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Vondizimo posted:30k is doomed if GW prime have taken an interest. That'll teach FW for being a success. I want to be wrong. Yeeeeah I hate to say it but I think I agree.
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It's very possible that GW is merely testing the waters with MkIV Tactical Squad and Master of the Chapter kits, with no intention of putting out new rules or supplanting FW in the near future. But those sprues look real to me. Seriously put, the best thing for GW to do would be release 30k plastics and sell FW in stores without actually touching the 30k books at all. Which means it probably won't happen.
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DrPop posted:Which books should I start with to learn about Horus Heresy's rules? Between the seven different books I can find on Forge World's site (reasonably priced at a billion brit bucks each), I'm kinda confused where to jump off at. Get the two red books--50 GBP for the pair. Unless you want to do Mechanicum or Knight House or Imperial Army/Militia/Solar Auxilia, in which case it gets a little more complicated. Most of the rules are just 40k, although it differs from 7E in a few subtle but significant ways.
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Jul 27, 2015 14:14
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Cataphract posted:I was just about to post those exact words They were shown off earlier this year (HH Weekender maybe?) and they showed Blood Angels and Dark Angels pretty recently. Their plan is to have the basic upgrade kits for all Legions except Vlka Fenryka and 1k Sons out ASAP, and BA/DA will bring them there. White Scars, Blood Angels, and Dark Angels Legion traits will be in the back of the next book but without characters or special units IIRC.
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Jul 31, 2015 18:50
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Vondizimo posted:Yeah, the current set can make five sniper scouts with no modification. The only issue is one body is missing a camo cloak, but the cloaks from Anvil Industry fit perfectly. Maybe old stock? I can't even remember if my sniper kit came with a missile launcher. The fifth guy's cloak is rolled up and on his back.
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Aug 3, 2015 15:29
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Scoutchat! Posted these a while ago but here they are again:  
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Aug 3, 2015 21:59
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Ignite Memories posted:Unfortunately, due to the existence of challenges this is basically the situation again. Power Fists specifically seem kind of rad in 30k though, since they're only 15 points, AP2/3 is kind of hard to come by, and Sergeants can take Artificer Armor. My tactical/breacher squad sergeant gets one, at the very least.
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Aug 4, 2015 04:29
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BuffaloChicken posted:These will never stop making me happy. Let's get that game in where they ally with my Catachan to hunt Tyranids in the jungle (I'm free this weekend, for once, and might be having other ham friends over... interested?). Very interested but I'm working.  A lot. Forever. Mid-to-late September, maybe?
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Aug 4, 2015 13:41
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Email them about the missing bundles. Some of them are really weird, like the Raven Guard upgrade bundle is still present but not on the bundles page, but Sons of Horus is just gone. I wouldn't be shocked if the other Legion upgrade bundles, if nothing else, came back with the 30k plastics. Nevertheless, this is disappointing.
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Aug 12, 2015 13:28
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I emailed them about Legion upgrade bundles and got a response almost immediately. They appreciate the feedback and they're going to check with the sales team "to see if it was a mistake," and if it was, it'll be "fixed" within the next couple of days. Now is absolutely the right time to make noise, since it's the easiest time for them to reverse their position without losing face. Everybody who cares should politely email them about whatever bundles they genuinely intended to buy.
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Aug 12, 2015 16:44
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Zark the Damned posted:Sadly it also suffers from the usual FW problem of 'not understanding how CCWs work on walkers'. It says "note that." It's plainly, RAW and RAI, a reminder, not an additional penalty. Any other reading necessarily ignores those two words. (For this model, anyway; I don't remember the wording on the Ork ones.)
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Oct 17, 2015 17:55
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Zark the Damned posted:Sorry, but no. See the line 'Note: for each siege claw replaced, the model loses one attack'. The each is important. Re: "each"-- You're right! I missed that. I still think that RAW, dropping the first arm only drops a total of one attack. I think the phrase "note that" implies a reminder where "note:" would be more appropriately read to mean a new rule. Either way, they're plainly, RAW, adding a penalty to dropping the second weapon that I had missed before. Certainly, FW is bad about articulating clear rules. Although that looks like a picture of a print-out--maybe they can tweak the wording before it gets printed. Sulecrist fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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Oct 17, 2015 20:49
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KuangMkV posted:I picked up Betrayal at Calth with the intention of using the minis as the start of an Alpha Legion army but I'm at a bit of a loss on how to assemble them as such. Does anyone have some thoughts on how to arm/points cost everything? Hi Kuang! There's a 30k thread at: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3750247&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 But for now, an absolute minimum of 18 of your 30 tactical marines can be kitted out with just boltguns.
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TheChirurgeon posted:So, two things: Did you get your Fire Raptor from the communists? Mine went together pretty nicely and FW was happy to replace the components that snapped/chipped during shipping.
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Jan 11, 2016 03:59
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Ghost Hand posted:For those that are still interested - we are starting The Independent Characters up again in March. I'm organizing the recording schedule right now with guests and topics. I'm committed now to doing at least one year. Jesus Christ I miss you guys so much. I haven't listened to the final episode because I didn't want it to be over (listened to the Not An Episode though!). You coming back is going to be so good for my hobby / bad for my wallet. I'm putting in a 1-Carl (free-shipping-tier) FW order today in celebration.
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Jan 16, 2016 16:56
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Endman posted:I painted this guardsman and he came out super grumpy. Dude just isn't having a good time in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium. Super good looking, love it. Now do another 79 just like it.
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Jan 25, 2016 14:48
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Mango Polo posted:It's the natural evolution of formations. It's been pretty typical in WMH for years. I was going to say that should prove that it's just GW loving up a theoretically decent concept, although free points in theme forces are one of the most unbalanced things in WMH, too, so maybe it's just a terrible idea generally.
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Feb 18, 2016 11:18
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Lungboy posted:I'd totally lost interest in 40K due to the insane release schedule. Stealer Cults are the only thing that could bring me back. I hope they aren't just in that boxed set though, they need a proper Harlequin release with a small dex. They also need a Patriarch, I don't get why they have been retconned out of existence. Aren't Patriarchs just Broodlords that haven't gotten skinny yet? (Like, aren't they literally the exact same thing?)
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Feb 20, 2016 12:46
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Phyresis posted:It is and it isn't because one could say that this is typical GW, years behind the curve - trying out open beta rules releases just when privateer press realized that it is a bad idea and isn't doing them for mk 3 I think the comparable PP thing would be infernal rulings in their own FAQ forum. I'm happy to criticize GW when they really gently caress the dog on something but I don't think this is that something.
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May 12, 2016 13:29
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sassassin posted:You can play a 2000 point game of KoW with 6 guys and some unit filler as long as the base sizes are right. I thought KoW2 required footprints to contain half the "full" number of models plus one? I remember being annoyed when considering boring 30mm holes for my WMH models into big squares, then learning it would violate the letter of KoW2's rules. I'm sure people would let us use fewer, but then we're back to the lazy reliance on social engineering poo poo that makes GW games bad.
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May 18, 2016 21:56
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I wonder if that truck's AV will be low enough to be legal in Kill Team. If so, I might have to make a Team for these fuckers. I've loved cults ever since that Simon Spurrier short story about primacii and changeling-type relationships with beguiled host families and poo poo.
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Sep 24, 2016 14:03
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xtothez posted:If not it looks like cults can use Chimeras and possibly Sentinels, which can work for killteam. Nah, I want that truck! If its AV is too high I'll probably make a Skitarii team instead.
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Sep 24, 2016 14:31
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Irate Tree posted:I have never understood the idea that anything Warhammer should be PG, when you have literal embodiments of raw, base emotion - you know, the poo poo people don't like admitting to feeling (especially in a culture that promotes guilt of any errant emotion) - butchering, rotting, corrupting and crab loving fascist, dogmatic, racist xenophobes on a daily basis in a dying galaxy, full of mad, talking mushrooms and antediluvian horrors from beyond the void. If some one made a morning cartoon out of that, it'd have to be Captain Planet levels of cringe for it to be even remotely PG. Kids in the US are told about war, death, and pain (and racism, and diseases, etc) before they're told about sex. That's basically it. I'm not saying it's right, but it'd take a gigantic amount of time and effort to change that and I for one neither want nor expect GE to lead that particular charge.
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Oct 20, 2016 01:38
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MasterSlowPoke posted:It's a game targeted for 11-15 year olds. Yeah I think I was 11-12 when I bought my Eldar (and 9-10 when I was first introduced to WHFB and got the Bretonnian half of that amazing 5th Edition starter set). My nephew just turned 9, and at some point this year I'd like to show him the hobby without having to explain orgy-powered fentanyl chariots to his mother.
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Oct 20, 2016 12:49
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Hamshot posted:If that's true that's stupid. Like, Land speeder and Land raider being named after some tech priest named Land levels of stupid. So probably true. The Arkham Land thing makes perfect sense in the context of the 40k universe, because it's the only possible way to be named so reasonably. If it weren't named after a guy named Land it'd be called the Wrathmonger or Ironstorm or Hellfucker or whatever.
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Oct 21, 2016 03:23
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Clawtopsy posted:it's best not to put in more thought than GW did Given the time and place that 40k's earliest fluff was laid down, and the disproportionate number of young men who helped develop it, I think it's exceptionally likely that the Dark Angels were from the beginning a metaphor for being queer and closeted, even if not everyone in the studio made the connection.
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Oct 26, 2016 13:10
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TheChirurgeon posted:Flyers were fine, but don't work well with the scale of 40k; Allies as implemented are pretty bad--they're wildly uneven and make faction distinctions less meaningful, which is bad. 6th introduced a bunch of new random nonsense like rolling for warlord traits and random psychic powers, and removed cover abstraction. The 7th edition changes to vehicle damage helped a great deal, but 7th introduced a ton of other issues like summoning and re-adding the psychic phase to the game. I think gunship-style flyers are fine, even with zooming rules. Valkyrie, Stormraven, that new Deathwatch thing are all fine. I agree about jets, but I wouldn't mind there being a Stronghold Assault (or whatever it's called now) equivalent to bolt on jets in big games. Death From The Skies, sort of.
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^^^^^^^ I've been playing since 3rd, and 3rd is my least favorite of the editions I've played. I genuinely like the guts of 7E. 90% of the core rulebook, at least up through page 179, are fine with me, and I think most of the changes from 3rd are improvements. Like many people I want (1) a significant to full rules rewrite for 40k, (2) FW to continue modifying the 6E rules in their own direction rather than being anchored to 40k, and (3) 40k fluff to still move forward but slow the gently caress down. I'm okay with the Imperium being dragged inevitably closer to extinction, but what I don't want to see is six IRL months of total galactic destruction followed by 8E opening with the Emperor waking up and starting another Great Crusade led by Custodes. Truescale Space Marine models that made the Custodes sculpts more reasonable by comparison--that might actually be cool, but I don't really want to think about the impact it'd have on us as hobbyists. Sulecrist fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jan 8, 2017 |
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Hamshot posted:The only experience I can draw on is as an assault army with no options to assault out of deep strike and right now it's inevitable that I'll need to weather at least two, usually three turns of shooting. It's bringing a knife to a gun fight. Being assaulted by something that I never had the opportunity to see, much less do something about, is a terrible experience and I am really happy that assaulting from reserves is gone. Assault got nerfed too hard over the past few years, but a lot of the changes have made the core game less frustrating.
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Proletariat Beowulf posted:While I understand this, that feeling is exactly what sneaky or surprise armies are supposed to elicit, and if they pay a fair (high) price to do it, it ought to work that way. Many armies have subfactions or whole military doctrines dedicated entirely to this but simply cannot manifest it accurately on the tabletop because apparently dropping in and waiting politely to be shot to poo poo, then getting shot to poo poo again from Overwatch, then perhaps attacking last for having charged into cover, isn't as frustrating, I guess? Deployment becomes the first step in protecting yourself from pincer attacks and forces players to choose either aggression or defense. Getting shot 4 times before your monster or your group of choppy dudes get to do anything related to their job description is pretty loving lame. To date in 6/7th Ed., I've never really felt intimidated from even the most successful deepstrikes or outflanking maneuvers, because I know I have an entire free turn to reposition, run, or just blast the poor sods to piles of blood and viscera. I play an assault army (in 30k). I wouldn't mind Lictors or Genestealers or Vanguard Veterans being able to assault from reserves if they paid through the nose for that ability and there were a meaningful restriction on volume. I absolutely do not want charging from reserves to ever be the default again. It's bad enough in Warmachine, where outflanking units are (were?) rare, heavily overpriced, and pillow-fisted, and where strong board control elements make keeping things safe an actual possibility. When that ability to protect models disappears, WMH also happens to become an unnecessarily frustrating experience.
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I also like regular Kill Team.TKIY posted:Speaking of kill team what's a decent and not ridiculous kill team to make out of the Space Wolves start collecting box? Here's what I'm working on: 7x Grey Hunters -145 -Wolf Guard Pack Leader -6x extra close combat weapons -power axe -flamer -melta bombs Lone Wolf -55 -Wolf Claw, Storm Shield (counts-as) I'm not actually sure there's a flamer in the Start Collecting box, but you get the idea.
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Ghost Hand posted:Agreed. I guess it's just an aesthetic choice but I saw this model and it blew my mind. To say it's a "poo poo model" I feel is really just tainted with hate for GW. I cannot wait to see what people do with this. Just FYI, I think you'd have more fun in the 30k thread. The podcasts make it sound like you're working on your Black Legion stuff mostly but I still think you'd get a lot more joy reading that and not just this. Ignore the last couple pages though. Sulecrist fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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Endman posted:My biggest gripe with Magnus is his size. He should have been roughly twice as high as a Rubric marine imho. That's how big the Primarch models are already, and even pre-ascension, Magnus was supposed to be unusually big. I don't usually enjoy painting big models and I wish there were fewer of them (or at least that GW would spend less bandwidth on them), but I'm okay with things like Magnus and Imperial Knights and Valkyries and Stompas being the sizes they are. I do really dislike when the big models are so sprawling and fragile that making one essentially requires its own shelf/case.
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Endman posted:Ahh, yeah. I forgot he was supposed to be bigger than the other Primarchs. Still, there's big and then there's that big. He might be bigger than I realize. Even though I've seen those display-case photos with other models for scale, I have a hard time visualizing stuff with big protruding poo poo like those horns and wings.
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