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ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Finished Spear of the Emperor.

Some cool bits, loved the idea of the Mentor legion and hope it's explored more. I love reading about Astartes forces and how they play a part, e.g. Wrath of Iron had some good bits around how they dealt with resupply etc. The idea that Gulliman is mooting the idea of giving up on Imperium Nihilus was interesting.

I know ADB is working on a sequel.. however I really think a story like this would have suited a couple of Richard Morgan length novels rather than BL pissy page lengths. The Night Lords trilogies all felt better on their own, while this to me needed a little more. Aside from that another great ADB book.

ed balls balls man fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jun 17, 2019

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ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Heer98 posted:

Is the book you guys are talking about Spear Of The Emperor? Because I see a book that’s due to be released in December, is that the sequel?

The limited edition of it game out 6 months ago I believe, and the kindle version (in the UK atleast, not sure about other territories) was released last Saturday on the BL website and Amazon. But yeah, is Spear of the Emperor.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Chiwie posted:

They have a super good time in spears.

:buddy:

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Dave Bautista as Nayl.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
I think Jamues Purefoy with a shaved head for Eisenhorn, if you've ever watched The Following or Rome I think he's got the chops for it.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

D-Pad posted:

So I mentioned them after I read them, but I haven't seen much discussion in here regarding the more recent books. The Hollow Mountain, The Great Work, Rites of Passage, Celestine, The Solar War, The Lost and the Damned.

Let's get some recent lore discussion going. What are y'all's thoughts on any of these you've read. Celestine was lackluster, but I really enjoyed all the others. Or if anybody has questions about these or their lore I can answer.

Reading through The Great Work after recently reading through The Devestation of Baal and Plague War. Guy Haley is great in the sense he can smash out ok books consistently but I never come away from one of his novels absolutely blown away like I do with Abnett or Demski-Bowden and occasionally Wright.

I feel he's the go to guy to forward the plot because he can write it in 3 months to a good standard and include all the latest model releases without kicking up a fuss.

I've said this before quite a lot, especially about Abnett. But I'd like to see Haley given his own little corner of the universe to write about and give him a decent page length rather than the 400 odd pages every 40K book is. I wish we saw more variety of novel length from BL, its rare I don't read something and think it could do with another hundred pages. It's a good sign he's been given a Siege of Terra book though which I haven't read yet.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

AndyElusive posted:

Man, I'm listening to the audio of The Crimson King and somebody at Black Library has got to tell Jonathan Keeble to stop using that bad Chinese impression whenever he speaks as a character from the White Scars or in this case Yasu Nagasena.

*laughs in atilla: total war*

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Ego-bot posted:

One hilarious part in it was a bunch of space marines are defending a planet from the Iron Warriors and they've accepted that they're all going to die. One of them says "At least we'll be killed by the Archenemy. Could you imagine being killed by the Tau?"

This rules.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Titanicus is great just for Abnett's depiction of Skitarii before they actually had models and became steampunk shite.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
I'm really struggling with The First Wall.. about 45% in.. does it get better? Or Gav Thorpe through and through?

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Technowolf posted:

Isn't he the only guy who really knows how to create new marines for the chaos forces basically? It's either go to him or see what sick thing the Iron Warriors have cooked up this time.

I think it's more for the smaller warbands who don't have access to as much legion legacy equipment etc.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Pyrolocutus posted:

Don't worry, Cawl will just implement Primaris Something Awful.

Imperial Regent Radium will return Titan from the warp when ready.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

bagrada posted:

Weird, Guy Haley's Dark Imperium book is no longer on kindle/Amazon for me, aside from overpriced used copies. It was there before, I wonder if they took it down by mistake when the boxed game set went OOP.

It's still on black library but it's on the middle of page 2 if you search for it by name.

IIRC they took down Dark Imperium/Plague Wars etc due to the coronavirus connotations.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

a lovely king posted:

That's mental, have you got a source for that?

Nah just reading between the lines of Guy Haley's Twitter replies back in mid-March.

I just scrolled back to some in May and he's hinting the third is coming fairly soon and maybe an update to the other two. Maybe a short story to help tie it together with Indomidus?

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

MariusLecter posted:

That and since it takes the 40K equivalent of mining bitcoin to produce a single syllable of Enuncia I can see how it's not something more known about.

This is my favorite way to explain Enuncia.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
The first Ben Counter Grey Knights book in my head I remember being great. However, I must have read it like 15 years ago now? There is one scene I remember bugging me:

Don't they visit a feudal world and are nearly captured by a bunch of guys on horses? Some amazing setpieces in that book though and a great depiction of how they pool their powers together and through force-weapons.

The ending with Tancred and the whole "I am the.." speech owns, one of the best scenes written along with Camba Diaz on the bridge by Abnett and bladebreaking scene with Hyperion by ADB.

ed balls balls man fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Sep 18, 2020

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

D-Pad posted:

Got this back from the framer today

Awesome. Would love something like that in my office one day.

ed balls balls man fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Feb 26, 2021

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Facehammer posted:

Ben Counter has written some absolute belters, despite himself.

The first Grey Knights book is quite possibly the most metal thing ever written.

deffo belter tier

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Can't believe I was 10 when Necropolis came out. One of the books that really capatulted me into reading more and more. Blew my mind at the time.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Improbable Lobster posted:

Yeah, it was written before AdMech/Skitarii had a codex so it has a lot of weird and cool descriptions. What a great book.

My headcanon still has the titanicus skitari as legit.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

D-Pad posted:

I finished Urdesh. Lots of bolter porn but overall pretty good. Worth picking up I'd say.

I'm halfway through and its nice to read some bolter porn that's a bit more thought out. Farrer was a great choice to take over some Iron Snakes work as his previous Adeptus Arbites books went into a lot of similar Abnett-detail world building, and he writes marines in the same style as Dan.

All very well thought out, not just marines screaming and charging into poo poo.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

D-Pad posted:

The new Gaunt's Ghost book was great. Apparently it's going to be a new series running in parallel to the main one. Some very interesting revelations that I am excited to see play out. The new Sabbat War anthology was also excellent.

Urdesh? I really enjoyed its depiction of Astartes, similiarly to the way Abnett/ADB writes them. Not just charging in at poo poo with helmets off but genuinely masters of their craft. Felt a little short though. Big fan of Farrer's work after his Arbites novels.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

D-Pad posted:

Urdesh was great, but no the new GG book Vincula Insurgency. It's only out in LE for now. It follows the ghosts on their 2nd deployment so everybody you loved that bastard Abnett killed off is back. It's got some big revelations about a certain order of Tanith tree ninjas. It's set in Vincula shortly after the Imperial victory and the Ghosts are tasked with security against an Iraq style insurgency. It's going to be an ongoing side series exploring this new storyline and what was happening to the Ghosts in between books.

I don't think BL did a particularly good job hyping it because I don't think many people actually realize a new Gaunt's Ghosts book was released.

Man I had no idea and i've bought every book on release since First and Only. Thanks for the heads up.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
So, new Dawn of Fire novel announced - The Wolftime. Bad news is they've given it to Gav Thorpe. The premise though, does sound interesting.

With Gate of Bones being completely average, and now with Gav somehow given Space Wolves - if this isnt good i'll take it off my immediate purchase list.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
I just finished Miles Cameron's first sci-fi novel Artifact Space and it was absolutely fantastic. He signed a GW contract a while ago and while I assumed it was for fantasy/AoS I would be really excited to see what he could do with a 40K novel.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

Saturnine is truly great, in my opinion 10/10 and one of abnett’s strongest books. In the context of the SOT it feels like “and then more stuff happened” but the actual quality of the prose, the craft, is head and shoulders above most BL writers and even Abnett’s earlier work. It’s genuinely moving.

I'm not one of these loving reddit nerds that gushes how a book or game or something changed my life for karma but the Camba Diaz bridge scene was absolutely mindblowing.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Dog_Meat posted:

Then suddenly there's Psi-Titans (or were they blanks?) which are meant to be a huge thing, but they kind of get a big entrance and then... stand there and die?




Yeah I got this vibe also.

Big build up about unleashing them, marching to war, then one scene and that was pretty much it. No actual part of the story at all.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
The HH cinematic was cool - I think nailed the scale of HH. The problem I have is - firstly why Horus having so many drat tubes in his head.

Also after watching Astartes you don't see the hypercompetency of Astartes - they just look like generic dudes in armour rather than elite gene-modified killers where one kill ratio is a full platoon to one legionnaire. I know that's nullified as its astartes vs astartes but you just don't see why they're elite. Not a big deal but just my thoughts.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Realistically the only thing could be a kill team maybe? Easy way to test the waters and get a single kit out.

Worked well for Kreig and those new pirate eldar from what I can tell?

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Little behind everyone but just finished Penitent. What a loving wild ride. Great read. What was up with the random Malleus inquisitor though? Interested to read more.. from the big Valdor reveal, to 5 craftworlds bearing down, the Immaterium Collage. I missed a bunch of HH books because they were so bad but have the College been covered before? This feels like a huge game changer that doesn't seem reflective in the TT yet though.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Waroduce posted:

Pentinent Ending Spoiler Discussion


to Ed balls balls man's point I really wonder how they're going to or if they're going to have a nice big let down at the end where this apparently massive and powerful splinter faction dies quietly in the dark. Hell maybe they were responsible for the Great Rift and trying to give big E a jolt and they all got wiped out doing that.



I didn't reread Pariah before diving into this - so I could be talking poo poo.

But Pariah was written in 2012/2013 when GW was peak arse - a backwards looking company nickle and diming everything with BL churning out poor value limited editions, crap HH and a million shorts.. I don't think originally Abnett was going to go so hard with this storyline originally. Might be because I haven't reread but I don't remember any hints of the Blood Angels before - but now Valdor has potentially legion strength in the warp.

Now - the SoT books have started to add to this thread with Valdor and the geneticist. Now GW is back, advancing the story, squats are back, primaris, Eldar refresh. Covid hits causing delays across the launches - but I really feel this is the next big storyline like most others have said.

Only thing that I really need exploring is

A) The Malleus inqusitor who just, gave up being an inquisitor.
B) Eisenhorn/Ravenor was set before the Nids were even about - and if Valdor is close to completiing his plan - does that mean it was all finished and it isnt the next big thread? Or stuck in the warp shenanagins etc.
C) If Alizibeth was one of the templates for Pariahs used by Valdor - then the Graels, big plan can't be that old surely - however it was noted a few times how decoding enuncia took a long time and its nearly over, discarding of the Cognitae etc.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Waroduce posted:

ADBs Siege book up for pre order on Amazon for mid September

So excited for this. I really need to reread his HH books - they're all incredible.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

bob dobbs is dead posted:

i repeat my amazement at black library or at least the 40k bit always getting poo poo out on time. how do they do that? what the hell? is there an article or something talking with this? what pact with chaos did kyme and the others intone to get this to happen?

They only announce poo poo when they have it pretty much ready to go is the key I think. Look at varied length between SoT books. I might be wrong though!

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
For a higher-tier of bolter porn - Saturnine is incredibly satisfying.

The bridge scene and the depiction of the sister of silence is worth reading for alone

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006

Cooked Auto posted:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/14/sunday-preview-black-library-heroes-on-the-page-and-the-tabletop-amid-an-arcane-cataclysm

If there's anyone here who likes Rogal Dorn then next week Gav Thorpe's book about him goes up for pre-order in a limited edition format.

nooo

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
I enjoyed Lost and the Damned. I can't remember that much of it though. Wasn't there an alpha legion operative or two? Did that go anywhere? Think they popped in another but again can't remember details.

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ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
I'm a little late, but Titanicus had the best portrayal of the Skitarii, as beastial gladiator style warriors. Sucked as then Mechanicus faction was released and was kinda lame in comparison.

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