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Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Adult Sword Owner posted:

I don't regret purchasing it at all even though I'm awful and am stuck at around 700k credits so I can't actually get out of my Viper

Sell all the modules off your viper, buy a cobra chassis, fit it out and do smuggling missions (drugs, weapons, slaves) for 100-200k a pop, and you'll have enough to buy something bigger in no time.

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Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Siets posted:

Haven't played E:D since 1.1 or so. Figured I would wait and see if the game introduced better income generation methods over a few patch cycles.

Anybody able to validate the "10 mil / hour" claims in this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytAk5IWR4Yg It seems like every YouTube video detailing a high-income method is promptly followed by the nerf bat treatment from Frontier in order to return player income generation to previous Korean MMO'esque soul-crushing levels of terrible. If this method is real however, I may be looking at getting back into the space saddle. 8 ~ 10 mil/hour for space combat with added risk of player interaction sounds like my cup of tea.

Ignoring the 50 million weekly stipend, with the bounty bonuses it is super easy for you to get 10 mil an hour just bounty hunting with the rank 5 bonus. Or even more. I clocked in 15 million in less than an hour just farting around half-assedly resetting a HiRES.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Adult Sword Owner posted:

Also as I understand in the smuggling theory is request a dock, line up to the slot, boost up and hit silent running until you get inside?

When I was doing it I didn't even bother with the running silent, I just rushed the slot at full boost while abusing lateral thrusters. Once you're through the slot you're generally OK. Smuggling will get your merchant rank up pretty quick, too.

Edit: Also runs to outposts are ideal since there's no cops out there.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Siets posted:

Cool, thanks for the info. From what I can gather, this method seems to be the highest form of income in the game currently, correct? Or are there still yet better methods that only those who are in with the Mumble Illuminati are privy to?

This is probably the quickest way, yes. It takes some low to moderate poopsocking, but if you like flying around and blowing poo poo up it's not a big deal.

Also we don't have a mumble illuminati, just an IRC autocracy.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Siets posted:

Can you or someone explain this in more detail? Haven't played since 1.1. I'm working on my Rank 5 at the moment.

When you hit rank 5, if you're with avril whoever (I can never tell these people apart -- the not anime princess one) her rank 5 bonus is a nice fat 100% added bonus to bounties. So you get rank 5, then you go to a resource extraction site and shoot pirates for their bounties, which get the multiplier when you go to turn them in. resource extraction sites are found at planets with metallic rings. I think also rocky rings. But definitely not icy rings. Hi/Low/Normal intensity doesn't seem to really matter, either way you'll end up doing a lot of quit to menu -> start game to reset the instance until you get one that has lots of good targets to kill.

e:f,b

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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I've cashed in over 100 million in bounty vouchers in empire space, I'm considered an "ally" by empire systems, and yet no rank, no missions to even start on the path. poo poo seems broke.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Are we talking about Super Contra?

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Going near a magnetar sounds like a really bad idea anyway. Seriously this is some baaad poo poo.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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lee_ars posted:

It's definitely among the influences, yep. The whole thing is supposed to have a hardboiled noir-ish feel to it. Anyway, not selling anything or pimping for an indiegogo publishing campaign, but I know past issues have popped up in this thread and past ED threads and wanted to share for those folks who are of a graphic novel bent.

(SA gets a somewhat oblique shout-out in chapter 6, too!)

This is really cool thanks for sharing it! How did you put it together, screenshots + posterization filters?

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Leif. posted:

Where do I find paint/livery schemes? I've never seen it available so far, though I haven't explored too much.

They cost real money: https://www.frontierstore.net/

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Chrysophylax posted:

BTW guys, mining at a HazRES is amazing. The yields are spectacular, you can fill your ship in almost no time. We just had a session with a few of us providing cover while others mined. Great fun

Playing mining escort is fun, and you even get a cut of the take in the form of trade dividends! HazRes guarding can get fairly intense, too, so bring a hefty ship that can slug it out.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Paramemetic posted:

This is not true, I was receiving dividends from Dils all last night whenever he was selling the things he mined.

It's a stupid small amount compared to the profit from shootmans as an escort, but it's there.

This is true, I made a couple hundred k from "Trade Dividends" whatever those are. Most of the money made last night came from good old fashioned honest space american space murder, though. I think I pulled in about 10 million or so? The Frantic nature of things prevented me from hitting the pirates with a KWS, but all things considered it was fun and good.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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I think he got lost and is looking for the Star Citizen thread maybe???

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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When ramming, you need to switch your SYS pips to max right before impact.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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:siren: ATTENTION SMUGGLERS :siren:

Here's one crazy trick to prevent your rear end from being scanned by the po-po:

Pop a chaff

You can't be scanned while chaff is active!

Old Johnny Law Hates this trick!

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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We are gonna do sooooo much stupid fun poo poo in those rovers. Grand Prix on New Africa, demolition derbies, anaconda ramping. Oooooh maaaan. :v:

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Voyager I posted:

Guess I better hop on the Sothis train before it gets patched if I ever want to fly a ship bigger than a Vulture.

Out of curiosity, who has made the bulk of their funds through exploits / poor design choices? I managed to grind myself up to a few million the old fashioned way, but most of my money came from farming combat credits under the shadow of that Battleship in the old broken combat zone event, and and then another big chunk from a server update or something putting everyone into the top 1% for missions they hadn't turned in yet.

Without those I'd probably be in a D-fit Vulture at best.

I came into the game late 1.3. I started with the standard sidewinder and 1000 credits. That was approximately 6 weeks ago. Now I'm sitting on 595,890,122 CR in total assets, 387,324,402 Cr cash money. I farted around the first 2 weeks doing basic smuggling missions until I had enough to get into an Adder, then a Cobra, and then finally a Vulture.

Then I found out about the Power Play/Undermining grind and started making a hundred million credits a week. Sadly that's not really a thing anymore, as interdicting is much harder now. I'll probably continue to make shitloads of cash doing the smuggling runs until they nerf the poo poo out of that, and hopefully by then I'll be a billionaire and just not care anymore.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Adult Sword Owner posted:

I mean I've done basically this path (though Eagle -> Cobra -> Vulture), but how the hell did you get that much that quickly

I've been playing since June, but I guess I only really put huge effort in recently, and even I'd like to think I've done pretty well so far.

It was a couple hours a week doing the undermining of enemy factions (10k merits to start, then 5k a week after) + an hour or two in a RES a week to make 100 million. Everyone moans about the grind, but coming from old school MUDs and WoW and poo poo, the grind is effortless to me. I actually kind of enjoyed it, because the combat/flight model is so good.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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SynthOrange posted:

Okay what's with the Advanced Discovery Scanner? The range says inf, but I point it at a distant unexplored object and it doesnt scan?

The discovery scanner only tells you that something is there, not what it is. To find out what it is, you have to target it and get fairly close. Once you see the swirling "SCANNING" thing in your lower left display, just wait.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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This needs more love, Rykka did an amazing job:

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Gonna pimp my rover out soooo hard.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Your ship actually has headlights. Press "L" to turn them on. Usually it's enough of a warning. Usually.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Thrustmaster HOTAS X is like 40-50 bucks and a very solid product. I recommend that.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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I would pay a few thousand credits to hitch a ride to another station without having to drive there myself. That could be kind of cool.

of course, if I took passengers on myself, we'd be taking a 1-way trip into a black hole as soon as everyone was belted in.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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I really don't want to hear diatribes about how the docking system is broken and how he shouldn't be forced to get a docking computer but also at the same time, the game should compensate for his complete lack of situational awareness and oh my god he couldn't even pass proving grounds silver in wow pleease noooooo

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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aleksendr posted:

After making nearly a half million on trade and mission i decided to try my hand at combat. Armed with a brand new Cobra MKIII (i just love the engine sound on that bird) with mostly B and C class fitting i spotted a "low intensity" conflict zone and had the brillant idea of getting involved.

- Meh, that cant be that hard, it say "low intensity" right in the name but at least dock somewhere close before going in. A refuel and re-arm later i was ready to teach those bastard indenpentist some manners.

10 minutes after dropping "in the zone" i was back in the station with 15% hull, a busted canopy, 35 seconds o2 in life support and a soiled space suit.

I did make around 50K by team killing some Vipers but i learned to never stare at an angry Anaconda face. I think i will run a few more missions and maybe upgrade some critical fitting like the shield and power distributor to A class before trying that again.

Is there some way to increase canoppy resistance ?

Don't do conflict zones unless it's to help a faction. The pay is garbage, the ships are WAY tougher than anything you'll find in any RES, and you can very easily get your poo poo pushed in at a moment's notice if you don't know what you're doing.

Seriously, CZ ships pack armor and hull reinforcements, while most pirate ships don't. Bounties also pay out a hell of a lot more. So go kill some rats!

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Reverend Jake posted:

To get the full DF experience, I figured I'd give it a shot tonight on the 55" TV in the living room, via Steam streaming. I unplugged the HOTAS X from the PC in the studio, plugged it into the Macbook in the living room, plugged the Macbook into the TV, started up, marveled at the splash screen and menu in glorious hugeness...

...and then realized that the Macbook wasn't passing the HOTAS X control inputs to the PC. The options screen didn't even notice that there was a joystick plugged in. Any advice, other than "buy a Steam Link?"

Try installing drivers for it on the mac? Does it need drivers?

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Einbauschrank posted:

I have amassed 100K in fines and the stupid ship computer is only able to tell me that the offended party is the "Glory to the People Party". No starsystem, nothing. Any ideas how I can pay back the fines with this meagre information?

I love how in the future we are blazing through witchspace, but have to keep track of our fines and itineraries in a scrapbook.

Dont pay fines. That's for suckers.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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The funny thing is the clipper is kind of poo poo now. It used to be awesome, and it's still pretty decent, but it's nowhere near as good as it used to be. Ironically, I think it was a combination of the hull tank meta and the FAS that killed its popularity. I almost never see anyone flying them anymore. Why fly the clipper when you could be flying the FAS which is even more maneuverable, and a lot harder to hit?

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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tooterfish posted:

On the assumption they're lower power, so contribute less heat?

It's an interesting question, I've never actually seen that tested.

There is absolutely no reason to use E class modules because D class modules are superior in every way except price. They're lighter, use less energy, and slightly more effective than E class modules in every way. It's a flat upgrade.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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:flashfap:

Get a load of the punt-cannon shells too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBO3mjktETQ

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Kavros posted:

Is there literally any way to get the black friday paint job if you missed it by a short time?

Can you even buy it?

Nope. Sorry.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Pretty sure the run-away AI is already in place. I see it all the time on PP NPCs, specifically the ones hauling mcguffins for you to interdict/stop.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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I still don't see how incentivizing open play in any way diminishes the experience of solo/private group players. Like, seriously? Why so against it? If you don't want to play open, you don't have to. There's no penalty. Not getting a bonus is NOT a penalty.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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I'm not saying deny single/group players anything. Leave them exactly as they are, but throw on a 10% bonus to whatever for Open Players, as an incentive to play in open. How exactly is that diminishing the experience of single/group players?

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Main Paineframe posted:

Don't. Powerplay is garbage, and conflict zones are pretty bad too. Nav beacons and resource extraction sites give you just as much fighting for a lot less trouble.


In terms of "can do everything, including combat", the Cobra III is the best you'll get. Most ships are better at one thing or another, at least to the point of being either "combat" or "noncombat" - multipurpose ships tend to be distinctly worse at combat, and combat ships tend to be distinctly worse at non-combat. There's nothing to shoot at when you go exploring anyway, and explorers usually go unarmed to save weight.

The Asp Explorer is the premier exploration ship, which is also pretty solid at trading and okay at combat, but if you give up on the combat requirement then the Type-6 is almost as good, and the Hauler makes a surprisingly good explorer for its cost.

The Python is another Can-Do-Everything ship. It's actually one of the best trading ships because it can hold the most while still fitting on a medium docking pad, which means it can still dock at outposts. It packs 3 Large hardpoints and 2 Mediums, giving it the most firepower you can get aside from the big 3C ships (Corvette, Cutter, and 'Conda). It's fairly maneuverable as well, but not terribly fast. It has decent range too. The only downside is that it's pretty expensive. You'll need around a hundred million credits just to fit it with A class thrusters, powerplant, shield, FSD and Distributor. So add on a few more million for weapons and internals.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Knifegrab posted:

It would seem the Vive UI scale fix, that is listed in the patch notes, did not actually make it to this release either. Thanks frontier!

Are you loving serious?? That's the major thing I was looking forward to. :negative:

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Out of curiosity: what are people looking for, exactly, content-wise? Everyone always throws that line around, no content, mile wide, inch deep etc etc, but I never really got what people are expecting. There seems to be plenty of stuff to do in the game, especially now that there's this whole randomized loot/farming/grinding thing added in. Lots of interesting ways to customize your ship. Like at what point do you say "OK, there's an adequate amount of things to do"?

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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Have they managed to make the Galaxy Map usable in VR yet? I'm wanting to get back into the game, but the unusable interface was just ruining it for me.

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Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007

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black.lion posted:

I will do this

How do I do this?

O and I love space trucking I just wanna see what else is fun in this game, though I do wish I could somehow do 160 lys without having to stop for gas halfway through, or in less than 35-40 jumps - hopefully that FS upgrade and the "fastest" thang will help that.

Tx ;*

In your Galaxy Map, when plotting a route, there's 3 options: FSD Boost, Economical Routes, Fastest Routes -- Tick the Fastest Routes option.

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