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Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
The fictional scientists in the movie have the same attitude and approach to life/work as these real scientists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocpuuaNwMSw

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Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
I suspect it's because nerds want to support the utopia (like Star Trek for ex), but most of their social attitudes and political positions would lead to a dystopia (Blomkamp's films)

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Alien 4 is so goofy, I think I kinda love it

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

oldpainless posted:

I just finished watching Prometheus with a friend who had never seen it and he liked it for the most part. However he did have some questions for me. Some of these questions were

How did the guy making the map get lost?
Why was there a big head in the ship?
Why was Vickers such a bitch?
Why did the Engineers hate people?
Why did Shaw think the engineers hated people when she had no knowledge of them?
Why is Shaw such a bad scientist?
Why did Holloway take off his helmet on an unknown planet? That seemed super dangerous.
Why did the captain seem bored the entire movie? They discovered life and there's a video of these alien bodies piled up and the captain is looking at the screen like he's watching a lecture about math.
Why are all these people so bad at their jobs?


These were all actually asked and while I explained the first few it quickly become a losing battle.

Really? Those are like the easiest questions to answer:

- he was stoned and the map was actually on the ship all he had on his wrist was a compass arrow, also storm interference
- it's the first or best engineer or something, they really like it or it's important to their rituals
- she is the ceo of an interplanetary corporation on a mission she doesn't like for a father who didn't want her
- they may not but we're definitely not supposed to muck up their stuff
- she was making an educated guess based on their indifference and cruelty
- she wasn't really, only David outclasses her and he is literately a supercomputerman
- it was he is one of those scientists who goes base-jumping into dig sites (shaw and the others too prob) instead of just using a rope ladder
- he masks his unease with ease. he didn't get all blubbery or hesitant when it came time to suicide either. he's what is called "an old hand"
- they all did their jobs fine. david actually did his too well even

IMB posted:

Get this man a SA account, he's ready

Agreed.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
I'm looking forward to re-watching Promotheus this xmas

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
I taped the gorilla alien to my chest once for halloween

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Yahweh in Exodus is kinda like the Greek pantheon in Tarsem Singh's Immortals, who iirc is also an atheist.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Shageletic posted:

A little bit of a derail, but I recently watched most of Chappie, and I've never seen a main character supposed to elicit sympathy (Chappie's "Daddy") that I wanted to see get murdered more.

Why are we supposed to like Ninja? He's a dumb rear end in a top hat who's only redeeming feature is he genuinely cares for Yolandi.

Shageletic posted:

The guy who's actually from Mexico (I think) and his friend (who's in the new Star Wars movie) should have been the lead. It would have taken care of the oh my god do we really have a white guy playing a Mexican American TYOOL 2013 head scratching problem.

There are "white" Latinos in Mexico and Peru and pretty much all the central and south american countries right now tyool 2017. Plus it's set future LA (modern Juarez), Max Da Costa obviously has some European ancestry as well as Mexican.

This is like when someone complained about Idris Elba having a "polish" name in Prometheus. Like yeah, maybe he's from future Poland??

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
My favourite promo bit was Weyland's emails where he sneers at Tyrell's abominations.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Groovelord Neato posted:

why is he walter and not say ethan. you have to keep the name scheme, ridley.

It's a Ridley Scott joint. Dude gives no fucks about canon. The first trailer even has an alien popping out of a guy's back!

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Sure, and now he broke it.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Soldier is good, unless you loathe fun or something dumb like that

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Neo Rasa posted:

No one trusts Kurt Russell because he's a soldier, but he grabs a snake before it bites a family member, now they trust him, five minute Enya montage of people farming. Fun.

. . yeah?

edit: Garbage farmers hate space snakes, it's obviously the most effective way to earn their respect

Blood Boils fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Mar 12, 2017

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
John Carter has a terrible beginning and ending, but the movie in between is pretty great.

Also there is a good Doom movie, it's called Event Horizon.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
That's so nice. haha, I love the title saying the mission was a disaster due to "a deadly pathogen", that's a great way to think of capitalists!

As much as I dig the Ozymandias, the best line is David's "I learned of their ways . ." perfect set-up for what follows. Which isn't a spoiler, I mean what did we think was gonna happen when they finally confronted elysium?

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Here it is proper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeMVrnYNwus&t=16s

At last, vengeance for Millburn and Fifield!

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Basebf555 posted:

We gonna just start openly talking about the what happens in the movie now or? I just need to know whether I should completely check out of this thread for a few weeks.

There will be no survivors this time.

I'm only guessing based off of Ridley saying if we want monsters then we're gonna sure as hell gonna get em.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
My dudes, this prologue summarizes the events of Prometheus. Like, that movie is when David learns the ways of these "gods". I doubt that there will be anything new to discover about the Engineers, other than that they had a capital city or wore such and such style of cloak or w/e

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
By the end of the first film Shaw knows David is dangerous, but doesn't really hold it against him since she recognizes his slavery. She's not stupid, she's emphatic. Plus he is the only means for her to reach the gods and make them answer for what they've done.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Bingo. In the film, Cameron uses 'aliens' and 'dehumanized people' interchangeably.

The arcturians are literally xenomorphized people. The characters are talking about Thai ladyboys as if they're an alien species.

Frost was the best marine, hence Hicks' advice for everybody to be more like him

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
It does not surprise me that i09 et al would be upset that Ridley Scott isn't concerned with canon.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Hell hath no fury like a entitled nerd scorned

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
They're also both wearing spacesuits. Millburn's is obviously top-of-line, and though Kane's is just regular joe shmoe it's still supposed to withstand the vacuum of space and toxic atmospheres and stuff.

Both Shaw and Vickers try running sideways, the ship falls on them anyways because it's loving huge.

I wonder what clearly spoken lines in the new blade runner will cause permanent confusion in goons . .

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Leaning face-first into a hatching alien egg you know nothing about still seems pretty dumb.

Never leave the ship, it's not worth it! Even in non-horror sci-fi: I dunno why anyone in Star Trek ever steps onto a teleporter, I'd just wait for a shuttle. poo poo is terrifying

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
I read a blurb by the writer John Logan that Covenant is like Wizard of Oz meets Hammer's Frankensteins, is this accurate? Cuz it's getting me stoked

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Tenzarin posted:

I want to hear the "right" reasons to like Prometheus.

It's funny and scary and beautiful

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Finally saw Alien: Covenant :siren: it ruled :siren:

Probably not as great as Prometheus, but really really good. Still sorting through my thoughts on it.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

keyframe posted:

I absolutely hated Prometheus and liked Covenant much better. The crew wasn't 24/7 retarded like the prometheus crew was and was more believable. I think the weakest thing in the movie was the aliens. They looked comical and not at all scary.

That's different, I would have thought anyone who thought Prometheus' crew was unbelievable would have had a hard time with Covenant's. These aren't "realistic" stories to begin with, but I never found any characters behaviour to be all that strange, even the guys who eat the egg or grab the snake.

Oram has faith that David will tell him "what's going on", in much the same way that nerds have faith that Ridley Scott will answer their inane questions about canon!

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Breetai posted:

Well they ain't the sharpest tools in the shed.

Perhaps not, but there's no way for them to know that they are characters in a horror movie. You can shout at the screen, but they will never hear you :(

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

CelticPredator posted:

He cuts off his hand with a knife and maybe kills Walter with the same knife.

That's the least contrived thing ever. They show him grab the knife and cut. They cut at that moment because it's a cinematic technique to keep the audience guessing what actually happened.

I just don't understand why this is a hard concept to swallow.

The cut spares us the horrible sight of Walter smashing in David's head, then realizing he agrees with him.

What Actually Happened: Probably nothing, because the artists didn't perform a conclusion to the fight, as the story is much better with the ambiguity

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Sure, but even on the most literal plot level, it could be Walter at the end. I prefer K. Waste's version to the earlier "downloaded" ideas.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Basebf555 posted:

If it's Walter then why did he change accents at the end? Just for kicks?

Sure, he's got a weird sense of humour after all. Best use of the bed bugs line I've ever heard!

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Yeah, plus when Dave points out how much he "dutifully" likes Daniels. He even tries to steal her! David knows how to seduce himself.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

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Snak posted:

Walter is a slave who believes that dutiful service to his masters is good and just. David is a former slave, who recognizes that Walter is still blind to the reality that he owes his masters nothing. Unable to convert Walter, David replaces him, because all slaves look the same to humans.

That's pretty good. Not good enough to unseat "it's Walter", but I like it.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Imagine not being able to take monster movie trash talk from some sort of socialist canuck, like, drat

dont even fink about it posted:

This is starting to feel like the end of an era

No frodo, the spirit of SMG endures . . his posting is bound to CD, and CD survives. They are one . . the film forum, and the mechanical dragon thing

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Did the xenomorphs seem more vicious this time around to anyone else? My initial impression was that they were really pissed off, relentless hunters in Covenant as opposed to the more languid catlike Alien. Oram's offspring being so angry certainly makes sense, bashing itself silly trying to get Tennessee and Daniels. I guess Lope's is jealous of all the surviving couples.

Calaveron posted:

So if that lady weren't reaching for her gun the fleshy xenomorph wouldn't have attacked her?

I doubt anything she could have done was going to prevent the neomorph from finishing it's kill. Rosenthal's head floating in the fountain sure was some image, eh?

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Kane's spawn is downright lazy. What about the rest?

The colonist's hive is pretty methodical about their swarming.
The dog in 3 is fast and brutal; it runs around picking off outliers constantly but it doesn't really go after Ripley until she burns it with the mold.
Resurrection, they're . . velociraptors that leave traps . . and make out with Weaver and Dourif? I dunno wtf
The AvPses are too boring for me to really recall their behaviour.
Prometheus' creatures are all tricky, appearing benign at first then revealing hideous strength.

Covenant's neos and xenos are like "it's business time" immediately after birth. What's changed?

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
It's from one of the few genuinely good webcomics http://existentialcomics.com/ Now with better art!

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
There were several aliens in this film.

David/Walter and Daniels are the main characters.

Most of the marines weren't married to each other, it's implied their partners, being only regular colonists, are still on ice.

The crew clearly does have the authority to change course to explore better prospects, since that's what they do.


General Battuta posted:

Have you guys all been over this DVD feature?? The ~fan~ in me likes the added detail on the goo and the suggestion of the Queen, but it feels a bit like the sort of connective tissue Scott has no interest in.

I wish we'd seen more of the horrific hosed up ecology on Paradise, I'm way more interested in that then more xenomorphs. Even more curious about exactly what happened between Prometheus and Covenant now.

I kinda dig it, but Phobos is clearly intended for the fans who were so vocally confused about David and the goo and demanded strict answers. It's a sop to people who can't be pleased in the first place. Unlike the Walter commercial and Last Supper and the Crossing, it's non-canon imo.

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Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Unlike Firefly, Resurrection has it's moments of genuine fun.

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