mrfishstick posted:

About a half hour worth of Open World Gameplay with the English Dub and English commentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17V2lxzlTRE

I only skimmed through it but they showed off the death system which seems pretty bonkers

When you die your old body is dropped in the world similar to a souls game and you are uploaded into a new body but can go find your old boy and either salvage it for parts or attempt to repair it and it'll become an ally for some length of time. A cool twist on the souls system it looks like

Tomie knows me posted:

Hah, my game just softlocked after finishing the factory for the second time and returning to the resistance camp. Hadn't gotten to save after that boss. Cool! Anyone else get one of these?

punk rebel ecks posted:

So did anybody beat this game yet? Or is it very long?

dazat posted:

I also have a back story-related question: I may have missed it, but did the game say where the true androids, the ones who engineered the YoRHa system in order to boost morale, live? On other space satellites?

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I think there were real androids at some-point as, for example, Devola and Popola units predate the machine war(s), but eventually, the machine lifeforms and YoRHa were essentially exactly the same and had the same goals and objectives.


I just got the platinum the legit way without buying any trophies and it was excellent fun. I think I'll start up a new save pretty soon.

fadam posted:

Is there a really OP weapon or spell config you guys would recommend for speeding through Nier? The game isn't very hard but I'd like to optimize things I guess.

Jack Trades posted:

How does Nier: Autobutta stack up to MGR when it comes to game length, enemy/level variety and boss count?

Artelier posted:

I finished ending A and never found any trader that sold combat bracers. If I was supposed to have already found the trader, spoil me who/where it is.

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

I'm I gonna need to collect all the weapons for endings C and D by the way?

I'm kinda used to it but I'm gonna feel silly buyin all these weapons if I don't actually need to.

Marogareh posted:

So in route B can anyone tell me how to hijack bots?. I've done it once and only once and the rest of the time they always explode.

Marogareh posted:

Guess I got the timing wrong because I've tried that a few times and no dice. I'll see if I can do it from a mile away next time.

Trick Question posted:

Man, just beat it. Endings a-e, and a spattering of others. Game good.

I'm a little bit lost on where to start with post-game stuff, though. Is it reasonable to find all the quests/weapons/endings without looking up a guide online?

8-Bit Scholar posted:

This game's story is really good, and it touches on a whole variety of themes in really interesting ways. Even moreso than its predecessor, I think Nier:Automata will be a game that really explores a wide range of very deep human emotions and concepts. Full game spoilers from here on out:

The fact that the war between the androids and machines is blatantly pointless is a clear statement on Taro's overall sentiments towards war and violence. There is no way for this war to ever be won by anybody, and at the point where the game begins the only people invested in maintaining the battle are the Commander and the leaders of the Machine Network. Average Machines, and an increasing amount of disconnected machines, do not care about the war and understand it even less than the androids do.

I think it's very interesting that the alien-built machines want to try and imitate humans, not their alien masters. In fact, there's barely any evidence of alien culture in the design or behavior of the machine lifeforms, to the point where had we not seen actual dead aliens in an alien spaceship, I'd be truly skeptical that there even WERE aliens. The alien invasion seems to be a very overt red herring, but I can't help but feel like there's a larger message being made here. Humanity going extinct is blamed on Devola and Popola, even though I had thought it was Grimoire Weiss's failure to merge with his counterpart that was the actual Big gently caress Up in Nier 1. Still, if the stated canon is the canon to be taken to heart, you can argue that both the machines and the androids inevitably killed their creators.

It ties in with the opening statement about killing God. If you look at life and death as a problem of being perpetually trapped in a bleak and pointless world, then the presence of a supreme being who oversees that, your creator, would be an intolerable offense. It's a kind of Buddhist concept gone to a murderous degree. Both the machines and the androids actually killed their god, and the result is them both living aimless lives whose only meaning seems to come from conflict. Even though we see that peace rejectinand harmony can function, ultimately both sides choose war and die for it.

It seems clear that the machines are self-replicating, so even with the destruction of the Tower I have no reason to doubt that the machine race will continue to exist on Earth as its new dominant species. Interestingly, now that A2 has created a schism in the Machine Network, will that ultimately create the cycle of war and violence anew? If so, that's kind of hilarious--even without the androids, the machines are quite capable of sustaining this state of eternal war forever.

I think that's what makes Pascal such a heartbreaking figure, because he represents an eventual hope that the machines could change from within. The fact that he is ultimately betrayed by his own kind, not by androids, is significant. Also, he detests violence, but in a fiery need to protect the children of his tribe, he embraces bloodshed and actively seeks to kill, but the reward for his violence is only more death. Indeed, he may be right to blame himself: the children's last sight of their beloved Uncle Pascal was him shouting that he would smash and kill all their enemies. Their whole world has been destroyed, and the one constant source of peace in their world has gone berserk. By rejecting his principles, Pascal loses everything he had worked to build.

I think that's why it's fitting to leave him to live with it. It's a pity the game treats this as a "bad" state, since there's no scene to follow-up on that choice. I wonder if there will be a DLC in that regard?

Either way, that's just the tip of the iceburg. This game is incredible, the storytelling especially so, and it elegantly explores a variety of themes and concepts without feeling heavy-handed.

fadam posted:

Spoilers for C:

When it asks you to monitor A2 or 9S does it matter what you pick/when? I've had to pick twice now and I went with A2 both times.

Jack Trades posted:

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Overall plot as I'm rolling it around in my head and trying to make sense of some of it as... I was kinda overwhelmed when I beat it. Spoilers for the whole game.

So the timeline is something along the line of this right?

Nier blows up Shadowlord and fucks everyone in the process. Gestalts and Replicants go extinct and humanity is just flat out gone minus a handful of brainscans and some DNA samples. A set of Dev and Pop androids shoot that information to the moon hoping that would somehow help keep the memory of humans alive.

Aliens see Earth and come to it for... some reason? They send machines out to clean up and the androids humanity left behind are getting wiped- Emil uses shadow clone jutsu to make like a mountain of clones to try and fight them back but ultimately fail due to once again, reasons.

Androids knowing that humanity is extinct pretty much give up.

The machines however learn about humans and become obsessed. To evolve they'd have to face conflict, so they kill their alien masters and form YorHa giving Androids purpose once again. The bunker is built and better, stronger androids are built with the sole purpose to make machines better through conflict. None of the androids know this and continue fighting the war hoping to do the non-existent humanity proud. Then the game takes place.

Anyone mind clearing up what I might of gotten wrong?

lets hang out posted:

I don't think the machines made yorha. Why would they consider building androids from machine cores the more humane option? Seems more to me like androids created yorha and built in the backdoor for the machines to eventually destroy it, and the machines just played along because it worked to their benefit too.

Trick Question posted:

Alright, I was having a bit of trouble filling out my quests, so I googled it.

I apparently managed to completely miss a mandatory one? improving communications. I just never got it.

It says it's part of the story and it's early on in the game, but it ain't in my quest log. Anyone know what's up?

Also, I'm having trouble getting a certain character to show up after I took some stuff from their house. Is that scripted, or do I just need to hope they randomly show up?

Trick Question posted:

I get that. I just can't get him to spawn after I interact with the mask, after combing the ruined city and leaving to reset it several times. If I go to another chapter he shows up in, I can easily get him to spawn up to that point.

fadam posted:

Ok, I just got Ending E. Are the rest of the endings (basically F-Z) just the jokey ones for loving around?

fadam posted:

EDIT: Minor spoilers for each playthrough Is there any way to get into the Bunker the Apologetic Machine is guarding in the desert? Whats in there?

InnercityGriot posted:

http://wegotthiscovered.com/gaming/interview-yoko-taro-nier-automata/

Spoilery interview with Taro, don't read it unless you've beaten the game. It's pretty good, you really get an idea of his process for this stuff and mindset in general.

dazat posted:

I got my copy of the World Guide today, I don't know how different it is from the Black Box art book but it's loaded with beautiful art, enemy/location rundowns etc, plus the two bonus short stories I'll translate sometime soon.

In the meantime, I thought you all might be interested in the official heights and weights of the Automata cast:
2B = 5'6 (including heels) 328lb
9S = 5'2 286lb
6O/21O = 5'5 (including heels) 319lb
Commander = 5'8 (including headdress) 368lb
Pods = 2'5 79lb
Anemone = 5'8 354lb
Devola = 5'8 350lb
Popola = 5'8 357lb
Pascal = 8'2 793lb
A2 = 5'6 (including heels) 306lb
Emil = Varies
Adam/Eve = 6'2 502lb

Fat Samurai posted:

I started playing yesterday and the Operator told me about what I guess is fast travel between save points, and that it wasn't ready yet. Should I rush the main story until I get it? Related, is there a point of no return for side quests?

Corte posted:

I have completed route C and do I need to start the game again to gain access to anything else or can it all be done through chapter select?

verbal enema posted:

Uhhh I just remember I had an escort quest go south in Route B.

Did I do it right by not fully completing it before I went into Route C?

Bad Seafood posted:

Please tell me there is a way to make hacking easier, barring lowering the difficulty - or at least tell me there's some way to bolster the amount of hits I can take.

kirbysuperstar posted:

Anyone know what's up with these two quest markers?

http://i.imgur.com/UdjEFMr.png
http://i.imgur.com/eCv09DK.png

Second one is the same place as the Phoenix Dagger, first is the building you land on.

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

I have Emil story questions that I kinda forgot about until now.

Why was he in a robot anyway? Like... is he the only one in one of em? He didn't even know why he was in there himself and that detail is just kind of confusing me in hindsight.

Also isn't he and his clone army TECHNICALLY human? I mean dudes a skeleton ball so maybe it's hard to argue that with the machines/androids but I find it kind of funny that he's the thing androids are trying to protect.

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

I just saw in some fanart for 2b that there are fist weapons in this game? Can you get some fist weapons reasonably fast or is it locked behind a bunch of poo poo?

Manatee Cannon posted:

ok I did this on accident but for real tho, how do you get down. I tried every single button, including holding circle since you get on normal mounts like that, and nothing

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Drakengard and Whole Game (Automata) spoilers

So I forgot most of Drakengard but recently went back and refreshed myself just for kicks and now I'm super loving confused in Automata because of all the callbacks.

I've counted
Ending names: Flowers for a Broken Machine, Flowers for a Broken Spirit
Manah's watcher voice turning into that of a mans. The two girls in red do the same thing.
Watcher!Manah's stupid la la la thing comes back with the Emil copies doing the same thing.

Is the game trying to imply something here? Or is it just call backs.

XavierGenisi posted:

I tried going up against the optional boss Emil, in the cave next to the city crater and holy hell I got my rear end beat. I guess I expected to do more than barely any damage with my melee attack, and zero damage with my fully upgraded laser pod, but I guess that's what I get going into the fight at level 65. What's the best suggestion for getting a ton of EXP? I'm gonna certainly mess with my chips, but I figure it'd be best to actually get close to level 99 to actually have a decent fight on my hands.