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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Sinteres posted:

He's right about what Republican intent would lead to, but voter suppression efforts haven't been very successful. As long as the judiciary isn't completely taken over by white nationalists, courts will strike down major violations. John Roberts made it easier for little poo poo to sneak through, but not on the level required for this guy's nightmare white minority ruling over brown and black people forever scenario. Demographics mean a Republican Party wedded to white nationalism dies very soon unless the military just takes over for them (or unless white Hispanics very quickly decide they're white and don't give a poo poo how badly people treat other Hispanics).

The problem there is that the Republicans have basically made themselves into the white nationalists party. If they try to make the steps to be less racist, they get eaten alive by the angry white men that comprise so much of their base.

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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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JaggerMcDagger posted:

So other than diehards, do people actually think trump has a chance of winning? Is the_donald just freaking out at this point?

Some news shows are still trying for something like a horse race, but otherwise, only the stupid or delusional still think he'll win.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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GobiasIndustries posted:

Bill Mitchell still clinging to that Halloween Mask stat
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/794936800901009408

Kellyanne Conway is mad she can't drop n-bombs in public
https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/794916612663025664

Gotta take one last chance to motivate their base with some juicy racism.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Do Trump supporters even know what the word "racist" means?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Samurai Sanders posted:

So of the people voting for Trump how many actually hate the poo poo out of him and will be horrified if he wins?

Depends. Do you mean whether they hate him now and just ignore that out of hopes that the rest of the GOP are somehow better than him, or if he takes office and does what is quite possibly the least surprising disaster of a presidency imaginable?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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And here we see the rats not only refusing to abandon the sinking ship, but trying in vain to plug the leaks with their own bodies as its decline becomes slightly slower, but no less inevitable.

STAC Goat posted:

There's a few conservatives I know who have yet to name something to me that they actually consider racist. Except maybe BET.


I'm not joking when I say that conservatives really don't get the concept of racism anymore. All they know is that it's something very mean that they get called just for telling their totally reasonable truths. I mean, the puppet masters clearly get it, it being their favorite weapon, but the rank and file just know it as the only white people slur.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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FALSE FLAG LIBERAL RINO!! How low will KKKillary sink to besmirch the good, honest people at Trump rallies by sending underlings to be heroically beaten by angry mobs at with Lord Trump-sama's approval?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Adar posted:

The fact that KKKillary will do her best to kkkill the GOP for 4-8 years means the Sanderistas will get a lot of what they want, at least in terms of words (actions may be a different story because lol Congress). The Trumpers are going to win a bunch of 2018 seats, though, which will *certainly* be a massive problem for the GOP because all Hillary has to do is broadcast their racism while the country proceeds to get another 2% less white.

Since when has open racism been painful for Republicans? It's the core of Trump's "appeal."

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Well, he'd certainly know about his team's plans, now wouldn't he?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Teikanmi posted:

Something I'll never get about Republican voters is how they see the final election map which has all the rich, smart people in New England and the West coast, where all the good jobs and culture are, and they don't automatically flock to that, in a sort of "they must be doing something right since they are way richer than my Alabama rear end" way

like why wouldn't you follow what the rich successful people are doing

Because those aren't the salt of the Earth "Real Americans." They're evil sinful LIEberals who didn't earn their wealth by looking and pretending to think like they do.

On more practical terms, moving isn't easy or cheap. Often not even possible given the circumstances of most off the inner US.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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a helpful bear posted:

guys its 2 days until Space Empress Clinton is elect

chill,


nothing in





life


matters


(expect edward 'norton' ballz)

Three more days until or orange national nightmare is over. At least until his maniac supporters start their rampage.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Good Lord, it never ends with this guy. We're twelve hours away from him announcing making David Duke another top lackey just to add a little more awfulness around him.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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When the GOP is too scummy for Glenn Beck, things have gone very off the rails. So how long do you think this base level of decency kick will last?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Covok posted:

So, they really, really think that memes = votes. How many Trump voters are under 20, male, white, and uneducated?

Also, anyone got some hard numbers to make me feel better that Clinton will win? So nervous in the last hours.

"Male, white, and uneducated" are all givens, but not so much "under 20." Being an immature jackass is hardly limited to the young.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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I know that after the inevitable massacre from some deranged Trumpista, things like this shirt will be bravely ignored so we can all them random "troubled" white people and pretend nothing is wrong.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Cardboard Box A posted:

A very Joementum article:
https://twitter.com/noonanjo/status/795671580189872128
One of the original sins that has helped create the Trump campaign is the fantasy held by some conservatives that 2008 and 2012 should have been easy races for Republicans to win. It’s not difficult to understand where this view comes from: These people can’t fathom the appeal of a Barack Obama and assume the world thinks like they do. On one level, it’s typical tribalism, like an Auburn fan who can’t imagine rooting for Alabama. But on a deeper level it reflects the willful denial of reality that has helped Donald Trump and Breitbart take over the Republican Party.

If you believe that 2008 and 2012 were actually easy races to win, it leads you to a series of conclusions now manifest in the disaster that is the Trump campaign. A race would be easy to win if only a candidate savaged an opponent, if only a candidate screamed at the media, if only a candidate really appealed to white voters and called non-white voters, well, “rapists” for example. It’s like believing the Earth is flat. Once you live in that reality, it’s only logical not to send ships over the edge.

It wasn’t really a coalition of angry working-class voters that led Trump’s flat-earth crusade. It was a coalition of angry rich media figures who know, even if they are wrong, there is a lot of money to be made denying reality. It’s Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Steve Bannon, Rush Limbaugh, and the usual carnival barkers, most of whom are too smart to believe their own nonsense. But they have made fortunes peddling bile and prejudice and the market continues to be good.

Donald Trump is the perfect candidate for those who have argued it should be easy for a Republican to win the White House. He’s spent over a year screaming at the president and Hillary Clinton, calling our largest neighbors “rapists” and stirring up religious bigotry. In a country founded on religious freedom, he’s called for a religious test to enter the United States.

In the flat-earth world, Trump should be headed to a landslide. He’s running against a Democratic opponent who faced a fierce primary, historically one of the keys to winning the White House. Rarely does the White House remain in the same party for three terms. Hillary Clinton is hardly a fresh face and started the general election with high negatives. This should be a cake walk for the angry candidate building an army of missing white voters. How’s it working?

By running a campaign appealing to white voters, Trump is doing less well with white voters than Mitt Romney (I was the chief strategist for that campaign). Trump’s on track to lose white college-educated voters, something no Republican has done since the FDR era. Even Barry Goldwater won white college-educated voters. Romney won white women by 14 points. Trump will probably lose white women.

Two data points should be enough to guide the Republican party forward: In 1980, Ronald Reagan won a sweeping landslide of 44 states with 56 percent of the white vote. In 2012, Romney won 24 states with 59 percent of the white vote. And a higher percentage of whites voted in 2012 than 1980.


Pages back, but very true. Trump's campaign is the creation of right wing media puppet masters, not some vague sense of anger from poor people.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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War horn him burn his career and credibility down for a pitiful swipe at Clinton is perfect.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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So the day is finally here. Time to see exactly how much of the country will be enthralled by the fascist yam monster.

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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Clinger-Loving Trump



Trump supporters never seem to learn from their failures, do they? Nothing short of celebrating their terribleness will be accepted because daring to imply they need to change is the worst crime of all for such special little snowflakes.

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