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Caros posted:JRod is one of the forms most beloved Libertarian posters, along with other alumni such as Lolita-Sama and that other guy I can't remember. He 'terrorized' the forums several times over the last few years with page long diatribes and a wonderful habit of replying to each and every post in order, despite being up to a dozen pages behind. Don't be like him. Conversely, don't poo poo up the thread and be assholes if libertarians come in to discuss their viewpoints. Try not to anyways. That's not true, he skips everything he doesn't have a "decent" argument against.
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Oh boy Jrodefeld is back, is he still replying to posts one at a time but conspicuously neglecting to include posts he has no counterargument too in his lineup, because that's my favorite thing about Jrodefeld.
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Oct 2, 2014 06:07
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Literally The Worst posted:Plastics isnt as fun as Jrode I dunno I'm pretty amused about "X or Death isn't coercion towards X because you can freely choose to die, but also taxes are still theft even though you are presumably equally free to choose the consequences of not paying taxes."
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Aug 10, 2015 02:57
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Who What Now posted:Plastics, how can you say that taxation is theft when you have already admitted that you willingly choose to pay your taxes. By your own definitions it is literally impossible for taxation to be theft. This is why plastics is my second favorite libertarian this thread has ever gotten. (Its hard to beat jrod, because of the good old "go through the thread replying to every post, conspicuously leaving out the ones he has no argument against.)
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Aug 11, 2015 04:04
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I hold to the principle that human extinction is bad, and will gladly pay the 'price' of not getting to live in libertopia for this principle.
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Aug 12, 2015 03:11
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Plastics, I'm genuinely trying to understand, what's the difference between a slave not killing themself to avoid slavery, and you not killing yourself to avoid paying taxes?
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Aug 12, 2015 23:35
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What is "I do not consent to this joinder" even supposed to MEAN?
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Nov 8, 2015 10:55
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No I get that's what it ACTUALLY means, but what do they THINK they're saying?
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Nov 8, 2015 12:04
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Sure there's been a lot of great jrodefeld moments in recent times, but none of them will ever beat how Jrodefeld Classic (tm) would reply to every post in a thread one by one but skip over the ones that had solid arguments, removing all pretense that he was remotelt arguing in good faith. Also generally complaining about the one liners during this "just pretending attempts at legitimate debate don't exist."
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Jan 15, 2016 13:24
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paragon1 posted:I agree, lets defund the military. The character in question also recommending constitutionally prohibiting conscription so I don't think he would complain. Its difficult to tell what exactly Heinlein agrees with in that book, though in some ways it can be viewed as a tragedy about the impossibility of libertarianism? In the end the people creating the new government don't listen to him and the moon pretty much becomes a standard state, which is viewed as a shame, but also not actually particularly demonstrably bad. (A Heinlein page on the wiki probably isn't actually a particularly bad idea, though I think he was simultaneously much more principled but more realistic than most libertarians.)
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May 23, 2016 02:44
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The end of an era.
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May 26, 2016 21:58
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I'm afraid you're all objectively wrong about the best Jrod moment. Back when he first showed up and was replying to each and every post one at a time... only to transparently skip anything with a good argument as if people wouldn't NOTICE... that was Jrodefeld at his best. Also, when he hosed a watermelon.
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May 27, 2016 12:37
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Literally The Worst posted:jrode memorial thread: rip in piss, melonfucker I like it, but we should probably still work in "libertarian mock thread."
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May 28, 2016 00:40
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"Self-made" men are OFTEN hard workers, but it's not a requirement to be called that. Somebody who spotted an opprotunity no one else did and lazily took advantage of it would generally also be called self-made.
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May 30, 2016 04:19
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's also really hard to be the minority viewpoint in a thread if you're really badly outnumbered. You only have so much time to respond to people, the people you don't respond to think you're deliberately ignoring them, etc. There's been previous offers for one-on-one debate from tread regulars in the past, if that's a concern I bet someone would step up to the plate again.
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Jun 3, 2016 20:25
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Goon Danton posted:Basically someone got sick of jrod ignoring all their questions and just asked him if he'd ever hosed a watermelon. Jrod flipped out in an entertaining way, but notably did not actually deny the accusation at any point in his rant. Since then it has become something of a meme. If it was also that he continued to get super angry about getting asked about whether he'd hosed a watermelon without actually denying for around I think a year, finally eventually going "no I have not hosed a watermelon." If it had only been that first time it wouldn't have had the same staying power.
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Jun 5, 2016 02:41
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CommieGIR posted:Please disprove its relevance. The show is satire, but deals with real problems and is actually considered far more news than, say, CNN or Fox even. A Modest Proposal was satire which means there was no poverty in Ireland at the time. That's how it works!
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Jun 8, 2016 04:12
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There's really no way to NOT arrive at voluntary slavery if you're part of the "human rights are actually just property rights because humans own themselves" branch of libertarianism. Owning yourself implies the ability to sell yourself, NOT being allowed to sell yourself is actually a RESTRICTION of property rights.
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Mar 17, 2017 22:50
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No he's basically right originally that was what libertarian referred to before the right wing coopted it.
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Mar 24, 2017 06:43
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ToxicSlurpee posted:You voluntarily pay to live on that entity's land. Alternatively they fantasize about being that entity. That don't want to abolish the state; they want to be the state. Well hey you could also pay out enough protection money that the bandits will keep any other bandits out of the territory just to keep anyone else from loving up their sure thing and hey does this sound a lot like literal feudalism because there's a reason people remark that ancapistan comes out to literal feudalism.
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Jul 4, 2017 01:28
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sweart gliwere posted:Right, but that's for abortion. I was curious about NAP adherents' views on conception as an act of aggression. The whole NAP thing basically relies on ignoring any aggression that isn't a gun to your head (unless its related to taxes) so they really wouldn't figure it like that anyway.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:18
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White Coke posted:Pretty much, also most monarchies didn't try to improve their lands, they just tried to extract more wealth. And they went into lots of debt too, like you wouldn't believe. Philip II of Spain declared bankruptcy four times during his reign. Running a massive deficit was standard operating procedure for most of European history. Yeah kinda astonishing when they declare literal tenant/landlord relationships were Ownership And Not Rentiership.
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Aug 16, 2017 03:14
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something something anarchbros.
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Sep 11, 2017 02:34
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The fascists actively privatized the majority of their state owned industry, they SAID they were a third way separate from socialism and free market economies, but they were lying, and the few that WEREN'T lying were murdered by their own organizations.
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Sep 18, 2017 21:53
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Mr Interweb posted:Okay, giving this even an iota of legitimacy, how is such a thing even supposed to work? I mean it's literally 'if socialists want to help the poor, why aren't they libertarians.'
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Dec 17, 2017 01:55
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P-Mack posted:Example: Scrooge McDuck owns 10 McDonald's franchises, 9 of which are profitable but the tenth barely breaks even. If the wage goes up, he will pay the workers at the first 9 the higher wage, but close down the tenth. In that case the franchise is basically already doomed because any other economic shock is going to hit it just the same.
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Jan 7, 2018 23:38
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Social democrats in favor of a strong welfare state almost all don't carry water for racist eugenicists, so probabalisticaly no you're not.
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Jan 21, 2018 14:03
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Why do you hate free speech realtalk.
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May 24, 2018 06:14
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Why do you hate free speech realtalk.
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May 24, 2018 06:29
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The first amendment, while not explicitly mentioning it, has been held to protect Freedom of Association. Part of freedom of association is freedom of DISASSOCIATION, unilateral disassociation even. Legally you can't be compelled to associate with anyone. So not only is it not a first amendment violation to not hand Ann Coulter a microphone, even in the event that they had previously invited her, DISinviting her at any time is ITSELF protected by the first amendment. If a bunch of students use their Freedom of Speech to complain about a university planning to host Ann Coulter, and in response that university uses Freedom of Association to instead, not host Ann Coulter, the only one attacking anyone's rights is YOU, because you want to make them host her anyway. RealTalk posted:There is a clear bifurcation on the Left between classical Marxists and those who focus on identity politics. The Frankfurt School demarcates this bifurcation. Nah.
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May 24, 2018 06:50
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RealTalk posted:However, if the school receives government grants which the overwhelming percent of colleges do, then the situation changes considerably. Every person in the country is forced to pay taxes. So colleges that receive government grants are akin to public property. RealTalk posted:It's a little ironic that you use these arguments against me. If you truly believe that the first amendment implies both freedom of association and disassociation, then you logically have to oppose all anti-discrimination laws. After all, property owners have the right to choose who they want to associate with and who they want to disassociate with. The property owner can still freely disassociate by now running that business anymore (if it's not a business, then they are in fact legally allowed to not invite any black people into their house.)
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May 24, 2018 09:26
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The first amendment also doesn't say anything about microphones, speaker systems to plug those microphones into or campus security.
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May 24, 2018 09:30
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RealTalk posted:You're response amounts to "well those people are bad people". They may well be bad people, but that's not the point. YOU brought up the assertion that the left was calling people racists because they didn't like what they say. Demonstrating that they are in fact racists implies that perhaps the reason they're getting called racist is because of the racism they're constantly espousing.
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May 24, 2018 12:33
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Jrodefeld Twitter bot I'm pretty sure. As for the jrodefeld watermelon connection in GENERAL... Someone asked him if he hosed watermelons once and instead of saying 'no what the gently caress is wrong with you which would have been the end of it, he made the bad move of ignoring it, and all future times he received that question, (as a side note, he used to go through the thread replying to EVERY SINGLE POST one at a time... except the ones which had sufficiently good arguments so which he just skipped, which made ignoring the watermelon question particularly noteworthy) which turned it into this whole THING even when he FINALLY went 'no, I do not and have not ever hosed a watermelon.'
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May 27, 2018 14:26
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RealTalk posted:I've never heard a progressive say "While I think this conservative or libertarian has a blind spot on the issue of race, their other ideas are interesting and worth discussing. That's cause they usually aren't.
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May 28, 2018 02:24
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RealTalk posted:Anthony Weiner is a startling reminder that if you scratch a Democrat you find a pedophile. Basically no one (i'm sure there's been one or two, but not any relevant numbers) has every argued for pedophilia AS PART of their being a democrat. The same is very much not true for libertarianism, where it it happens so often that it's a relatively widespread meme than libertarians are associated with "but what if the child consents." It arguably might be disingenuous to use THIS guy to implicate libertarianism (it does kinda seem that his pedophilia and libertarian 'merely' stem from the same 'is a loving psychopath' place as opposed to a more direct connection between the two) but it is absolutely isn't EQUALLY disingenuous.
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Jun 2, 2018 08:32
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but what if the watermelon consents
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Ratoslov posted:So is Jrod typical of libertarians in his newfound love of Jordy Pete? Or is this just a case of classic crackpot comorbidity? A LOT of people have noticed a Libertarian -> Alt-right tendency, so while he isn't necessarily typical of those who are STILL libertarian, it's absolutely typical of libertarians to become the sort of person who loves Misogynist Kermit.
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Jun 4, 2018 00:12
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The military is at least nominally 'serving' the people in question and historically joins in on revolts not infrequently. The police on the other hand has an entirely antagonistic relationship basically design and I'm not sure has ever supported any sort of popular revolt, thinking anyone should waste effort on subverting them mostly just makes you look like an idiot.
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Now let's math this out. 5 million watermelons in a day, yeah that's impossible, but in a year that's 13699 a day. 857 an hour with 8 hours sleep. As long as you don't assume a need for, ahem, completion with each watermelon, a conveyer belt bringing the watermelons to the hosed could almost certainly provide the necessary pace of 15 watermelons a minute.
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