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Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Psion posted:

One of Sydney's pager response lines is singing Rick Astley to the Gensec dude on the other end :allears:

Yeah, Sydney's pretty great when you can hear her.

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Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Hobold posted:

Saw an ad on my phone a bit ago, seemed to look familiar. I wonder why.



The most irritating thing about it is that title graphic keeps kicking my rear end. And apparently in the actual name there's a hyphen between empire and war?

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


jivjov posted:

woohoo! No more microtransactions in Payday 2!

And nothing about the game changed. Again.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


I would figure optimization would refer more to the patching process.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


juliuspringle posted:

I still don't understand what the hell dodge is.

It's the chance that a cop shoots you, but it doesn't count.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


So I haven't been paying too much attention to the minutia of changes in skills and builds lately. I played with a couple of friends earlier and my friend who is the best of us in raw skill kept falling down like crazy, which is pretty irregular. He primarily copied his old build that focused on Armorer, fat suit, and basically any armor bonus he could get. Is there a better way he could be building for durability?

My setup of fat suit + muscle seems about the same as it used to, so I wonder if he was just unlucky.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Dr. Fishopolis posted:

Inevitable steam sale question, is this game worth $5 bucks? Moreover, is the GOTY pack worth $12.50?

Yes and go with GOTY pack. Somebody in this thread (maybe OP) has a list of best to worst DLCs if you want to add on after that

E: yes, in the OP

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Dr Cheeto posted:

At the very least if a goon does something stupid you can post a .gif of it here and people will laugh at them.

Or a video!

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


AF posted:

Got back into this after a very long break to see what all the commotion on Steam was about. Quick question: is GoonHud still being actively worked on? I've got it waiting in game for an update.

Also, I only infamy'd once in my 200 hours of gameplay (just wasn't interested in going higher) and pugs think I'm a free2player/kick me on sight :downs:

It's GoonMod these days, but yes, it's maintained. Also, play with goons.

e:

InequalityGodzilla posted:

Hooooly poo poo, is it really that simple? if I'd known that I'd have done it long ag-

-oddammit :negative:

Don't listen to Lemon-Lime, they've been repeating that lie for a while. SAM absolutely works.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


AF posted:

I was just running hox breakout ad nauseum to hit infamy four so I didn't feel the need to hit up goons. I'll get back on CTS sometime. Do we have an ETA for GoonMod to become compatible again? Don't mean to be pushy, I just miss not having to hold E for everything. And the corpse despawn limiter.

It's compatible right now. Just tell it to force load in the GoonMod options and restart the game. Wilko just does that as a precaution. 95+% of the time it's perfectly fine.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


UnknownMercenary posted:

And add a lot more police snipers.

Do you work for Lion Game Lion?

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Wilko posted:

I got hired a few months ago! And then moved over 2 months ago to actually work on stuff

That's awesome, you're awesome. Congrats!

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Uh, C is the only correct and good key for crouch.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


SaffronKit posted:

After years of playing TF2 and other source games, I really can't use any button other than ctrl for crouch. It just feels awkward taking my thumb off the space bar.

Basically ctrl crouch for life.

For me, I leave control open so I can use it as my push-to-talk key in whatever program I'm using for voice chat.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


averox posted:

New trailer time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZPM3kkxkIE

It's just the poo poo console players haven't gotten yet.
Not sure whether to :laugh: or :cry:

The correct answer is, of course, :laugh:

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


BillmasterCozb posted:

I cant wait to have a hybrid of a hellish tape recorder emporium and a mountain of coke

edit: I found out something today, and that is that if you're carrying a bag and walking forward while looking down, you'll start walking to the right. Here's an example.

And if you look up, you go to the left

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


I'll take a spare hat code if any are to be had.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


averox posted:

It certainly shows how petty the community of this game is at large. People are loving mad that they can't get a hat for this game.

My favorite part was people complaining that they didn't have safehouse customization when the party hats started. You know, what the whole "housewarming" thing is ostensibly about (unless I've misread things horribly).

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


quote:

Mr.Hoxton 2 minutes ago
This 10 days are around 2.5(between 1 and 5).That means they are like ,,meeeeeeeh,ok'' like you always do Overkill.When you release let say ,,decent,, content you ask money for it,but when you make a few changes and adding some lovely masks,new enemy(stop loving copy-paste TF2),a new safe(really?-_-),new safe house(that should have been released much more earlyer,so dont expect to much gratitude),and the rest,you expect to keep us ,,Hot,, well then you are wrong,you gonna go down someday,dont belive what i say just read this comment when that day comes.


P.S.The person who camed with ,,Mutators,, day can go gently caress himself/herself
And only if you take ,,PAYDAY The Heist,, missions and put them in ,,PAYDAY 2,,THAT IS A loving REMAKE OR REBUILD YOU ASSHOLES.GIVE US REAL FREE CONTENT NOT SHITS LIKE THAT.

gently caress you and your garbage tier free content Overkill! I want good and free stuff! :qqsay:

Also all those commas are causing me physical pain.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


shut up blegum posted:

What? No, I meant I completed Ukrainian job and gained so much exp that it took forever for the game to tell me which guns etc I unlocked.

And if someone else would have hosted it could have been skipped instead of forcing you to wait.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


shut up blegum posted:

Ah OK, didn't know that. Will think about this next time :)

Right. Obviously not a big deal, just a convenience thing if you don't want to wait. I usually just wait it out because I'm typically alone during my first few post-infamy heists.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Discendo Vox posted:

God loving drat it, they've just removed safehouse nightmare with no advance notice. I still didn't have it done on Mayhem.

Why don't they just make it permanent at this point? While the game will still be around for a while, it doesn't make much sense for a game this old to only periodically allow some content (especially if it's tied to achievements).

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Grapplejack posted:

I don't care for Sydney's delivery on her medic kill lines, they're really grating.

On the other hand, she has bitchin' gloves. Clover's still my favorite.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


pigeonchest bill posted:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/ccmm20/

Add me if you're dtf (down to freemaskreceive)

Added as Explosionface

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


HebrewMagic posted:

also, love me the pubbie comment I just read on the Scarface announcement on Steam: "It's xmas, this should be free, don't rob us"
like, what the living gently caress

Well, having paid money for the game content before all future content should be free because

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Crabtree posted:

Oh well. Did the emails for Sydney come yet? I donated to it but I'm not seeing anything so far.

I just got mine

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Discendo Vox posted:

Thankfully, my plan to introduce an elemental resistance system-
*begins trying to lift gigantic posterboard chart onto folding tripod*

Before you get too carried away, has it tested well internally?

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


So I can't load the site right now. What guns did they add?

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Lynx posted:

The Bizon, Dragunov, and AK-400.

poo poo, I might have to reinstall just for dicking around with the bizon

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Coolguye posted:

shamma lamma ding dong



e: i just thought looking at a smiling puppy would help focus discussion since it's all so negative right now

That's not working for me. I need cute parrots instead.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


I'm still waiting for :krad: 80's guns

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


I demand a BAR

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


I only played a short session solo on normal (as assault), but here's how I feel about RAID so far.

Yeah, it seems like where RAID is currently failing is vague areas relating to feel. The graphics give the impression of a 2009 era game instead of something more recent. Not that they have to be stunning, but the game just looks old.

Then there's the gunfeel, or rather, lack thereof. I just don't feel like I'm getting any real feedback about what the guns are doing. The M1 carbine feels like it's a pea shooter with no recoil but the bullets fly everywhere, so it starts giving flashbacks of Ubersoldier 2 (which is not a compliment) and the broomhandle feels useless at any range beyond an arm's length. The good news is that these are all quite fixable and I'm hoping Overkill can offer assistance in the gunfeel department.

I do like the sense I get of the mechanics overall. Things feel more tight in terms of objectives while allowing me to wander around like an idiot if I choose. Not just bag moving simulator 2000. Although it would be nice to find some loot.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Yardbomb posted:

In an almost positive way, at least the biggest gripes for RAID keep seeming to be "But the game doesn't look super amazing" which I can deal with because I like being able to play games on my middling computer and then people going apeshit over the german version stuff, a bunch of them not even german and just using it as an opportunity to whine about their political puke. The gameplay has kind of warmed up on me and mostly I want to see how things do progress with the weapons and all that on damage and difficulty.

Yeah, everything I see wrong is easily fixable, so I'm still positive about it on the whole.

e: and almost on cue, there's a patch. More damage, customization, characters go to level 10, and a new mission

Explosionface fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Sep 2, 2017

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Discendo Vox posted:

Bear in mind it's an actual beta, not just a pseudo beta promotion. The devs have been completely reworking things with each update, and the game is already way better than it was when this started.

A lot of the design is built off of payday 1, rather than 2- or is entirely its own thing.

Yeah, there's still work to be done, but the game is already better than what it started as. Especially because they gave me the ability to use a BAR.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


I went ahead and started goofing around in this again the other day. Just low difficulty soloing. Trying out different weapons and heists I haven't seen before, including the Brothers Grimm. HOLY poo poo I'M IN LOVE.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Yeah, I feel like in order to have a good proper boss fight in Payday 2, it would literally have to be a Metal Gear Rex or something.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Say what you will about RAID, at least you can still loving buy it unlike OTWD.

This is an interesting time to be practicing necromancy, Overkill. I'm interested what they even plan to do. Give me the crazy 80s guns I've always wanted and they can have more money from me, that's for sure.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


punishedkissinger posted:

Finally got a couple of friends together and we've been having a blast. Ran St. Martin on Overkill and cleared every single safe deposit box. Feels good.

Is it possible to do Diamond Store with 100% stealth? Seems like an alarm always goes off, even after taking out every guard and getting the keypad.

Civilian genocide is always the answer to Diamond Store.

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Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


punishedkissinger posted:

Do the civvies walking the sidewalk respawn?

Unless things have changed in the past couple years, there are only x number than spawn in, so once you ice all of them, you're set.

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