Chrysophylax posted:

TorakFade posted:

If you only play 4-5 hours a week like I guess most normal people do, getting the hundreds of millions required to purchase, outfit and operate the big ships is a pain in the rear end. I have a Python, I'm working on upgrading it but it takes a loooong time...

OB_Juan posted:

That Adder really makes me wish we could reload ammunition. As it is, a hypothetical a wing of that Adder and two Eagles would have a hard time getting anywhere due to short jump distance and no scoops.

GaylordButts posted:

I really wish I could run a sweet blue/white coloration, but I just can't get used to how badly they tend to muck with friend and foe colors on the radar. Screw the TR, red should always = dead.

TomR posted:

This is a green hud with red enemies.

<MatrixRed> 0.2, 0, -1 </MatrixRed>
<MatrixGreen> -1, 1.25, -1 </MatrixGreen>
<MatrixBlue> 0.22, 0.32, 2 </MatrixBlue>

Met posted:

Just play around with a generator.

TomR posted:

That makes it look crummy. Here are some in game screenshots.

Chrysophylax posted:

Combat Zones are worse still. Their only purpose is for you to help your chosen minor faction that happens to be in a war, and get a tiny bit of money while doing it. As in, I 100% believe the rewards are so absurdly low for the difficulty and effort involved that the actual reward in FDev's mind is propping up your faction.

Gestalt Intellect posted:

Now that you'll be able to actually launch smaller ships and the orca is supposed to be a passenger ship, it should be the ship that specializes in a huge number of stored ships. It's a big dumb elephant surrounded by angry, tiny bees.

Dante80 posted:

Regarding this, I really think they should have taken the time to make a slightly different UI than the default. I understand the lore says that the UI belongs to the pilots federation and is the same for everything, but still..its a little lazy imo. At least, we know that it will be functional..C:

timn posted:

Mining is cool, the imperial eagle is cool, CQC is cool, this update is cool.

Has anyone played around much with the new federal ships? They look sweet but on paper I don't really see the niche they're supposed to fill. The assault ship looks a bit worse than the imperial clipper at about the same price, and the gunship seems significantly worse than the python at only a marginally lower price. Is there something else to them in actual use?

H13 posted:

I think one thing that they need to improve on is mid-level ships.

Sidewinder -> Eagle\Adder -> Viper\Cobra works well, but then after the Cobra, you've got a loooonnngg time before you end up buying a new ship. It isn't until you start making millions fairly quickly before you can start looking at the upper level ships like Pythons and Vultures. I reckon they need to fill out their roster a bit more so there's some good stuff to progress to after the Cobra.

Sard posted:

Haven't checked into E:D in a while, I saw some posts about the new Federal ships being a lot more agile than the FDS. I was originally grinding slowly towards that, but are the new ships cheaper or of lower required rank? I really like the chunky design of these ships and want something like the Advanced PatCom from I-War 2 to tool around in. The Diamondback Scout is fun and has that feel but I gotta move up sometime.

Galaga Galaxian posted:

The Vulture's greatest crimes are its best weapons loadout is boring, poor jump range, and it looks .

Otherwise it is a kickass ship.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Weren't C4 beams leaked/teased?

With the Fed Corvette having two C4 hardpoints, I certainly hope they expand the offerings for the huge slot.

Zaardvark posted:

*edit* Whoops, it would have been better for me to post this in the PGS thread instead. Just me talking about the best ship to use as a long-distance smuggler.

For those interested in Sothis runs, I'm going to echo earlier sentiments that a Cobra is probably best suited for long-distance smuggling, even moreso than something like a DBE. Most ships (like the DBE) that get really good jump distances are somewhat lacking in internal slots, but the Cobra can get a cargo capacity of up to 40 tons, which is pretty good for a ship that can also get a jump distance of around 24 LY. I've now done the run with a DBE and a FAS, the latter of which was horrible and I never want to do that again. Go forth and GIT PAID.

AndroidHub posted:

For me season 2/horizons/1.5 isn't really about the planetary landing, it's about basically everything else, cool ships, more modules, more/better missions, multicrew, character customization, etc. planetary landing is just icing on the cake.

But the mile wide inch deep criticism is well deserved by the game, and it will probably always be there for some people.

Adult Sword Owner posted:

1) Where can I find C3 multicannons? Trying dual C3 beams and...ehh.

Zaardvark posted:

It's amazingly nimble for such a massive ship, its turning is comparable to (and possibly a bit better than) a Vulture. It has terribly lovely shields, however, which is only partially mitigated by quite thick armour. The FAS hardpoints take some getting used to, as well, as, from a pilot's perspective, they're located at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock. As a fighter, it fits between a Vulture and a Python.

Drake_263 posted:

Armour is simply a measure of the ship's hull hitpoints, one point of armour equaling one point of damage from a given weapon. (Coriolis indicates a weapon's damage as both plain damage vs. armour, and megajoules (MJ) versus shields). Bulkhead upgrades add a percentage to your armour value (+40% for reinforced bulkheads, +95% for milspec composite), the two more expensive specialized bulkhead types theoretically add a damage resistance/weakness to thermal/kinetic weapons (no specific numbers provided) and hull reinforcement packages are a flat +x armour (on top of the bulkhead bonus, it doesn't get multiplied).

Adult Sword Owner posted:

So why is Sothis the preferred smuggling station?

Major Isoor posted:

Alright then, thanks for the heads-up. I might just dump a shield booster on it, or something.
(Also, that Sothis smuggling trick is still ongoing, right? Because I'm really gonna need a boost to my funds to be able to afford all this)

EDIT: ^^^ Eh, well, it's not like I've got any better ideas for that second chaff slot anyway, now that the wake scanner has been ruled out

Drake_263 posted:

The combat benefit of chaff really depends on the ship you're flying. Chaff is best for small, nimble ships like Sideys, Eagles, Vipers, Diamondbacks - I'd say the biggest ships that really benefit from chaff are things like Cobras and Vultures. Any bigger ships than that (I'm looking at you Asp) tend to be so big that even if their gimbals are going nuts, chances are they're going to hit SOMETHING on you.

It does, however, keep people in PVP from punking your subsystems regardless of ship size (assuming they're not using fixed guns).

Voyager I posted:

Guess I better hop on the Sothis train before it gets patched if I ever want to fly a ship bigger than a Vulture.

Out of curiosity, who has made the bulk of their funds through exploits / poor design choices? I managed to grind myself up to a few million the old fashioned way, but most of my money came from farming combat credits under the shadow of that Battleship in the old broken combat zone event, and and then another big chunk from a server update or something putting everyone into the top 1% for missions they hadn't turned in yet.

Without those I'd probably be in a D-fit Vulture at best.

SynthOrange posted:

Crap, will I need an interdictor?

Chrysophylax posted:

Cannons work only if the ship you're attacking is very large, Asp and above. But to be fair, cannons are poo poo guns by design - they're the low power, low energy variants of the multicannons. High punch, low bullet velocity, easy to miss with.

SynthOrange posted:

I'd enjoy combat more if there were more than 1 type of viable gun.

frank.club posted:

Did they really nerf all other smuggling missions too?

Zaardvark posted:

So, I poked around Sothis just earlier. In my opinion, cherry picking missions from Sothis / Ceos is still a reasonably lucrative run - it's just not as ridiculously profitable as it was pre-nerf. Hopping between the two stations in Sothis and the one in Ceos, I picked up 4 missions worth slightly under a million each, and filled the rest of my hold with the rare good there (crystalline gold). That's around 4.5 million for the half hour it takes to resolve the four deliveries. So it's still faster than mining, and at least as good as mass hauling. I'll note I didn't see a single mission that paid over one million credits, though, and even those were quite rare - I was only able to pick up 4 of them between the three stations. The whole thing is super fast if you're in a scoop-less Asp. Given the volume of missions with big payouts, though, there is no longer any incentive to go there in a ship larger than an Asp.

tl;dr Sothis is no longer a gold rush, but it's possibly still the most efficient use of time for money. Just by a smaller margin, post-nerf.

KakerMix posted:

The Corvette has those two huge hardpoints center mounted directly behind the cockpit, it also has a single large hardpoint so you know that the large is also center mounted. It's also the most maneuverable out of the large ships as the Corvette is more maneuverable than the Anaconda and the Cutter is not as maneuverable as the Anaconda. Cutter is fastest though.
Without power plant numbers and shield numbers though who can say. I'm so into those two huge hardpoints though.

Mercurius posted:

The Corvette seems really good to me. From what I can tell, it has much better hardpoint placement than the Anaconda (which I think is horrible as most of you know by now ) and if they ever put in C4 beams or multicannons in it'll be an absolute monster. They also said it has decent shields so I'm hoping for somewhere around the FdL level. I also think it also looks better than the Anaconda.

I'm thinking at this stage that the Anaconda will be the best all rounder of the large ships (and the best at exploration/cargo stuff), the Fed Corvette will be the best at packing straight up firepower (especially against larger targets) and the Cutter will be the best at ramming things and looking/sounding the best.