepedia. hooking the two halves up shouldn't be too hard, could probably have it by end of the week here's a pertinent question about statepedia: will you be writing any code that manipulates statistics? or giving users a dynamic toolbox to do it themselves? i can't imagine too many users would actually get into the 'code' side of analysis and the poll idea i'm pushing relies on your team writing a lot of logic to handle the data. but if you've been planning on punting that element entirely to the users which would be more in line with your solution-searching-for-problem mentality, i can see why it'd be a little odious right this second, can statepediea match the computational ability available to me in a single Excel cell?
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Sep 26, 2012 15:46
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Blackula69 posted:This already exists in dozens of different permutations i haven't seen one that would let you save a model? like say i want to predict ohio at D+5 and fl at R+20 or w/e and be able to come back and pick the poll i want to use for each state plenty of 'make different map' but nothing that would let me plug a whole model together and save out a map without incremental effort
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Sep 26, 2012 17:24
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goddamit get off frameworks if you actually had a shred of passion you'd be charging off to do poo poo your OWN way instead of rubbing yourself raw over something that did a chunk of the work for you and the entire strength i'm proposing is automagically taking in new poll results and making them available as GUI elements that can be easily manipluated and assigned relative weights if you think i've been imagining your user screwing around with a spreadsheet you're daft
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Sep 26, 2012 17:28
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ZYNGA STOCK CRASHER posted:see but she has things your kickstarter has: a working product & process, a predictable result, and actual rewards
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Sep 26, 2012 17:29
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hey ian, how's it going, long time http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3508372&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=58#post407939357 there's a couple customers (one even a programmer willing to make it a reality!!) for the site you can't build cheers
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Sep 26, 2012 18:46
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ten dollar bitcoin posted:Jawn make the statpedia i concur with the assessment that it's a solution in search of a problem there's one obvious problem that would take the least effort to tune statpedia to, but since Ian's never heard the phrase "likely voter" he can't slap it together in the 41 days that somebody would give a poo poo seriously it's the one time every 4 years that statistics is meaningful to a lot of people and we're here on a computer joke forum with Serious Questions about the tone of the discussion. after this window, the only people who will care about statistics and amateur toolsets are fantasy sports wonks
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Sep 26, 2012 21:28
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yeah if i can make a request, pls make sure the next crazy we invite has some asm experience
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Sep 26, 2012 21:30
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btw here's the extant pretty frontends: http://www.270towin.com/ http://electoralmap.net so i'm saying you hook one of THOSE up to some polling data and the user just specifies a model (e.g. use rasmussen only, assume R+10 turnout and I's go 80% R) that will automagically update with new polling data when available
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Sep 26, 2012 21:59
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Vlad the Retailer posted:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone?ref=live yeah idk about this one competent team, concrete vision, can legit deliver if funded then they're doing shifty benchmarking, that chart that has a tenuous basis in reality, describing a bunch of hard algorithmic problems and assuming a new compute substrate would magically make that disappear but what really irks me above all else is the unstated assumption that the branches of computer science and engineering dedicated to parallel computing are basically treading water until some slashdot script kiddie gets a $100 kit and cracks that nut
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Oct 1, 2012 15:48
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Jonnty posted:Isn't it more "these slashdot script kiddies will very soon have to learn parallel programming so they may as well make all their mistakes now so they don't create coding horrors in ten years time?" he's using the same kind of fearmongering and bullshit that people were flinging around when the first mainstream dual cores came out which was the same fearmongering bullshit that came out with the first batch of multicore systems ever i'm biased though, because right at the start when he says "we hit a frequency wall, we hit a memory bottleneck, and things just stopped" and i fly into a nerd rage because what the gently caress am i doing every goddamn day except exactly those two things
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Oct 1, 2012 18:21
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MORE CURLY FRIES posted:lol this thing is better at tracking stats than the failed kickstarter its tracking
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Oct 5, 2012 00:10
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Ian McLean posted:best practices. have you been granted an honorary mba yet
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Oct 6, 2012 15:04
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basically any claims of cold fusion are tantamount to "the capitalist system has failed"
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Oct 7, 2012 01:13
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Ian McLean posted:Go gently caress yourself. Tired of being mocked by people here. Statpedia was doing just fine without all you mother fuckers giving me a hard time. Ian McLean posted:When I am not on here, just expect me to be learning and researching stuff like this: http://www.dwavesys.com/en/dev-tutorials.html so that I will continue to stay ahead of the game. gently caress you and your primitive algorithms. there isn't a general purpose quantum computer on the horizon. there's a multi-billion dollar industry with the regular ones where several of us are gainfully employed, but go ahead man, pin your hopes on something with literally no chance of being usable in your lifetime. that way, when you fail, it won't be Your fault Ian McLean posted:I will be a billionaire. Statpedia is the most beautiful search engine on the market. Search results are displayed on search for anyone to see without even having to click on anything, and time is only going to make this display better. Statpedia is first class. And when the statpedia code is reused with a landing page showing a different logo than "Statpedia", this search engine will be the foundation for any niche search topic on the internet. Ian McLean posted:If I want to go to Stanford... I don't even have to apply to Stanford. How? Here is one possibility: Nicely say to someone that I want to study at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, and it is probably not much more than filling out a few documents and being in good academic standing. Then... if I am up at Stanford, all I have to do is show that I am likable and competent to right person, and I am in their school (IF I WANT TO GO THERE). Not that Statpedia isn't interesting enough on its own to probably get me in Stanford; even if they do not see the full vision. Where did the previous director of the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center get his PHD from in Elementary Particle Physics? UCI. i think your ego could stand some bruising, if only to get a little self-awareness into that thick skull Ian McLean posted:Even if I do not know everything, I will continue to hire and work alongside intelligent people to get things where they need to be.
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jesus christ ian how many lives is statpedia going to ruin before you shut it down
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