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Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011


I think my efforts in trying to understand what he's saying may be useless. All useless.

speaking of which:

http://www.07th-expansion.net/img/top_img5.gif

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Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Suleman posted:

No need, I actually finished the whole thing.

Overall: Okay characters, very powerful story, weird structure, somewhat awful interface.
I liked it, but I'm finding it hard to compare to traditional VNs. I have to say, the writing has some goddamn balls, you don't usually see this poo poo in video games or anime.

When you say "whole thing" do you mean you even got the true ending where you get both off?

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I didn't even know Hate Plus was a thing. Wonder how'll she'll justify a limited interface this time? I assume it'll follow bringing both back, so *Mute is in for some mindbreaking revelations, which was one thing I sure loving felt the original release lacked. Can't say I care much about hearing how society on the ship broke down though, to me that was something that we just kind of had to accept,

e: it was mentioned she talks about her update progress on twitter so I thought I'd check that out. What a terrible idea that was :suicide:

Rody One Half fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Apr 1, 2013

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Cockblocking Jerk posted:

That is literally the only line I somewhat understood from that whole video.

Actual question, do I actually have to go through Muv Luv to be able to understand what the heck is happening in Muv Luv Alternative? Or is Alternative like an alternative (better) storyline? I am just wondering, because it looks like I am gonna finally get around to going through those games.

What you need to do specifically is play MuvLuv, and finish the routes for Sumika (neighbor girl) and Meiya (rich girl).

After that, your next step will become self-evident. Don't ask any other questions if you want the full effect.
e: nevermind, over expository answers ho

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

quote:

It’ll continue from your Analogue save file, so each ending will have its own route with equal focus.
Holy poo poo.

That sounds like it could be biting off more than she can chew.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Artificer posted:

I hope she isn't, because that sounds absolutely incredibly amazing if she can pull it off well. I have pretty high hopes since she did Analogue pretty well, and she did delay Hope Plus for a long time to presumably prep for this. Hell, Analogue is quite a step up from Digital, which was her first one, afaik, so it might be possible.

Fingers crossed!

Hm, at the same time I wonder if maybe it's wasteful effort in some cases. For example, I wonder how many people would really have bothered to do *Mute solo for anything other than completion purposes? She's kind of, ya know, insufferable.

As for Analogue vs Digital, I just played the latter for the first time yesterday, and found it rather interesting, if flawed. I will say that Digital's soundtrack blows Analogue's out of the water though.

Whatever the case, I'll probably end up getting it, even I'd rather see her move onto something else than provide information I'm not sure we really needed.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

unpronounceable posted:

I think part of what I enjoyed about the story is not knowing exactly what happened, so I'm in complete agreement with you there. That said, as much as I'd like to see something new, I do want to support her, especially as she has one of only a couple VNs on Steam.

For my part, I felt like there was no possible way she could have explained it that I'd swallow, so leaving it as an unknown was simply the best way to deal with it.


Fangz posted:

This is going to be super depressing with the Hyun-ae ending, isn't it?

Wasn't there also a "you are an awful person" ending where you could ditch them both?

I only got the *Hyun-ae and save them both endings personally.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

MuvLuv is not the best VN, but it is unmatched in schaudenfreude based entertainment. I remember watching my IRL friend do this part of the game. It really is amazing how very genuinely stressed out it makes people.

Rody One Half fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Apr 2, 2013

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Artificer posted:

"...witnessed Jinguugi-san eating out with another man..." Really. Really? REALLY?!

gently caress this gay Earth.

Edit: OH GOD THE SOUNDS.

Edit: FUUUUUCK. FUUUUUUUUCK.

Edit: Oh for gently caress's sake they brought in new music.

Upupupu

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Krinkle posted:

I just finished Forest. I kept thinking "okay it's going to make sense soon" but for the most part it stayed dream like and incomprehensible to the end. And I thought that it was needlessly porned up, though it felt like they tried to be all soft core and tasteful the dialog undid all that... I can't even say it was needless anymore because important plot points get brought up during them. The in between parts ranged from atmospheric and mysterious to apologetically fantastic. The art style was incredible. The music made the game vivid and the action scenes really intense. It had interesting doodle cameos of famous literary characters. Here's winny the pooh:


So while I didn't get it and I was bothered by all the needless(?) sex scenes, I finished forest. It was a thing I read and now I have to live with it. Oh I just remembered the whole reason I started was because the old Umineko thread said that it was similar in theme and I'm not sure I agree. I'm not sure about anything. I think it had a happy ending unless I misunderstood?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.350906-All-in-the-Golden-Afternoon-A-Review-of-Forest

This review and the subsequent posts are about as good a breakdown as you're going to get of Forest.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

As much as you may dislike the sex scenes in Forest, Hoshizora Meteor probably liked them even less, given that being forced to do them is purportedly why he left Liarsoft. Other than that I absolutely love how insane Forest is, I'll totally be reading Fire Girl for more Meteor.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Krinkle posted:

Oh that was great. I misread the ending. This completely changes the sad gross truth I thought the game revolved around into another wholly different sad gross truth. But that was not a very long discussion! There were only like four replies there about the plot. I'm still left with questions but they're not so formless and bewildered as before. Thank you for this.

Well a lot of it is purely subjective. Forest is a commentary on storytelling itself (which is part of the reason Umineko is accused of cribbing from it, though I'll not get into that), and I don't necessarily agree with every conclusion my friends there reached. For example I don't agree with some of their conclusions about Amomori, Kako, and other such things. but it's been too long since I've played to really get into the details of it. Draw what conclusions you like.

It's a cool game I think, despite the flaws. :krad: soundtrack and visuals.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Artificer posted:

I'm not that dumb. :v: Someone recommended My Girlfriend is the President at the beginning so I guess I'm going to roll with that.

Don't bother with any route but Putina, for hers is the best route :ussr:

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Fenrir posted:

Might want to warn your friend about the H-scenes (like, in real time when one is about to happen) so he can turn off the stream, especially if he's doing this on twitch. They do ban people for those.

Honestly I would even be concerned about the uniforms in Unlimited.

klapman's own streams went fine, uniforms be damned.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I'd rather not see a HF series be made made, since it's not like the other two got properly animated and you can't just separate FSN routes from one another like that.

Also I'd kind of like them to stop milking Fate for a good long while, but that will never happen.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Artificer posted:

Uh. Umineko? :v: That said I enjoyed Katawa Shoujo immensely and it was basically my first VN.

I await the day when someone tries to blind livestream Umineko and we all die of sleep deprivation.

Even putting that faint hope aside, Umineko would be an interesting introduction to the medium if the person you're suggesting it to like classical mystery novels.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

planetarial posted:

I actually haven't played Umineko at all and I'm completely blind to it aside from a few small things (it's a mystery series, seeing a few nonspoilery screenshots, the music is apparently really good, and there's two characters in it called Beatrice and Butler). I doubt I would have any interesting commentary to give though and I'm kind of shy about talking over during streams.
Trust me, if you saw klapman's stream, you know we don't necessarily need fantastic commentary.

kirbysuperstar posted:

/jp/, I'd imagine.

Impossible, it's available in English and isn't a Toohoo game (which you're still supposed to play in the PUREST OF ALL LANGUAGES). Once the majority of the internet can read it, it becomes poo poo you know.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

kirbysuperstar posted:

Oh, that's true. /vg/, maybe? Or are they still only caring about OELVNs of dubious quality.

Speaking of, if you haven't read weeaboo.nl's NaNoRenO writeup you really should, because of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16eWtX4r1us

I don't hang out on /vg/ much since I really don't play all that many VNs, but from what I've seen yeah it's alright. OELVNs, Katawa Shoujo, and MGQ all have their own threads.

Yes there are still KS threads. No I don't know what they're about.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Suleman posted:

Probably mostly new readers coming in and talking about how it wasn't the trainwreck they were expecting (or tossing around KS-inspired memes and macros). Katawa Shoujo's uncomfortable premise might have been a blessing in disguise, because the sheer shock value attracts new readers. I have no idea how many people got into VNs because of KS, but I'm thinking it's a pretty large number.

/vg/ posted:

Katawa Shoujo General #1297

Board Games Edition

These threads have been going on without stopping ever since KS dropped. They also made a KS themed Risk game.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Artificer posted:

What do they fight with? Are infantry little Shizunes or something?

I don't know the specifics and can't be assed to read, but here it is

http://pastebin.com/97aPKfHg


kirbysuperstar posted:

Wow. I thought Metal Gear Solid Risk was pretty out there, but uh. Yeah.

At least MGS is about geopolitics (or what HK's frayed psyche interprets as geopolitics anyway).

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I don't remember when I learned about VNs in the academic sense, but one day I heard about Tsukihime (I think this was 2008ish) and just decided to play it for whatever reason. So that's how I actually got into it.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I thought a crying game was called "Utsuge."

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Endorph posted:

The best character in F/SN is alive, don't see the problem with that.

:can:

Anyway yeah Krinkle I'm not sure you really followed FSN that well, but you are at least correct that UBW is the best route.

Heaven's Feel is just there for last 3 days (which are loving great EMIYA. SHIROU., and then the True End is fairly bad. The Normal End well executed but is so in your face about "this is not the proper ending lalalala" that it falls flat. Oh well, FSN's still pretty much the tops, besides maybe Steins;Gate.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Sylphid posted:

The reason I've heard for the main character gender switch was that Takeuchi thought a female protagonist wouldn't have as much appeal for the type of market Type-Moon was going for at the time.
That is indeed why.

Nasu has stated in interviews that part of the reason Fate belabors the "but you're a girl" point so much is because he was trying to separate her from the original male Saber in his own mind.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

kirbysuperstar posted:

Uh.



Why. This is a joke.. right? Please?

Not the most insane title I've ever seen!

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Zaito posted:

I'm reading Episode 1 of Umineko no Naku Koro Ni and... (huge spoilers)

Holy poo poo, did six characters just get mass-murdered? I guessed there were going to be a death pretty soon, but I didn't expect that at loving all. That's an entire one third of the cast. Most of them reasonably well-developed characters, too..

Very interested to see where it's going to go from here.


Please blog the crap out of all your reactions. This will be magical :allears:

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Oh hey, Hate Plus got an actual release date!
http://hateplus.com/

On August 19th, the depression begins!

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

DerLeo posted:

I'm overjoyed that I can now experience the long-awaited AI Harem feature.

Dr Pepper posted:

I just hope it has hours of Hyun-ae and Mute bickering. :allears:

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Whining about it is pointless since Commie is the one actually showing progress whereas coke loving vanished. And yes he did make things up, as people have demonstrated on multiple occasions.

One way or another, Commie is what we are getting, so that's what we'll have to live with.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Obisidian makes the best games and always signs the worst possible contracts that inevitably ruins them.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

KT only has one ending though: complete insanity.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Translation does not involve just making poo poo up.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Irukandji Syndrome posted:

And speaking of appearances, please tell me there's a half-reasonable explanation for the bare tits-and-thong suits I saw in the opening cinematic :doh:
Have you ever seen Starship Troopers?

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Krinkle posted:

That was rider? I assumed rider's master was sleepraping the protagonist I forgot everyone's names and my spacebaris broken.

It was Rider yes. Implied in FSN, confirmed in HA.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

This is one of those things I can't even take seriously anymore, goofy fanart has so completely defanged it for me.

Still great to watch the fireworks though :allears:

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Yes aside of whichever one of the those two you don't side with, you just pick from a list at a certain point.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

The good news is that the entire last third of MLA isn't much better, but is indeed better than that scene.

Really, after the two bits that we all get excited for when new players pick it up pass by and once you've had your first proper battle with the BETA, MLA just becomes boring at best.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Shark Tower posted:

Harsh, considering the second half gives us THE BEST STORM VANGUARD NUMBER ONE IN ALL MUVLUV HISTORY. No I don't mean Takeru.

For the record I'm talking about everything post Sadogashima. After that the game has kind of exhausted all of its tricks and just become repetitive, save for the brief moment of interest when you find out what the BETA are.

This is the danger of this thread: every time someone plays the game, yes we get to laugh at them freaking out at CHOMP, but then we also have to have the tentacle sex/ending discussion again. It's a cycle.

Rody One Half fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Jul 17, 2013

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Barent posted:

I dunno dude I think you're crazy, I really like the next parts as well. But as someone else said, different strokes I guess.
No, this is crazy:

Nephilm posted:

LoGH is in that spot where it's too long, too dated, and not good enough to justify the time investment, for me to recommend it to people. Muv Luv is much more dense in content and intelligent in delivery despite its flaws.

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Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011




Hate Plus is August 19th and thanks to the Analogue thread in LP, I can't goddamn wait.

Analogue: A Hate Story is 3.39 on Steam right now, for those that haven't played it (you should). The only things I've bothered to get this sail are gift copies of it actually.

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