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Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Potato Salad posted:

Plenty of enthusiasts haven't upgraded PCs in years; the six-year-old Intel 2500k is still within 25% of more recent cpus in the real world at most with many games seeing little to (more rarely) literally zero benefit from 6700k or 7600k chips all running usually at a standardized 4GHz. Upgrading is done more for features or convenience.

All my clients that ran on sub-4 year laptop replacement schedules -- legitimate in the 2000s but no longer something that really beats a fair cost-benefit analysis outside heavy knowledge workloads -- have added a year at least to their timelines. Save cash, don't needlessly throw out old laptops. TLC SSD endurance has come so far in four years that I'm basically comfortable with handing someone a laptop for five years or more right now, and that's assuming Intel does something crazy by 2022 that actually meaningfully alters performance. Sub-10W chips with awesome graphics capabilities and every virtualization hardware feature needed for the next generation of security functions to work are.......already here.

My 2600k running at 4.2Ghz with a Corsair closed loop cooling thingy was built about 6yrs ago & I only put a gtx970 in it because the old gtx580 packed up.

It runs pretty much everything at max detail & 60+ fps

*edit* how the gently caress did this end up in wrong thread? anyways..ignore me I'm obviously a tard!

Trainee PornStar fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jan 19, 2017

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Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Don't get your hopes up, someone will be along shortly to explain why this is wildly optimistic/wrong.
Normal doom & gloom will soon be restored :(

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

call to action posted:

Remember when people assumed that we'd at least be trending towards greater climate acceptance/mitigation work as the signs of climate change made themselves obvious? lol


I'm getting on a bit now (48) but I pretty much remember the "we're all gonna die to atom bombs" of the cold war then we went to "we're all gonna die of aids"!! then we went to "OMG global warming... er.. I mean Climate change" then I just kinda gave up & got on with my life coz whatever!!

Not saying it's not real or that it doesn't scare me but at this point I don't think I can do much to help other than try to minimise my energy use & even then, that's just a piss in the ocean :(

Anyway one got any positive ideas for helping that are realistic?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

funkatron3000 posted:

Why wait for the clathrate gun hypothesis to pan out when we can mine the methane and burn it ourselves?

China claims breakthrough in mining 'flammable ice'

LongLeggedMackDaddy posted:

I'm having trouble understanding how these of all people couldn't have seen this coming:

Arctic stronghold of world’s seeds flooded after permafrost melts


Someone please tell me it's gonna be ok in the end....... It kinda feels like we (collectively) are too stupid to survive this.

We know bad things are coming but hey! gently caress it! let's burn more :confuoot:

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Conspiratiorist posted:

It's all just a long con to sell before the real state prices collapse, and then buy cheap right before we start pumping sulfate aerosols into the atmosphere.

You joke.. but check this out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection_(climate_engineering)

& especially this bit:
"Airliners could use lower-quality sulfur-rich fuels on higher altitudes. That approach would utilize regular flights and enable airlines to use cheaper fuels on long-distance flights. It would require using separate fuel tanks for takeoff and landing in populated areas, due to toxicity and olfactory sensations of sulfur oxides. This can be achieved in many airliners without difficulty, since they already have separate and selectable wing and fuselage fuel tanks."

Looks like those 'chemtrail' nutters might not be so far off the mark.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Trabisnikof posted:

Do you have any well cited sources that go into which feedback systems the IPCC AR5 excludes but are now modeled scientifically?

Glad you brought that up, the other guy is making me depressed.
I know things are going to be bad & there's no denying it, I just kinda hold out hope that my kids are going to be ok.

I don't know enough about all this so I'm like a 'battered housewife' for this thread, I know its bad for me, but I keep coming back.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

NewForumSoftware posted:

You honestly shouldn't read the thread if these sorts of thoughts are running through your head




But please, tell me why I'm the insane one here.


"Modern technology" is a huge umbrella and obviously we're not going to lose all of it. There are things that we have that are incredibly reliant on things like global supply chains and cheap electricity that will probably stop being economically viable as time goes on. Or at least will change drastically from what we know today. Things like transportation, food, etc.

This is why your making me depressed mate.. because I think your probably right.

Not knocking you for speaking somewhere close to the truth though.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Minge Binge posted:

*ahem* Actually, I've been to Cuba. I was there for two weeks on a trip with my family. And we thought it would be cool to have a bbq on the beach so my brother went to the market to get some burgers but the market didn't have burgers so we couldn't have a bbq and had to have dinner in the resort. disgusting. no way can fight climate change like this. I'll wait till invent fusion thank you very much

I dont want to be a complete git but....... this is the most '1st world' problem I've ever seen - boo hoo!! I cant have a bbq coz I cant get burgers.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Trabisnikof posted:

A big reason is that at the beginning of the environmental movement we had very limited controls on landfills and often picked the most environmentally destructive places we could to stick them. Like the wetlands or on top of the drinking water aquifer. A large number of superfund and NPL sites are industrial landfills for that reason.

Add on top the idea that important cultural change that landfills are where trash goes, rather than just "disappearing" when the trash truck takes it away. Waste doesn't disappear it has to go somewhere and landfills are an easy to understand symbol of that. Plus landfills are a common intersection of social and environmental justice, if we need a new landfill we're not going to stick it where rich people can smell it.

Also landfills with a lot of organic waste are usually big producers of greenhouse gasses.

We've got a landfill near us & can confirm it does stink.. In the winter the junk that gets blown around the surrounding area is amazing. The water run off is especially disgusting & surrounding streams are horrible.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

AceOfFlames posted:

You know what honestly gnaws at me? My father is CONSTANTLY going to climate-related conferences. At least one a year! And he says NOTHING to me, or my mom, nothing. My mom goes with him but doesn't understand English so she has no idea if the people around her are despairing or not. I wish I had the courage to ask him what the hell is going on but I can't. And from the little he does say, apparently they think they can cope just fine, or at the very least "this will only affect poor people". What kind of charade are these people living in?

Ask him mate.. He might be putting on a brave front & secretly be making GBS threads himself.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

dex_sda posted:

The only solution to turning our lush planet slightly less hospitable is to permanently settle in a 2.7 Kelvin void.

It's probably going to a lot less hospitable for the poor's but yep I think your right, it's going to take a biblical scale disaster for the rich to notice.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Yeah, even a completely selfish dictator might do what from the outside seems altruistic, if it supports his own goals. Sure, if he was going for a pure "Let's just loot everything" approach he might be better off with some other plan, but he could also be looking out for his legacy. I mean, having people remember you as the "Glorious Leader who made China #1 again" might be worth the sacrifice of a few yachts. Assuming here that his current strategy can't be used to both make him more money, and make him look good, which is of course not certain either.

If the guy gets rich while saving the world (hypothetically) I don't mind.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

ErichZahn posted:

You severely overestimate silicon valley.

Depends on how quickly this all happens, give it 50 years or so & I'm pretty sure we will have full on terminator style autonomous robotic soldiers.

I've seen this driving around, admittedly there's a passenger in the driving seat but it gets around Oxford fine.
http://ori.ox.ac.uk/application/robotcar/

I can only imagine what the military have done with this.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

noyes posted:

goats rule

I had a pet goat when I was a kid & can confirm this :)

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

enraged_camel posted:

:gizz:

hell yeah, death is coming

On a scale from 1-10, how hosed are we?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

golden bubble posted:

A lot of that is probably just the old belief that there is a cure for cancer. But cancer, or uncontrolled cell replication, is not a single disease. It is like finding a single fix for "my car engine will not crank when I try to start it." But the whole war on cancer basically assumes there is a single fix for uncontrolled cell replication.

From what I understand that's more of a 'public misconception', medical professionals know that.
Or at least the medical researchers I know are aware of that.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
Some slightly good news from the UK on the food front.
http://vegnews.com/articles/page.do?pageId=10557&catId=1

It's a shame most of those veggies get transported halfway round the world... but baby steps :)

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

where did you get the secret presidential tapes from?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

El Laucha posted:

Was just coming here to post this.

I hate this timeline.

Assuming you were talking to someone who skimmed the article & even then thought 'crap'

In layman's terms, how bad is this?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

DesperateDan posted:

Positive tiny useless anecdote time! Cheer yourself an iota! Ignore the impending doom a bit!

The bit of land I manage (south east uk) as one of my jobs is seeing a good year for bumblebees and other bees/small insects so far despite the previous cold snap, good encouragement to keep working on maintaining habitats for them.

I'm in the Didcot/Oxford area & have seen quite a few bumblebee's today :)

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

If you are curious about tipping points and exponential uncertainty start with Shakhova et. al. If you're tired of reading hilariously bad Arkane posts about AR6 ask him to provide a breakdown of what he thinks the SSP/RCP outcome matrix is going to look like for a good barrel of laughs.

I googled a few articles & stopped, some very depressing stuff if I'm reading it right?

http://arctic-news.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/the-mechanism.html
"This ice has until now acted as a glue, holding the sediment together. Moreover, the ice in the cracks has until now acted as a barrier, a seal, that prevented the methane contained in those sediments from escaping."

On a scale of 1 to 10, how fast is my slide into alcoholism going to be?
(only half joking)

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
The UK currently has wild fires going on.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-44634023

Granted its nothing like you get in the states but it's pretty big news here & last time I remember it happening was in the 70's.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Pander posted:

well okay I guess that settles that then

*blows brains out*

I got pretty depressed about it too... once you realise this guys right, it gets a lot better.

Shifty Nipples posted:

More like do what you do until either there are enough people to force political action or governments decide it's time to change.

Just do what you can, don't be an arsehole to others & enjoy your life.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Shifty Nipples posted:

We don't get a second chance at life and I'm sorry reality is just too difficult for you to cope with.

I'm kinda with Shifty Nip's on this one...

The outlook does not seem to be good long term & that gives me nightmare's, but Humans have always had to struggle & that's why we've got to where we are, a comparative 'age of plenty' compared to the rest of history.

As an individual there's not much to be done other than follow the advice previously posted in the thread & enjoy the ride, i.e. your life & hope we come through this latest challenge. The alternative is depression & that's not going to help .

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

sitchensis posted:

Wasn't there an infamous news conference with a stoic looking scientist who actually started to cry a bit when describing the sheer number of methane craters her research team had discovered in the Arctic ocean?

Here you go..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx1Jxk6kjbQ

Your not going to sleep well tonight if you watch that...

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
1969 UK kid chiming in here.... assuming I make it my 70's which will be around 2040.

How much do you think things will have changed? I'm leaning towards massively but don't know the specifics of how much & in what ways.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
I had a smart meter fitted today, I was pretty happy looking at it & it was about 80p of electric used over about 4 hours..... I thought not bad considering all the crap the kids have running.

Then I found the Co2 used bit.... apparently those 4 hours produced 2.19Kg of Co2... that took the smile off my face a bit.

we are so hosed if we carry on like this.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:

lol

Yes, they totally don't have security details :rolleyes:


Haha if you think that's a lot, an airplane trip is on the order of .15 kg PER person PER mile, so flying for 4 hours means each person on the plane is responsible for about 240 kg

I do think its a lot. I try to live as eco friendly as I can i.e. public transport, dont fly, eat minimal amounts of meat & only use a car now & then.... etc.. even then it's just a piss in the ocean :(

That stat you've posted is frightening...

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

friendbot2000 posted:

There is profit to be made. CO2 is in a TON of products like carbonated beverages, Bar equipment, too many to count really. Basically, they sell off the CO2 they capture to companies. Also, they are partnered with a greenhouse company and are shipping off the excess CO2 to use in their greenhouses to increase crop yields.

I think I must be missing something...

If it's going to be used in carbonated drinks & pumped into greenhouses, wont the CO2 just end up back in the atmosphere?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Flip Yr Wig posted:

The effect would be to make the production of CO2 products more carbon neutral than other extraction methods. Obviously it would be far preferable to actually sequester captured CO2, but that would require massive public investment.

Don't get me wrong I think it's a great start but it seems insane to use loads of energy to capture CO2 only to release it again.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1009698/UK-weather-forecast-latest-hot-Met-Office-forecast-long-range-forecast-heat-September-2018

I know it's a lovely source but if anyone's even talking about hot weather in the UK til christmas things have got to be a little strange...

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Trabisnikof posted:

lol nah most of them will live out lives of pleasant luxury.

This is the truth... there will be some 'elysium' type poo poo going on, it'll be enclaves of rich people instead of space stations but it'll be the same idea.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
Has anyone else seen this?
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change-paris-agreement-permafrost-melting-carbon-emissions-a8541686.html


It looks like its going to happen a lot quicker than previously thought.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Rime posted:

There are worse things than a clathrate gun coming out now.

Synopsis: researching finds lake boiling with methane in the Arctic, studies it to find out source. Plot twist: its not from permafrost clathrates melting, but from fossil fuel deposits being uncovered directly.

Unsurprisingly this is a huge loving deal, since such deposits potentially hold more methane than clathrates and will release it much, much much faster.

Fun times!

I posted earlier about its happen faster than previously thought. Sounds like it's been upped a notch....

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
I'm nearly 50 now so will avoid the worst of it but the next couple decades will be interesting.

I find it all a bit surreal, it's almost like the restaurant at the end of the universe & we have front row seats.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Rip Testes posted:

Further down in the article:


How economically viable is a polar Silk Road in relation to the number and location of sea ports expected to be lost due to sea level rise?

I'm pretty sure we all know in our hearts it's all smoke & mirrors now.
Enjoy life as you can, prepare for it to get harder & enjoy the ride is about the only option left.

I live in good old Brexit Britain... I've started learning about how to live off the land, probably a few years too late but come rationing at least I'll have a fighting chance.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

StabbinHobo posted:

no you wont, idiot

more than likely true but it helps me sleep at night.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Nice piece of fish posted:

We're basically going to stupid ourselves to death. It's very frustrating.

Seems a fitting quote for humanity.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Tollymain posted:

can we just gather the political will to seize the assets of the wealthy and use them to power glorious socialism already so we can start actually doing something about this

In order to give the grandson a better future I'm right behind you.

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Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

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ChairMaster posted:

I'm not criticizing the IPCC, I'm making fun of the people who take every opportunity they can to pretend like everything is okay, including completely ignoring the fact that every scientific report on every subject relating to climate change looks worse and worse every few years, but these people refuse to see the pattern and insist that everything is going to be okay.

I think he was just joking mate, I got what you meant & I'm dumb.

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