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K. Waste posted:Exactly, but with great power comes great responsibility, which means that the bedrock of 'family' is not the greatest value. It reminds me of Godzilla '14 in that way.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:There is a direct correlation to how good Eva Green is in something to how explicit her sex scenes are. Was Kingdom of Heaven (DC) that tame?
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Jun 30, 2016 16:58
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MeatwadIsGod posted:The Rachel stuff carrying into Rises was the only part of it I found weird. The Dark Knight has Bruce totally despondent after she dies and he's unwilling to be Batman if it means other people get killed. Alfred is basically all "stiff upper lip, Master Bruce" and convinces him that Gotham has to make do with him and he has to soldier on. But then he's squarely back in extended mourning and isolation in Rises. Probably a more realistic depiction of grief so maybe I'm being too hard on it, it just seemed to run counter to how that development was resolved in The Dark Knight. The impression I got was he was run down from being Batman for so many years without any success.
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Aug 15, 2016 18:13
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MeatwadIsGod posted:It may have been that. He wasn't Batman for very long, as far as I could tell. A few months in Begins, an indeterminate amount of time between Begins and The Dark Knight, maybe a couple months in The Dark Knight and then the hiatus. The Dark Knight does seem to imply he's been active long enough to have frequent interactions with Gordon since "he often doesn't" show up when the signal is lit, and the signal is introduced at the end of Begins. All three movies together give me the impression that his career as Batman was like two years tops. The scene with Bruce at the doctor's office made it seem like he had built up years and years of injuries so I think by DKR he had been at it for a while.
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Aug 15, 2016 18:33
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:The problem is that if you read DC comic books from, I dunno, 1990-2010 then you probably read well over a dozen stories that were specifically about how Batman never kills and never uses guns. Entire story arcs that spanned multiple titles were all about how the heroes can never, ever kill anyone. Wonder Woman killed one dude, who absolutely had to die, and it almost resulted in the permanent disbanding of the Justice League. The entire basis behind the character of Huntress is that she doesn't mind using lethal force and Batman will not allow that in his city. The entire Under the Red Hood arc is all about how Batman wouldn't kill the Joker. It's stated outright multiple times in Batman comics that if Batman were to ever kill someone, Gordon would immediately take charge of the task force to hunt Batman down. There's probably well over a dozen panels where Batman rolls up on someone with a gun and gets right in their face and says "I don't like guns" before loving them up. The supremely badass moment in Batman/Superman comics where Batman dons a sword and starts loving up Doomsday clones that aren't technically alive would make no sense if Batman was already lethal. If there are so many of those stories why do you want yet another one?
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Aug 17, 2016 17:23
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:This is a silly question. Apply it to any other characters. "Do you really want to see the turtles take on Shredder AGAIN?" If I want to see that I have a ton of media to choose from. The first movie is probably the best version we're gonna get. I'd rather see unique takes on the characters than the same poo poo over and over and over.
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Aug 17, 2016 17:34
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I wasn't describing "my batman" I was describing the Batman presented to us from over 20 years of comic book/animated media. Sorry I forgot to mention the detective thing, but that would be a silly reason to discount my entire argument. Why is it stupid there and not stupid to have an arbitrary no killing rule in some(not all) of the comics? If people actually cared about it why are only weirdo comic book elitists the only ones upset about it?
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Aug 17, 2016 17:35
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:rather than just asking "why is taste?" I guess it's a good thing I never said that.
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Aug 17, 2016 17:55
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:The only way I can see to read your comment as meaning anything else is if it's some kind of plea for originality, but that suggests that the problem with 20 years of Batman comics is lack of originality rather than its ideological commitment, which I think is secondary if it's true at all. This is what I was getting at: MacheteZombie posted:
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Aug 17, 2016 18:32
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I didn't use the word punish. But if you were to use the word kill, there are a lot of people that would argue that its not ok for the government to kill people. The government uses killing as a form of punishment.
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Aug 17, 2016 18:45
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I don't understand why so many people here condone murder. And that I'm considered the crazy one for not condoning murder. Murder is wrong. Giving Batman/Superman/Green Arrow a free pass to kill whoever they want is lunacy. What happens when they kill someone not-so-bad? The portrayal of extreme, condoned violence without consequence is what I take issue with.
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Aug 20, 2016 14:09
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loving Beetlejuice is going to be Batman?! gently caress you Warner Bros.
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Aug 20, 2016 22:47
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Finally aikido is useful for something other than comedy.
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Aug 20, 2016 22:53
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The name 'Martha' is repeated because that was the father's last word, marking his failure to protect the family. This dovetails nicely with Lex trying to relive his childhood by recreating his father as Doomsday. Batman and Lex are both trapped by their traumatic childhoods and can/will not move past it.
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Aug 21, 2016 00:17
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Saying atoms are abstract is one of the most baffling things I've ever read. Like I don't even know where to start with that.
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Aug 22, 2016 02:12
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Sir Kodiak posted:It's a theory that produces great predictions, but it's silly to treat the story that goes along with the math as somehow representing some fundamental reality. If you have no idea what you're talking about you should probably stop talking.
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Aug 22, 2016 02:52
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Maybe Batman needs a senate hearing too. That's basically what Clark was trying to do.
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Aug 23, 2016 01:41
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MacheteZombie posted:Batman doesn't defeat Doomsday. He does save Space Jesus's Earth Mom, the Virgin Martha, though. He hits Doomsday in the face with a Kryptonite grenade, he helps.
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Aug 25, 2016 17:20
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It made him immobile long enough for that to happen. Princess Diana wouldn't have been able to hold on to him without it.
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Aug 25, 2016 17:43
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:"Interrogate" Advanced interrogation techniques right?
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Aug 26, 2016 00:55
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That shot reminds me of buff Jesus breaking the cross.
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Sep 3, 2016 21:43
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Movie would have been way better if Bane was sending Bruce a bunch of call-outs videos. https://youtu.be/wL6aDrzs3Fs
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Sep 6, 2016 04:04
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Schwarzwald posted:No, it makes perfect sense. Men already have access to a dick (their own), while woman do not. With the imbalance in the population that is no longer an issue.
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Sep 10, 2016 02:39
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computer parts posted:Trank's issue was that he shittalked his bosses when his bosses knew everyone else in the industry. And Snyder's movies make money.
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Sep 13, 2016 22:35
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I'm guessing BvS made a lot of its budget back before it was even released just like Man of Steel.
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Sep 13, 2016 23:04
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Yeah there's definitely not anything going on in the news right now involving police officers using lethal force. Is your gimmick to always miss the point of everything?
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Sep 14, 2016 15:43
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CelticPredator posted:Is Batman not killing a part of his character or not? I mean established beyond movies and cartoons? Has that idea ever been referenced in the comics? It isn't some ironclad rule like a few of you pretend it is. Nobody except weirdly fetishistic nerds care about it.
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Sep 21, 2016 18:42
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CelticPredator posted:So it should be understandable why people get upset about it. Like let them bitch their boring points. Every writer has their vision of Batman. No Batman is the same. The people who complain about it in BvS have to actively ignore the plethora of other media in which he kills. It is an idiotic hill to die on. They don't even care about the who or why, they only care that he does.
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Sep 21, 2016 18:51
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:It's referenced in the comics repeatedly. There's no mystery about it at all, comics Batman has explicitly said he is against killing. Most of Batman's biggest character arcs revolve completely around this indisputable fact. But, I guess I'm just a weirdly fetishistic nerd for noticing that the past 30 years of Batman comics has established this. The past 30 years of Batman movies do not have that dumb rule. So, yes, you are a weird fetishist for demanding Batman have a no kill rule no matter the circumstance.
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Squinty posted:I'd probably combine the crate-shot and the grenade shot. You are being willfully dense at this point.
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Sep 21, 2016 23:15
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Drifter posted:Willfully? I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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Sep 21, 2016 23:49
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The reason Batman is suddenly objectionable is that we're now seeing him from Superman's point of view. Superman says Batman is a bad person, and he means it. Fans are driven insane. "Civil liberties are being trampled on in your city; good people living in fear."
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Sep 22, 2016 05:49
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Grendels Dad posted:Is Linkin Park still a thing? I want them to do the theme song. I can already hear it, soft urgent rapping and then the guy who always screams the chorus screams "Go GOOOOOO POWER RANGERS" Are you Brazilian?
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Oct 9, 2016 18:52
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It wants so hard to be the Wire but doesn't understand what made the Wire good.
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Oct 10, 2016 02:30
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Crion posted:especially its absolute veneration of the beat cop. I don't want to derail the thread anymore about the Wire but it does not do this at all.
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Oct 10, 2016 13:44
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:was anyone else expecting the big reveal to be that he had ironman armour? Yes, the power glove gave it away. The suit also looked really silly.
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Oct 11, 2016 22:00
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It's steroids.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:25
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RBA Starblade posted:IIRC that's just dehydration before shoots to make the muscles look like they're bulging more than they already are. It's steroids.
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Slugworth posted:Wolverine or Jackman? Wolverines been alive since like the 1800s or something, so probably not. Jackman, time will tell, but also unlikely. He's probably talking about the scars Wolverine has since he isn't supposed to get those.
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