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SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

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Dolash posted:

You may be right about the brain drain, but don't talk too much poo poo about my hometown, or else we shall have to resort to internet fisticuffs!

Besides, can you buy Picaroons in Texas? I posit that you cannot. Point, New Brunswick.

Picaroons is pretty drat good. I buy it over Propeller, I really like their bitter. It's a toss up between them and Garrison's for me.

Oh, yeah, I don't know what they are thinking building all those condos/whatever they are around Bedford. That just seems crazy. and the WTC building they are thinking about? Waste of money. But then our new idiot mayor is talking about CFL and NHL here. WTF? He's a tool. I thought Kelly was bad, this shitheel is looking like a complete moron from the get go. But then I voted for the gay guy with the chickens and hair saloon.

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SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Isentropy posted:

I honestly think Savage might have been just recognizing where he is when it comes to those comments about bringing the CHL and NHL here. There would be quite a lot of people and shills for developers "journalists" at the Chronicle Herald out here decrying him if he came out and said that there is no loving way in hell that Halifax should have a CFL or NHL team. That is part of the problem here, in and of itself; people are so hungry for development that they don't matter what that development is or whether it belongs here. I'm from Toronto, and seeing developers and journalists say "if you build it they will come" without a hint of irony scares the gently caress out of me.

Kelly was an actual horrible human being, worse than Ford or pretty much anyone I can think of at the moment. Rob Ford was actually a decent person and did a lot for his district - Kelly has always been about the FYGM Bedford old boys crowd.

Yeah, you may be right there about Savage. And Kelly is a horrible human. I don't understand how he hot voted in so many times.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Ender.uNF posted:

Anyway you Canadians have my sympathies on your upcoming bubble pop; one can only hope it doesn't take the bubble in Canadian home improvement shows with it, elsewise what shall I watch?

Oh no! What will I do with out my Mike Holmes, Property Brothers, and Love it or List it! :)

Here in Halifax I think we are slowly deflating, honestly. I've seen prices coming down in some areas, and plateaued in others. But then I don't think we have the same sort of market that T.O. and Van have. People have been leaving here for Ontario and beyond since the beginning of the country. Van will probably pop hard.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

SpaceMost posted:

Do houses really only appreciate at 2%/yr on average?

No, sometimes they can depreciate too.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Rime posted:

Vancouver is a sleepy resource backwater that up and decided that it was going to put on a show of trying to be LA or New York, in a fashion not entirely dissimilar to Dubai.

Ah, Dubai, what a hell hole that place is, and that was before the crash. If I never see it again it'll be too soon. It couldn't happen to a nicer place. I do have to say it was impressive to see.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Isentropy posted:

If that is Vancouver I am legitimately honestly very, very, very scared about Halifax. Qualified tradesmen and builders do not suddenly exist out of thin air.

Again, Haligonians' opinion, but straight up banning the construction of new subdivisions or making them extremely financially unattractive until density is re-established is something I think needs to be done.

The incident that happened just the other day with the crane lift in downtown Halifax, the other incidents in the past year of people falling 10'+ off of scaffolding, and other issues that have happened, pretty much proves that the Health and Safety sector is pretty much a write off around here. It's just a matter of time before some or a group gets killed. For the most part the construction industry around here is horrid, but what do you expect when all the experienced workers have moved out west, and still do?

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

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Mr. Wynand posted:

Oh wait, I do get it, he's just being a caricature of "conservative" economics: socialize the losses, privatize the profits! Ahaha, gently caress that guy.

But but but... the job creators!

Yeah, gently caress that.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Fraternite posted:

You can only pull $25k from your RRSP for your house, so it's still complicated unless you're really bad at saving.

And remember too, you have to pay it back to your RRSP over the next 10 years or they add it to your income.

15 years. 10 years is for education.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Fine-able Offense posted:

The First Time Homebuyer Plan is a loving disgrace and a miscarriage of taxation policy, and it should be scrapped ASAP.

How about the LLP? I've used it to get my ticket, and it came in handy. Granted I paid it back in 2 years.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Spuckuk posted:

I live in London, UK.

Your rent is similar to ours, although a 2 bedroom apartment here would cost closer to 550,000 - 600,000 CD$

And why yes, I am trying to move out of here.

I'm starting to like my $210k 3 bedroom home in HRM then. Too bad there are other houses in my area that are way overpriced.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Rick Rickshaw posted:

Hah, first time reading this thread. Just bought a house in Halifax this summer, and this thread may have convinced me not to.

But looks like it wasn't a terrible idea after all!

Well, look on the bright side here on the east coast. We don't have far to fall. :)

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Cultural Imperial posted:

Nice. Is that per week?

I'd say that's per month.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe
Well, I'm fond of Halifax, but then I'm not a fan of cities that are much larger, and my job is kinda directly linked to the city, so I'm kinda stuck here, I guess.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

etalian posted:

It has lovely scenery and weather.

Well, it has weather, that's for sure. Though the scenery is lovely.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

OSI bean dip posted:

I could have sworn they had one already.

There is, right next door to the new one being built.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

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So I guess that having 100k rrsps, 20k liquid, and half of our mortgage (of our relatively modest home) paid off between the two of us isn't so bad. Yay me (and my wife)?

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Ikantski posted:

Depends if you're 25 or 55.

Unfortunately, 43. Oh well. Wife has a pension, and I've got... 20ish years left in my career.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Paywalled, drat. Oh well.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe
Airport hell talk: Get back to me when you've been to Logan in Boston. Ugh.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

PT6A posted:

It's true, it's probably the best airport I've ever been to in the world.

Schipol does rock, but Dubai's airport is amazing. Too bad the city sucks.

Canadian content, NS film credit protest going on now.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

jm20 posted:

I got in during 2010, and now my house investment is up 30-40%. The mortgage is being serviced with sub 20% household net income.

I think in general people are servicing their total housing costs with 50% of their net income, which is ludicrous.

Yeah, the wife and I are at about 20% of our income, give or take a few points, depending on my overtime and all that. Our investement is probably up about 20%, but I'm not counting on it as an investment, just a place to live that is cheaper than renting a 3 bedroom around here.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Reverse Centaur posted:

Fresh air and sunlight. Gets a bit depressing in this corner of the world without sunlight.

We have a blackout curtain which takes care of the light during sleeping and another lighter one for privacy only. During the day it's wide open.

Also I'm a giant pussy when it comes to humidity so we also have an AC unit that requires exterior ventilation. Looks like that's going back in next week.

It just feels too claustrophobic without a window. But I guess more people feel like you than like me, judging by new condos.

Also, in some places, like, for instance, CANADA, I think you need a window for escape, from, for instance, FIRE.

quote:

Question: Bedroom Window - Is it required by the BC Building Code?

Answer: The BC Building Code generally requires every bedroom in a house and every bedroom in a small multi-family residential building to have an outside window that can be used as an emergency exit. The window opening must be 0.35M2 with no dimension less than 380mm.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Freezer posted:

Holy poo poo, The Fifth Element predicting the future. Now I want that drat flying car. And the spaceship. And Leeloo.

Coffin hotels have been around since the early 80's.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

OSI bean dip posted:

I must be a sucker for paying for a wedding with cash. :smug:

My WIFE and I did the same thing.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe
Scotiabank: Canadian Stocks ‘In Severe Correction Territory' (Huffpost)

quote:

If your savings are tied up to any degree in Canadian stocks, you may want to take a look at your stock portfolio. Soon.

Canada’s stock markets are in worse shape than the headline numbers suggest, and have entered “severe correction territory,” Scotiabank says in a new analysis.

The Toronto Stock Exchange hit its lowest level of 2015 on Thursday, following another abysmal week for oil, with North American crude prices hitting a six-year low below $42 a barrel on Wednesday. The S&P TSX composite index closed down 299.63 points at 13,737.00, a low not seen since December of last year.

The TSX is down some 8.4 per cent over the past year, but Scotiabank’s managing director for portfolio strategy, Vincent Delisle, says that number is a “mirage.” Things are worse than that.

The bearish market has been distorted by one sector whose stocks have been soaring: health care. Those stocks have pushed up the TSX’s “trade-weighted” average, which measures the value of the market by averaging the value of all trades.

But that measure favours larger companies. If you look simply at all stock prices and average those — an “equal weight average” — the TSX is down 21 per cent over the past year, and down 9.2 per cent just since the start of this year, Delisle said in an analysis published Wednesday.

If high-flying Canadian health care stocks were excluded, the TSX should be around 12,500 instead of the 13,800 level it was flirting with Wednesday.

Still, Delisle says Canadian stocks are “extremely oversold” at this point, with stock prices already reflecting the “dire scenarios” for Canada’s energy sector. He believes investors should be looking at “buying opportunities up north.”

Valeant Makes The Market Look Better

Even as the broader market slides, Canadian health care stocks have been doing very well — more than doubling in value since the start of the year.

At the forefront of this is Valeant, whose stock value has jumped so much that last month it became Canada’s largest company, by market value, unseating the Royal Bank of Canada.

The Laval, Quebec-based drugmaker announced Thursday it is buying Sprout Pharmaceuticals, the company that recently developed “female Viagra” — a pill designed to boost sexual desire in women.

Valeant has been following a strategy of growing through acquisitions in recent years, helping the company nearly double its stock price this year. But the Sprout buyout didn’t go over well with investors. Valeant’s shares fell more than 5 per cent Thursday, to $303.14.

Still, the company’s shares are up 83 per cent so far this year.

This chart, published by BMO last month, illustrates what has been going on with healthcare stock prices in Canada. Notice any change right at the end there?

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

PT6A posted:

There's a man on the train trying to socialize with everyone. It's excruciating and I want it to end.

I had tourists ask me questions on the ferry today! How dare they! Like I want them to get where they are going! gently caress that! Oh, wait, I kind of do. Oh well, I helped them.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

PT6A posted:

Asking for directions/help is not the same as socializing (trying to tell jokes and chat to random people who aren't interested). I'll help people who ask for help, or even ask them if they need help if they're confused and looking at the map or something. That's normal. Trying to start conversations with random people is much less normal.


THC posted:

Asking for help or directions is fine. That's not the same thing as attempting to make friends with random commuters.

I actually work on the boat, so I end up having conversations with random people all the time, that eventually become what we call the regulars. Most of them are normal, but we get quite a few not so normal ones. I guess it's just a hazard of the job.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

mastershakeman posted:

Actually, it's Australians. We can all agree on that.

Nope, they have nothing on white South Africans.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe
Just renewed my mortgage. My rate went down by 1 percent. Oh well. Sucks to be me.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Cultural Imperial posted:

Holy poo poo did the sa short bus just unload into this loving thread

Who, me? Maybe, but I'm not in some McMansion, 10 minutes to work by car (can't take a bus, too far to walk) and I'm better than half paid off on this thing with my mortgage being my only loan outstanding. Still making investments, and have a pension at the end of this permanent job. To rent what equals this house around here now I'd be paying more than the mortgage. Still have to live somewhere, and the wife likes the place. Though she could change her mind. That's what I have to avoid, her wanting to move into something more expensive further out of town.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Cultural Imperial posted:

I will be the bullet farmer of deer lake. Witness me

Mediocre.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

EvilJoven posted:

You know what's hilarious. If they don't die before their nest eggs run out they're going to end up having what little we've managed to eke out for ourselves legislated into their hands.

Eat the richold.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe
Well, MY WIFE and I bought our house for 210K about 8 years ago, so just before the last crash, have the mortgage down to 106K. I couldn't rent anything near as nice as what I got for near the mortgage, but not including the bills. But I don't look at it as an investment, I look at it as a place to live.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

jm20 posted:

How can you honestly put a figure on the bottom of the RE market? I'm curious how you are coming to the conclusion that we will only roll back to 2012/2013 prices.

Yeah, I'm thinking more 2005 prices ,minimum.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

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Rime posted:

It's a felony with a $40,000 fine attached unless you're on a guided tour, and they do low altitude flybys of the valley regularly. People have been arrested hiking in the Coquitlam watershed, it's very much illegal.

What is a felony, are you some sort of yank?

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

Professor Shark posted:

I'm planning on investing in firearms

Wise. SKS is a good choice, used by Soviet conscripts, and still encountered to this day. Buy a few crates of ammo too! Be prepared. Canned food would be a good investment. (Christ, I'm channelling my father).

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe
And this is what's happening on the east coast:
Blue Mountain / Birch Cove Lakes Presentation “Public Meeting” a Complete Train Wreck

"Blue Mountain / Birch Cove Lakes Presentation “Public Meeting” a Complete Train Wreck
June 20, 2016 Ron Foley Macdonald 0 Comment Blue Mountain / Birch Cove Lakes, Halifax, Halifax City Council, Justice Heather Robertson, urban development
by Ron Foley Macdonald

The “Presentation” of Justice Heather Robertson’s report on the Blue Mountain/Birch Cove Lakes Park Proposal came to a screeching halt at a bizarre meeting held in the tiny meeting room at the Lacewood Future Inn this evening.

Hundreds of people showed up for the meeting, held in a room that had a maximum capacity for 120.

The 35-minute meeting, surely the shortest and most deranged Municipal meeting I’ve ever attended, saw Justice Robertson attempt to justify her report, while a City solicitor added some technical details, before a developer sputtered through a plan to disembowel the proposed park.

The chair repeated that questions from the public were not to be taken. The public, which spilled out into the hallway and the lobby of the hotel, had plenty of questions anyway. Once those questions started flying, the ‘presenters’ simply gave up. They decided to cut and run, and the meeting was over, leaving a tsunami of hostility washing over the proceedings.

Holding a short meeting in an inadequate space is Bad Governance 101. There entire proceeding was an embarrassment – as one City councilor told me, it was as if Justice Roberstson had gone rogue, not understanding the process she had been brought into.

The mood of the crowd was ugly at times. When Justice Robertson said at one point that this review could be a three to five year process, for example, and that there would be a great deal more public consultation, I heard a person squeezed into the hallway near me say, “bullshit,” and another person followed up with “how much are they paying you.” At other times, it was hard to make out anything she or the other speakers said because of the boos that drowned out their remarks.

The crowd spills out into the hall. Photo credit: Shawn Cleary
The crowd spills out into the hall. Photo credit: Shawn Cleary (https://twitter.com/shawncleary)
The result was farcical, uncomfortable, and deeply troubling. Halifax Regional Municipality seems to be at war with itself in the lead-up to municipal elections.

Factions are jockeying. Rules and decorum are being thrown out the window. There is a distinct feeling that the public may finally be at a breaking point when it comes to over-development in Halifax, and the perceived all-too-cozy relationship between the developers and many city councilors.

In the case of the Blue Mountain / Birch Coves Lake Park Proposal, years of planning and public consultation seems to have been tossed away in a sudden turnaround. Whether this is a temporary aberration or a grotesque sellout isn’t yet clear, but if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck… well, you know what it is.

What is clear is that there are many, many people who are very, very angry about how things have come about. Some stomped out of the meeting in the first five minutes; others walked out during Justice Robertson’s remarks. Many left during the developer’s increasingly quavering presentation. They were shaking their heads in disbelief. I can’t blame them. This might have been the strangest meeting in Halifax Regional Municipality’s entire history.

Halifax’s rampant over-development has reached a new level of madness, and the citizenry is on the verge of revolt. In the old days, pitchforks and burning torches would have no doubt been seen.

Citizens can make comments on Justice Robertson’s report and the developer’s proposals on the Blue Mountain/Birch Cove Lakes Park plans until July 4th, 2016 at clerks@halifax.ca, or by fax or mail, although at this point, with a feeling that the entire deal is a fait accompli, one wonders if anyone in power will really listen."

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

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Lexicon posted:

Care to summarize that for those of us who know gently caress all about Halifax, and for whom that article communicates precisely nothing?

Only if you start doing it for west of here.

In nut shell, there is going to be a bloodbath in the municipal elections soon, everyone feels that the councilors are in the pocket of developers, and they aren't happy. That meeting was way shorter than most meetings, the public wasn't allowed any questions, and the location they chose was too small for the amount of people that normally go to something like that locally.

Here's another from the Chronically Horrid, which is currently being run by scabs so I didn't want to post:

"There was no shortage of opinions at a public meeting on plans to create a park in the Blue Mountain-Birch Cove Lakes area Monday.

Most of them weren’t favourable.

A crowd of about 200 people crammed into a meeting room at the Future Inn to voice their opinions but were told they weren’t allowed to speak or ask questions. At that point, things got a little noisier. Most were concerned about private development in and around the proposed parklands.

“This is just a money grab,” said Charles Lienaux, who rose early in the meeting to object to the procedure. He said all parties should have an opportunity to speak to the issue. After the meeting he vowed to organize a group to oppose the plan.

Lienaux said the report by facilitator Justice Heather Robertson was based upon the “wrong premise” that the owners of the private lands have the right to develop their lands or the city must pay them for what the lands would be worth if developed. In one case, that would mean a $6-million payout for 210 acres — more than double its assessed value. He said regional council should prohibit the proposed development.

He wasn’t the only one.

“We’ve waited 10 years for some kind of word and now there’s no sharing of views?” said James Boyer, environmental chairman of the Canadian Association of Retired Persons Nova Scotia chapter.

“Everything is being done behind closed doors.”

Coun. Reg Rankin said the municipality will consider all aspects of the proposal, including the views and questions of the public, who have until noon July 4 to send them to council.

“Ultimately it’s a question of what we can afford,” said Rankin. “But it was not intended, was never intended, to be (just) a wilderness park.”

Not everyone was opposed. One man who sat in the front row said the notion of a housing development there doesn’t bother him.

“I’ve been waiting 50 years to get someone to do something,” he said. “I like it 100 per cent.”

The municipality’s regional plan, approved in 2006, outlined the creation of a public wilderness park around the Birch Cove Lakes and the Blue Mountain area. In 2009 the province designated 4,300 acres of Crown land within and just west of the proposed park boundary as protected wilderness area. Combined with the 315-acre proposed regional park, it would create an area two-thirds the size of the Halifax peninsula.

But landholders who own more than 1,300 acres within the park area wish to develop their properties and have been trying to do so since 2007. The development pressures have affected the original vision of the proposed park. After the facilitator’s report, a revised proposal has emerged that would include residential development.

Robertson cautioned the crowd that this meeting was “a mere starting point” and it would still take 3-5 years and “significant public consultation” to complete the approval process.

While previously there were plans for a park surrounding the Birch Cove Lakes, a new proposal by municipal staff would protect headwaters of both the Birch Cove Lakes and Nine Mile River Watersheds.

This would include 22 lakes and countless wetlands that contribute to downstream lakes and rivers in areas of the municipality already developed.

At a time when bio-diversity is declining owing to impact from human beings, the large-tract approach preserves a variety of ecosystems native to the area. Significant lands on the interior of the proposed park have already been protected by the province as the Blue Mountain–Birch Cove Lakes wilderness area."

And another, from the CBC:
"A public presentation was held Monday night in Halifax on the facilitator's report on proposed boundaries for Blue Mountain-Birch Coves Lakes Regional Park.

Plans for the municipality to develop the park have been in the works since 2006. The city would like to create a regional park around what is now a provincial wilderness area. But much of the land adjacent to Blue Mountain-Birch Cove Lakes is privately owned. The Annapolis group is looking to build subdivisions in the area.

That has led to an independent facilitator being brought in to come up with a solution.

The solution presented Monday night was to allow homes to be built along one side of some lakes, as a way to provide access to a park.

"The mood in the room and spilling out into the hallways ... was one of great frustration and anger that this was being put forward instead of what people were hoping and expecting, which was an agreed upon price to acquire the necessary lands to protect those lakes," said Raymond Plourde, wilderness coordinator for the Ecology Action Centre.

Written feedback, not verbal

Plourde said the report never resulted in an agreement between municipal park staff and developers, therefore it was a failure and "so the report should be no basis for determining park boundaries."

Verbal comments from the public were not recorded as the municipality asked all feedback to be submitted in writing.

"A lot of people feeling upset essentially that they didn't have an opportunity to ask any questions or give comments. It felt very tightly scripted and tightly controlled and it was not a very respectful process for public engagement," said Plourde.

Plourde said allowing homes to be built around the park would ruin its ecological integrity.

Our 'Central Park'

"The area is simply too important just to let it be paved over with McMansions and McCondos sprawling out," said Plourde, "There are studies ... going all the way back to the early 1970s identifying the Birch Cove Lakes as important linchpin area, ecologically speaking."

Plourde likened the Blue Mountain-Birch Coves Lakes Regional Park to New York City's Central Park.

"This is our Central Park. This is our great park of our city and in particular our councillors are smart enough to recognize green infrastructure is worth investing in in the same way as built infrastructure," said Plourde.

Councillor wants decision soon

Blue Mountain-Birth Cove
Annapolis Group, one of the developers, said it was willing to sell Halifax 210 acres to help create the park, but at a price tag more than double what the HRM believes it is worth. (CBC)

Ahead of the meeting, Coun. Reg Rankin said he didn't want to spend another decade negotiating a deal.

"Some critics are saying 'buy the whole thing,' well when you're into it for $35 million — and that's not taking into account roads, public access for walk, bikes and transit," said Rankin.

Rankin insists the final decision rests with regional council and that public feedback will be taken into account. The councillor would like a decision to be made before the municipal election in October."

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

namaste faggots posted:

Can you summarize that for me? I don't give a gently caress about you people in the East but my schadenfreude is getting itchy

I've got a summary for you, Fook off. That east enough for ya?

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SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

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namaste faggots posted:

so it's inconsequential, much like the lives of all maritimers gotcha

Same with ethnic hans, or anyone else, for that matter.

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