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My son and I are starting to really get into X-Wing. It's a good game! Right now we own the core set plus the Imperial & Rebel Aces expansions. We play each other most days. After playing about 5 100 point games with that set, I feel like our Empire set (two TIE, two TIE Interceptors) is a hell of a lot weaker than the Rebel group of X wing, A wing, and B wing. In every 100 point game we've played, it's been the rebels who win. Doesn't matter if it's him or me who controls the Rebel group; the Rebels always win. When we limit the game to 50 or 75 points, it's a lot more even. I feel like we're missing something when it comes to building or playing the Empire set. Maybe there's a mechanic or synergy I'm missing? Or is this group actually kind of crappy? I realize it may be hard to tell without me saying exactly who was flying what for both sides. Is there a ship I could buy to round out the Empire side, perhaps?
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Found out tonight I'm loving terrible at arc dodging. But that's okay. 
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Aug 29, 2015 05:29
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Picked up a firespray today. Played a firespray + tie phantom list. It was a hell of a lot of fun. Used the big guy to block and tank while Echo maneuvered the flanks. It worked very well.
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Aug 30, 2015 23:47
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Haha the entire staff of my local store is in line. Guess that means they aren't getting any in lol
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Sep 4, 2015 05:50
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Got to play a bit with the new core sets today. The new movement options on the T70 really make a difference. This thing is really fun to fly. S-loops on the TIE fighters is nice too.
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Sep 7, 2015 06:44
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I'm looking to build out an Imperial list from my existing stock. Nothing too serious; I'm not trying to play tournaments or anything. Here's what I have for Imperials: 2 Core set TIE fighters 2 (new) Core set TIE/FO fighters 2 Imperial Aces TIE Interceptors (so no Soontir) 1 TIE Phantom 1 Firespray I also own, for the Rebels Rebel Aces set 1 K-Wing Probably my favorite list so far has been a decked out Firespray + Phantom + something else (usually a TIE). Something like so: Firespray (the guy that lets you re-roll a secondary weapon die) + Heavy Laser Cannon + Gunner (or Recon Specialist) Phantom (Echo) + Tactician + Fire Control System + Adv Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts (or PTL) TIE Fighter (which one depends on points left over) I've played a handful of games with variations of that list. It's done pretty well at the local FLGS. I'm going by memory--don't have the cards in front of me--so pardon me if there are any big mistakes. Can you guys think of anything good to vary in this list? Should I consider replacing the Firespray or the Phantom with more TIEs? I've been considering taking a small squad of 2-4 basic TIEs and/or TIE/FOs + one decked out ship. I practiced a bit with a Firespray + 2 TIE + 2 TIE/FO tonight and it seemed fun, but fragile. Alternately, should I drop some of the upgrades (and perhaps the Firespray to just the basic Bounty Hunter) and try to squeeze in another ship that way?
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Sep 8, 2015 07:23
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Those are hideous EXCEPT I kinda like the general idea of the one on the bottom left. The execution is terrible but the basic design is kinda cool.
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Sep 8, 2015 23:34
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X-Wing is a game where it's really easy to spend more money. A new ship is easily within "impulse buy" range for most of its market. Do you need that ship? Nah, you can have fun with just the core set! But that ship...it looks neat! That guy over there has three! Holy poo poo is that the Millenium Falcon?
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Sep 9, 2015 07:32
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Lochness_Hamster posted:So single T-70 and Tie/FO ships are coming out for WaveVII Haha you can literally shoot astromechs off of Xwings now. That's hilarious.
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Sep 10, 2015 22:25
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Antillese posted:I'm struggling with an imperial Firespray list. I'm thinking of supporting it with an Interceptor and two blocking TIEs but am unsure of how to load out the interceptor and the Firespray itself. What is the second mod that people usually run on a Royal Guard interceptor? Auto thrusters and...? I had pretty good luck with the cheapest firespray + bombs and then a squad of an interceptor + 2 Academy Pilots. I'm not that good, though.
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Sep 12, 2015 05:01
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I've flown my K-Wing several times, and I've come to realize I don't like it much. I've had more luck using it as a bomber than as a turret, but bombers are pretty situational. I think I'd rather use a TIE Punisher or Firespray and fly an empire list if I wanted to bomb things. Anyone have any recommended K-Wing loadouts?
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Sep 12, 2015 20:37
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I think I really like bombs and mines. I've had very good luck with Proximity Mines recently, so I decided to build a bomber Firespray with a miniswarm. https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v3!s!40:22,28,139,-1:1:1:U.126;184:-1:-1:-1:;184:-1:-1:-1:;10::-1:-1:;10::-1:-1: I've won two of my last three games with this list, and the one that I lost was because the other guy had a Phantom I just couldn't catch. I think it would be better with 3x Academy Pilots and Howlrunner, but I don't actually have the standalone TIE fighter set.
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Sep 14, 2015 02:46
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Has anyone considered using the HWK-290 (rebel) as a focus factory for a Poe T-70/Jake A-Wing list? I feel like you could get some absolutely ridiculous maneuvering out of something like this: Kyle Katarn (21) Blaster Turret (4) Recon Specialist (3) Moldy Crow (3) Jake Farrell (24) Push the Limit (3) Proton Rockets (3) Stealth Device (3) Poe Dameron (31) Push the Limit (3) BB-8 (2) Total: 100 The list is quite squishy though. Not many evade dice (except Jake).
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Sep 20, 2015 15:44
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Could someone confirm something about Proximity Mines for me? My understanding is that if you drop one right on top of a group of ships, the mine still only affects one of them. And the person who dropped the mine gets to pick which ship is affected. That sound right?
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Sep 21, 2015 17:16
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Lunatic Pathos posted:
Low PS is actually good for "Action" ordnance like Proxy mines. If you can sweep past a high PS enemy, you can drop your bombs right in front of them or directly on top.
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Sep 23, 2015 14:47
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Poopy Palpy posted:You've seen the FFG sales chart that goes vertical when they started X-Wing, right? I haven't, but I imagine it looks like a barely tilted L-shape, right?
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Sep 23, 2015 19:53
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Why are you adding PS together?
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Sep 24, 2015 03:42
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Ran a list today that was Echo (TIE Phantom + Recon Specialist + Fire Control System + Advaced Cloaking Device) Deathrain (TIE Punisher + Ion Bomb + Proxy Mine + Plasma Torpedos + Extra Munitions) 2x Academy Pilots (TIE Fighters x2) I managed to drop an Ion Bomb today with Deathrain that hit seven ships on the second turn. That included both of my TIEs and Deathrain himself, but it was okay. The enemy had just K-turned his four-ship formation, but I blocked it with a pair of TIE fighters. They jumbled up and didn't face the right way. Deathrain tossed the bomb in front of himself before moving. He didn't make it out of the blast radius, and I lost one of the TIEs due to concentrated fire, but that was okay. My other TIE and Deathrain were behind them. My opponent never really recovered from it. He tried to fake me out by running white maneuvers instead of clearing his stress, but I didn't fall for it. He didn't break formation, and I correctly read his moves for the rest of the game. He didn't get a single shot at me for two more rounds. He finally cleared his stress and tried to K-turn, but I read that too and did the same, putting my TIE and Deathrain behind him again. Echo was always off to the side, and I got shots most rounds. Rolled for poo poo with Echo, but that last Academy Pilot was MVP. Consistently landed in range 1 behind the enemy, and consistently landed at hit or two every turn. It was beautiful.
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Sep 25, 2015 07:42
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Played my first tournament today, at Team Covenant's monthly tournament. Placed 6th out of 8, and I'm pretty drat stoked about that! I learned a lot. My list was: Echo (TIE Phantom) + Fire Control System + Advanced Cloaking Device + Recon Specialist + Veteran Instincts Deathrain (TIE Punisher) + Proxy Mines + Ion Bombs + Plasma Torpedoes + Extra Munitions 2x Academy Pilots (TIE Fighter) The absolute star of the show was the TIE Punisher. I was consistently able to get off 3-5 ordnance every game. In two games I was able to use the ion bomb to force enemies off the board. I took out a YT-2400 and a Hound's Tooth that way! Huge gains for so few points. I ended with one win and two losses. Scores were 67-100 (loss), 43-100 (loss), and 76-40 (win, time ran out. I lost Echo on the last round when I made a poor maneuver). The first of those losses was by the absolute skin of my teeth. That game was mine to lose, and I totally hosed it up. We got caught up in some rules challenges based around Deathrain's ability to barrel roll after dropping a bomb, and I messed up my placement. It left me in range of my ion bomb, and it caused me to run off the board.  If I hadn't, my opponent's last ship, a Miranda K-Wing with 1 hull left, would have ran straight into my last proxy mine. Key takeaways: The Punisher, in general, is my new favorite ship. It can reliably pump out two ordnance a round: one bomb/mine and one missile/torpedo. It's got enough health (6/3) to survive for at least 2-3 rounds against most lists, although it does struggle with swarms. With Deathrain, if you start your round anywhere close to the opponent, you can drop bombs on them. Doesn't matter if you're in front or behind, because Deathrain can throw bombs forwards and backwards both. This owns. Deathrain also has ridiculous maneuverability. All Punishers have a boost, and with Deathrain, you get an optional free barrel roll when you drop a bomb. Depending on the kind of bombs you have, this can be pre- or post-maneuver. Echo was drat near useless in this list. She's a great flanker, but the prevalence of turrets (TLTs!) makes her too drat squishy. I'm going to replace her, I think. She's worth 40 points so I can do quite a bit. I can't decide between throwing a Firespray of some sort into the list (maybe Kath + Tactician for stress to keep high-value targets in range of the Punisher?), or just going balls out with TIE fighters. Any thoughts?
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Sep 27, 2015 05:09
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Veritek83 posted:This sounds like a really fun list. I'd think about filling out the list with a mini-swarm of TIE/LNs- you could do 3 Black Squadrons + Howlrunner with 4 points leftover for EPTs. My one concern with doing a mini-swarm is that I'm pretty sure I'll end up nuking some of them from time to time. The key to Deathrain in this list is to have at least one on-reveal bomb and one action bomb. The on-reveal bombs blow after everyone moves and tend to hit everyone in range 1. In my current echo+deathrain+2x Academy list, I really don't care if I tag one of the TIES with an ion bomb. They're used primarily as blockers to keep people in range of those bombs. If they get shots, great! But I mostly use them to hem people in for Deathrain to do his thing. If I switch to four (or more) of them, their role shifts from blockers to primary damage dealers. That scares me, because I'll have to be really careful not to hit them and leave one or more of them sitting ducks. Bombs are somewhat imprecise, and most are easy to escape if you're not blocked in. It also leaves the Punisher as the obvious target. They're tough, but if it dies before I throw enough ordnance, it's wasted points. That's why I was thinking of taking something a bit beefier instead of a miniswarm, like a firespray. It can run interference while the 2 TIEs block and Deathrain, well, rains death. It also forces people to decide whether to kill it, or the Punisher, because both are dangerous. No one cares about a couple of TIEs. ConfusedUs fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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Sep 27, 2015 06:15
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High PS arc dodgers are going to eat that Echo for lunch. You'll either have to play very conservatively, with cloaks if you're anywhere near someone like Soontir or Jake Farrel, or you'll take hits. And "near" for those two is relative. Turrets will also munch it up.
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Sep 27, 2015 17:32
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bunnyofdoom posted:Walk into the store. Waht small ship looks cool? Buy it. Enjoy it. Pretty much. You've got a decent Empire set there. You could field something half decent from that alone. If you're good at arc dodging, a list with Soontir Fel and/or Whisper is gonna do pretty good. Throw in a group of regular TIE fighters for whatever you have left. Or maybe a Firespray; the base "Bounty Hunter" is pretty drat cost effective for what it does. Also, just FYI, looks like target is doing Buy 2 get 1 Free for board games, and it includes the new starter set. Imperial Assault, too, but that was out of stock when I looked an hour ago.
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Sep 28, 2015 21:51
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bunnyofdoom posted:Based off that, I would advise Starviper to get Autothrusters and also, beccuase I like the look of em. They look awesome, but for a newbie, buying a ship just for the cards is silly advice. If you're going Scum, sure! Get one of these. They're pretty sweet. And Xizor's ability is basically anti-biggs, which is always fun.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:08
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canyoneer posted:Ran Chewbacca + Falcon title + R2D2, Poe + BB8, and Keyan + PTL vs. My go-to Keyan Farlander base is Keyan Farlander + Title (to get another crew) + Kyle Katarn + whatever else points allow. You can use stress as offensive focus with Keyan. With Kyle, removing stress also gives you a focus...which you can then use for defense if you get shot. Pairing him with a HLC is pretty nice, for the extra dice. PTL is okay if you don't stress yourself enough with maneuvers, but with that short K-turn I usually have no trouble staying stressed to keep myself in range. I prefer something like Predator to re-roll all those dice. He's expensive when you kit him out, though, and can't dodge for poo poo. He's an amazing jouster and unlike most jousters is reasonable against (limited numbers of) turrets, because he has that short k-turn to stay in range.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:25
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Kai Tave posted:Is it really worth the points to do all this just to give a ship with 1 Agility a defensive focus? I mean I know that statistically "1 green plus a focus" is better than "1 green without" but it still seems like a lot of effort to put into a ship that's weighted much more strongly towards attack than defense. Every little bit helps. As you said, he can be quite maneuverable. A bit of dodging and hedging your dice rolls can keep him alive an extra couple of rounds...and that's all he needs.
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Sep 29, 2015 19:36
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grassy gnoll posted:Speaking of wave 7, I need to round out an amazon order. Thread, should I buy a second K-wing or a second Khiraxnsnzz? A second TIE Punisher, then send it to me. I want to try a Redline/Deathrain/Miniswarm list.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:38
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What are "ion hogs"?
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Oct 2, 2015 13:19
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KongGeorgeVII posted:Someone tell me exactly how awful this list is. I've been running Punishers for a couple of weeks now. You can't let the Punisher be the obvious target. They're tough--I've never lost one in a single round--but they're not tough enough to withstand more than one round of concentrated fire. You want something else big and beefy enough that the enemy isn't sure who to target. Whichever they go after, punish them for it. I'm using a basic Bounty Hunter Firespray right now for this purpose, but I've considered using two Punishers instead. With Redline, you want to hold back. Start facing or at an angle. Do 1-forwards every round, or just kind of drunkenly weave about with 1-banks. Make the enemy come to you, preferably when they can't all shoot you at once. Best, get them to chase Soontir around. Either way, unleash hell once they get in range of your missiles. If you get off even half your ordnance, it's usually worth it. If you get it all off, you're probably well on your way to a win. This is the complete opposite of Deathrain, who you want to get right in the middle of things. If you start a round anywhere near an enemy, Deathrain can bomb them. I don't know much about the Shuttle, but talk at my FLGS is that they kinda suck. If that's true, consider dropping it for a couple of academy pilots to use as blockers and harriers.
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Oct 4, 2015 07:28
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Major Isoor posted:I too have a list that I'd like some input on: I know that 3x Bounty Hunter is actually a decent list. I've begun experimenting with 2x Bounty Hunter and a Punisher (I love the Punisher), but you end up with very little ordnance with the named pilots.
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Oct 4, 2015 07:44
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BattleMaster posted:When the next wave is out I want four XX-23 S-Thread Tracers to use up the last four points on my Kath plus 4x Z list but I don't play Imperial and you only get one per ship anyway. I guess I'll be hitting eBay I love those thread tracers so much. There's a lot of possible synergy with all sorts of things, in addition to just giving everyone a target lock on a single target.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:19
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canyoneer posted:Those things will be great for granting a swarm of cheap ships target locks on a high value target. I really think I want to run a tie swarm behind an Advanced or Punisher equipped with the thread tracers.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:28
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Last night I played two games against one of my favorite guys at the local store. He's a really good player. Has won store tourneys a few times and always places highly. First one, he tore me up bad. He had a list with IG88, some weird Hawk, and a couple of Zs. I could not put a dent into 88. I see why people love them. My 2x Bounty Hunter list with Redline kinda sucked though. Second game, though, went far better for me. I ran a punisher and he let me proxy those Thread Tracers from the wave 8 previews. I stuck two on the punisher with accuracy corrector and autothrusters, and ran a swarm of five PS3 ties with it. He had Miranda with TLT, Poe with all the BB8/PTL shenanigans, and an awing. I cornered Miranda early with some fancy pivoting, and lit her up with the Tracers. Five ties with TL took her down in one turn. After that the game turned into a slug fest. Poe was almost impossible to pin down. I eventually trapped him in a corner. Lost the punisher, but managed to take out Poe. Had three ties left, got the awing for the win. Star of the game was a tie on a short peg. Called him Shortbus all game. He took fire from Poe and the awing for four rounds straight without a scratch, and randomly a few other times. Ended up blocking Poe with him for the other two get the final shots.
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Oct 9, 2015 15:53
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That phantom is sexy as hell. I love it! Also, let's say someone wanted to fly two Firesprays in the same list. Imperial or Scum, doesn't matter. How would I kit them out? Who would fly, with what? Would we fill it out with a TIE or a Z95?
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Oct 10, 2015 01:21
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Chill la Chill posted:Let's say I had an extra falcon. What would be the most #HanYoloSwag paint scheme for it? Do it up like some monstrosity from Mad Max
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Oct 11, 2015 16:35
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https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v3!s!117:18,-1,-1,122,-1,-1:22:3:U.-1,U.-1;116:27,110,-1,38,-1,108:1:3:U.-1 Ran this a bit today. I was quite surprised at how good it was. Kath is a monster, especially with Engine Upgrade to position that all-important rear arc, and Boba is surprisingly tanky when he can re-roll most of his dice at any given time. There's no good target here. If you go after Kath, she just runs away and blasts you out of the rear arc. If you go after Boba, he's going to cancel most of your damage. Question about the Mangler cannon: let's say I roll three dice and all come up focuses. I spend a focus to turn them all to hits. Can I then turn one to a crit with the Mangler? Or is there a limit on modifying dice?
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Oct 13, 2015 00:41
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kizudarake posted:So, aside from regular tie fighters, which imperial ships are worth owning multiples of? Interceptors are really good. Soontir is the best but several of the others can be excellent. I really like the new TIE/fo; they're a tiny bit more expensive than regular TIEs but have a shield, a better dial, and a target lock. 3x Firesprays is a pretty strong list with a TON of health. There's a guy locally who runs 4x TIE Advanced but only with the upgrades from the Raider. They're not bad with those.
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Oct 14, 2015 07:19
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Chill la Chill posted:Painting things is cool and good. I want to paint one up like the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile.
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Oct 14, 2015 15:55
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BattleMaster posted:It's good design because the game would be incredibly irritating if defense outperformed offense. This is so true. Imagine if a TIE fighter (or whatever) could get multiple re-rolls and flips on their 3+ defense dice and effectively negate most damage every turn. The game would take 3x longer and be far less exciting.
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Oct 15, 2015 02:03
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Admiral Joeslop posted:
Players at my FLGS often forget about the bombs, too. I always put a Connor Net on scum Kath because it synergizes so well with her back arc bonus dice. People forget, get Connor'd, and eat a second five dice shot. Usually this kills them unless they're super tanky.
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Is there any good way to use Autoblaster turrets/cannons? Uncancelable attack, even with limited range, sounds good. Or is it one of those things that sounds good but sucks in practice? I thought of using something like this: Kavil (Y-Wing) + Engine Upgrade + Unhinged Astromech + Autoblaster Turret to basically get into range 1 on people and stay there, popping Autoblaster turret every turn until they die.
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