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| A harsh mistress |
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26 | 18.06% |
| A hate-verse allergic to love |
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| A flayer of souls |
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28 | 19.44% |
| A wait at the DMV that ends with a surly attendant telling you that you don't have the right documents |
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76 | 52.78% |
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Sep 28, 2014 04:09
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pillsburysoldier posted:Wait Hoke continued playing a concussed player? Why the gently caress did he do that? Who was concussed? Did hr address it post game? Possibly concussed. He (Shane Morris) took a shot to the head and was wobbly, but also had a bum ankle by that time. He could hardly walk, but gave an "I'm OK" sign to the bench and stayed in a couple more plays. Then Gardner came in for a series. He lost his helmet and Morris replaced him for a play, even though he could still barely walk, rather than calling a time out so the third string could get his helmet and get in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1mIcYz-DM8&t=132s Ed: Post game, Hoke said he wasn't aware Shane was hurt, even though you can see him helping him off the field in the video. Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 04:51
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rebel1608 posted:Here's Hoke's explanation Yeah, the problem is deeper than just "is he hurt?" because it points to the failure of organization and attention to detail that defines Hoke's whole program. Someone (assistant coach, medical trainer) should have had the responsibility to recognize a possible concussion situation and had the responsibility to get him out of the game and make sure he is not available until he has been tested and cleared. It's clear that none of this existed. Morris stayed on the field because he wanted to, came off and sat on the bench and only then did a medical trainer sit down with him to assess him. At that point they were looking at his ankle and paid no attention to his head. Then Gardner lost his helmet, and somebody yelled for Morris, who hobbled back into the game despite not being fully tested. At no point did someone take his helmet and tell third string to get ready because he's now #2. At no point did someone communicate with the staff that Morris was unavailable until testing was done. At no point was there any sign of proper organization of the sideline staff or that they even had particular duties and responsibilities. There was no protocol, there was no anything - they were just winging it. This is how Hoke operates, it's why his teams are a disorganized mess. Hoke didn't know Morris' status because it was nobodies job to determine it or relay that information to Hoke. Lack of attention to fundamentals and details are hallmarks of how his teams play, and it shows in all aspects of the team. He is not capable of dealing with the complexities of a major football program. Fire his rear end now. Ed: I'm Real Mad at the moment and will shut the hell up for a while. Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 06:26
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Josh Lyman posted:Official attendance for the Michigan game was 102,926. For those who saw the game, just how much of an overestimate was that? It might be the actual paid attendance, since Brandon had corporate donors buying up blocks of tickets (like Coke). Paid attendance is what they announce. There were also ticket holders that stayed home. Actual butts in seats may have been closer to about 85,000 or so.
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Sep 28, 2014 17:04
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R.D. Mangles posted:Maybe Kansas should do something completely radical and hire a thin or even average-sized coach. Well, there should be another overweight coach who treats his players badly available soon. They should just hold on a bit.
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Sep 28, 2014 17:19
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Mark May is a troll. ESPN is paying him to do and say controversial things. The playoffs don't actually matter until the season is nearly over. This is just ESPN's usual hype machine at work.
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Sep 28, 2014 18:45
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Detroit_Dogg posted:"Should we block these guys?"   TO  CrAzY dAvE's UsEd FoOtBaLl StAdIuM
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Sep 28, 2014 22:26
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tranime scholar posted:Yeah, Pinkel is totally going to walk away from the program where he's the winningest HC of all time for basically no reason. Sorry Mgoblog, but Drunk Mark Richt is here to stay.
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Sep 28, 2014 22:58
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rebel1608 posted:Brady Hoke would like you to know that proper procedures were followed The medical staff had a great week of practice but just didn't execute.
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Sep 29, 2014 03:19
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Well he's actually done a legitimate bad thing in backing Brady Hoke who kept playing an obviously injured and possibly concussed kid so I agree he should be fired. Almost everything else yall have been complaining about is mostly petty tbqh. Seeing as you don't buy tickets to Michigan football games, you opinion on what should happen inside the stadium is pretty irrelevant. Your incessant whining is mostly petty, tbqh.
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Sep 29, 2014 03:37
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Detroit_Dogg posted:It'd be one thing if he was changing actual you know, important things. Like if he got rid of the booster banner that all the players touch or if he painted over The Team, The Team, The Team in the tunnel. But he's not. He's trying to find ways to get people to come out and watch a product that is not very good (which are due to coaches he hired to be fair). Get mad at him for backing Brady Hoke after gross negligence and sitting in on meetings that I'm sure coaches don't want him at. He just chose to support a lame duck coach who put an injured and possibly concussed teenage kid in even more danger, that's awful and something he should be fired for. The things he is doing that you think so highly of are having the exact opposite effect you think they should have. They do not attract Michigan fans to Michigan football games - in fact, they are driving them away. Consequently, they are dumb ideas that he should stop doing. This really isn't very complicated.
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Sep 29, 2014 04:13
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Detroit_Dogg posted:That's where we have a fundamental disagreement. You think the extracurriculars are driving fans away, I think the fact that the team is upper level MAC quality is driving people away. If the team wasn't a complete and utter embarrassment I'm pretty sure nobody would care about water bottles and picnic baskets. Granted, that's impossible to prove but you get my take. As I have pointed out before, Michigan's attendance has held up well for years despite having a long series of bad teams. Attendance didn't start dropping until Brandon started his campaign of changing everything. Season ticket renewals were way down for this season. Student ticket sales were way down for this season. Brandon was squirming all summer trying to drum up sales, because the wait list evaporated and demand was plummeting. This was all before this season started, and the current fiasco of a team took the field. The actual data do not support your position.
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Sep 29, 2014 04:27
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Grittybeard posted:And as other people have pointed out to you it takes a while for this to happen. The RichRod years sucked for you but it was three years and he was gone, then Hoke pulled people back in with a bullshit 11-2 year before starting on this...highly mediocre at best stretch. With the canning of Borges and the hiring of Nussmeier, there was actually a lot of optimism for this year's team, that they could hit maybe 9 or 10 wins. There was nothing about the team itself that would have caused a precipitous drop in ticket demand. While there are no scientific surveys involved, the only reason I heard last winter from people who were dropping their season tickets was that they were fed up with Brandon and the in-stadium atmosphere. Nobody said they were tired of supporting a bad team, precisely because this was not expected to be a bad team. Hence the claim that it's simply a lagging effect doesn't seem to have a lot of actual credence behind it, other than wishful thinking. Michigan ended up with 3 ties in 1992 because the NCAA didn't start their tie-breaking overtime rules until 1994. Ties were common before then.
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Sep 29, 2014 04:42
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Grittybeard posted:I'm actually more interested in this now (and honestly no one is convincing anyone else in this argument so just let it happen and hope everyone gets fired). I know they had ties back then, but three in a year seems like a lot. I'm not sure what you mean by "accepting" the tie. When the game ended, that was it. If the score was tied, it didn't matter. A tie was better than a loss, so you'd play for the tie and hope for a chance at a last minute field goal. If it didn't happen, or it was missed, you still had the tie at least. Rarely would anyone go for two after a late TD rather than kick for a tie. There wasn't enough reward for the win to compensate for the risk of losing.
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Sep 29, 2014 04:54
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Grittybeard posted:Nebraska could have tied by choice in the Orange Bowl in 1983 but went for two, that's the type of situation I'm talking about. Or maybe a 4th and 5 at around the 20 yard line with 30 seconds left where you have to decide whether to kick a field goal to tie or go for it to try to win, that type of thing. That sort of decision varied by coaches and programs, and personnel. As a general rule, the inferior or visiting team would play for the tie, while the superior or home team would be expected to go for the win. Most of the time teams would play for the tie regardless. Not losing was more important than winning. That actually didn't come up all that often, though. Maybe one game a year at most would come down to it. Most ties happened just because nobody could score and time ran out.
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Sep 29, 2014 05:04
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 Players faking injuries to stop the clock and slow down the game was already an old tactic that people bitched about 50 years ago. We called them "Notre Dame timeouts" when I was a kid. I find it hilarious that people continue to bitch about it.
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Sep 29, 2014 20:59
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Sash! posted:Mike Leach is a dangerous madman Craig James has saved us all by making sure he's confined to Pullman, Washington.
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Sep 30, 2014 01:17
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pillsburysoldier posted:I'm starting to wonder what it takes to get out of playoff contention Play in a non-SEC conference.
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Sep 30, 2014 01:38
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KKKLIP ART posted:Still don't understand how Hoke has a job right now. Brandon would never fire him himself and would ordinarily be counted on to be giving a full-throated endorsement of his coach at this point. Managing a media circus and mugging for the cameras is one of Brandon's favorite things to do. However, Brandon has been completely absent the last two days. Something is clearly up. We'll know what soon.
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Sep 30, 2014 03:50
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Raku posted:I can't believe nobody's mentioned Orgeron yet. He's from Louisiana and everything! Flight tracker shows a plane from Tuscaloosa heading for Ann Arbor.
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Sep 30, 2014 04:53
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Numlock posted:http://coacheshotseat.com/ It's like Saban is on that list just to see if anyone's paying attention to the clickbait. He could lose every game for the rest of the season and Bama fans would blame themselves for not wearing the right colored socks to the games.
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Sep 30, 2014 05:09
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Brian Cook offered some insight on this last night via Twitter: ---------- mgoblog @mgoblog · This statement took so long because the medical staff refused to lie. mgoblog @mgoblog This was a day-long fistfight over whether and how Michigan would admit they played a concussed player. mgoblog @mgoblog And for loving once the real Michigan Men won. ----------- He knows a lot about the process that went into this, but can't say much without burning sources. Needless to say, he remains incandescently pissed at Brandon and Hoke.
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Sep 30, 2014 14:14
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DJExile posted:An economist wrote a pretty interesting guest column on Deadspin's "Regressing" site, addressing the idea of commercialism driving away Michigan fans He actually makes the same point we've been making, but doesn't realize it. The quality of the team and the over-the-top corporatism are two independent variables which are not related to each other. People would be much more willing to tolerate the corporatism poo poo if the team was better, no question. But the team isn't better. So doing all the corporatism stuff while the team is bad is a dumb thing to do that drives fans away. If Brandon wanted to do his maximizing revenues poo poo, he needed to wait until the team was consistently good so that people would be more willing to tolerate it. The critical issue that the author ignores is that Michigan fans' response to excessive corporatism and a bad stadium environment with a good team would be to lobby to have the AD replaced rather than not going to the games. The comparison to Stanford is really dumb, as they've had trouble filling their stadium for years, good team or not. Comparing Michigan to Notre Dame during their string of bad teams would have been much more enlightening. All in all, a typically shallow and badly reasoned Deadspin article. Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 14:38
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MourningView posted:It very nearly did. The president had to step in and get them to change the rules to keep the game alive. In fact, the NCAA was born as a result of West Point commandeering a conference called with intention of abolishing the sport, and convincing them to reform it instead.
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Sep 30, 2014 15:23
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MourningView posted:I'm sure Mason knows the playbook and studies hard and makes good decisions in practice and blah blah blah, but that dude flat out does not have the arm strength to play college football a high level and seems terrified to throw the ball down field. They really need to think about making a change because right now everyone can just sell out against the run and the short passsing game. It works okay when Gurley is superhuman (and maybe he'll continue to be that all year) but it seems like a pretty severe limitation on their offense. They really need to think about making a switch, even if it means more mistakes and stuff like that. Yeah, but his first name is Hutson. You gotta respect that.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:24
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VDay posted:Dave Brandon is not having a very good week. It's getting worse: Congressman urges Big Ten to investigate Michigan concussion quote:A U.S. Congressman wants Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany to investigate why Michigan returned injured quarterback Shane Morris into last Saturday's game despite signs of a concussion.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:28
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Thoguh posted:I'm pulling for Brandon to get a contract extension just because he pisses off Michigan Men so much. I'm looking forward to the day that Dave Brandon is named as the new AD for ISU.
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Sep 30, 2014 20:56
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Stunt Rock posted:In fairness most bad decisions look terrible in hindsight. Sumlin didn't look all that special at the end of the 2010 season. 23-16 in three years at a CUSA school at that point. It was 2011 that he went supernova. So I can't really fault the decision too much, but it's sure a nice What if?
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Sep 30, 2014 22:45
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http://www.bigten.org/genrel/100114aaa.htmlquote:ROSEMONT, Ill. – The Big Ten Conference announced today that it has notified the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) of initial recommendations designed to provide enhanced benefits for student-athletes that are members in good standing with their individual universities as part of the NCAA’s new autonomy governance structure.
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Oct 1, 2014 19:11
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And the real Adam Griffith is buried somewhere on Saban's estate.
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Oct 2, 2014 05:05
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Have you considered standing in front of your President's house and shouting at him with a megaphone?
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Oct 2, 2014 16:56
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kayakyakr posted:NCAA Week 6 GDT: Davis Ash to transfer to Michigan for more playing time NCAA Week 6 GDT: What We Have Here Is a Failure To Communicate
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Oct 2, 2014 19:35
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KKKLIP ART posted:The most beautiful choice of the puns. Also letting Hoke off by trying to say that he couldn't have known- if you get a pulled over or arrested by the cops, you can't plead ignorance. You are the head coach, the buck stops with you. If this had been an isolated incident and post-game he'd just said, "Sorry, we screwed up," he probably would have been forgiven. As it is, it's the latest in a long series of incidents that show consistent disorganization and lack of situational awareness by the entire coaching staff. This sort of thing was inevitable in the Hoke regime. Everything post-game is on Brandon, and the clusterfuck of the last 4 days is also an inevitable result of the way he does things. The sooner we're rid of both of them, the better.
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Oct 2, 2014 22:35
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CrumFUNist! posted:I get the nasty feeling the Oregon-Arizona game will be a shootout. Oregon's defense did very badly at stopping WSU's passing attack. I don't think it'll be an Arizona blowout like last year but it could be close. Oregon's O-line looks like poo poo and the defense can't get pressure on the QB. I also suspect Rich Rodriguez is going to be a bit more motivated than usual this week.
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Oct 3, 2014 00:03
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kayakyakr posted:Suppose I'll work on a GDT. Or someone work on a GDT. Michigan seems like a dream to me now.
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