TG Crowdfunding Thread 3: Far West has been released. That's not a joke.

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Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Dungeon Crawler has another minis kickstarter up for prepainted minis. The strarter goal is for a tarrasque-esque creature called a behemoth. Their previous miniatures kickstarter was for a similarly sized prepainted kraken and a few accompanying smaller miniatures. I've found the kraken to be of exceptionally high quality and I would recommend the new kickstarter.

Also the campaign is in CAD so the painted behemoth is only 62 USD.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2016 16:15

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 02:29

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Though everyone in the game tends to have really dumb poses, and not dumb as in sexist but just dumb as in "son you gonna fall over".

# ¿ Jun 20, 2016 12:02

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Jedit posted:

I don't know how things are in the States, but in the UK food and clothes are exempt from sales tax. This is what stops it being a de facto regressive tax.

Also, if you think 20% is an absurd rate: it's actually lower than the EU average which is about 22%. Hungary has a 27% VAT rate.

There are a lot more things than food and cloths that are required for life, and it is a regressive tax no matter how you cut it, unless you put a minimum of like 100 dollars at least on it.

Also in the US food is exempt from the sales tax too.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 08:04

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Huh I figured that was a nation wide thing. I guess I just live in one of the 31 not garbage states.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 11:51

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Crackbone posted:

For anybody complaining about VAT, I'd be perfectly happy to trade you as decent medial coverage is 10+% of an average family's net income (and that's not including copays/deductables/etc), our college costs are staggering and force most students into 20K+ of debt, our social services suck rear end, and we jail motherfuckers at the drop of a hat.

But yeah, I save 20% on games.

If you think that American politicians would put increased regressive taxes toward a progressive policy I have a bridge to sell you.

They'd probably do like Texas and eliminate state income tax due to their high sales tax. You know gently caress the poor.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 16:11

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

It's something that I'd we willing to give the benefit of the doubt but if the final product has the same ratios I'll be disappointed.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2016 14:33

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

So in news related to kickstarters that would never be fufilled. I got all my tome of horrors 2 minis. Somehow despite literal bankruptcy and re-acquisition by a different company this product was produced and delivered before Far West.

# ¿ Sep 10, 2016 11:47

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Bieeardo posted:

That's it. I read a piece by him in the aftermath, describing his frustration with the whole Kickstarter experience and how as an artist what he really wanted was patronage, support for making art and not having to worry about print production and all of that crap. I remember scoffing, but if Patreon had come into being a year earlier, things might have turned out differently.

Though the key to a successful patreon is also consistent content creation. No one is going to support you out of the kindness of their hearts, because money without the pressure of needing results is literally what every person on earth wants.

# ¿ Sep 16, 2016 17:17

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Litany Unheard posted:

Doesn't that one webcomic guy get a few grand a month whether he actually produces the pages or not? Fleecing nerds is a stable industry.

He wasn't producing anything before the patreon. They're paying him for tweets, a sense of smug satisfaction, and wrestling commentary. Same thing they paid Spoony for before the wrestling commentary went away and his patreon dried up.

# ¿ Sep 17, 2016 01:01

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

For real reals? That's impressively terrible, but I'd like a source.

# ¿ Sep 17, 2016 07:34

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Maybe we're thinking of different things but the yugioh manga directly involving the card game is in fact the same universe and continuity as the tons of games one. It's just that after volume 1 was done the guy's editor asked him to refocus the series given how popular the cardgame was.

# ¿ Oct 12, 2016 06:19

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demota posted:

There's always Kings of War.

Doesn't that nightmare things faction still need minis?

# ¿ Oct 21, 2016 08:40

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Ominous Jazz posted:

Dang, I would have liked to see that embiggened. Glad they got shut down though.

The guys on the reaper kickstarter forum informed Mirliton pretty much immediately. Those guys watch minis kickstarters like a hawk.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2016 04:00

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Arivia posted:

You prude. How can you live with yourself?

Surrounded by happy anime titty statues, like any red blooded American.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 17:20

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

There might not inherently be anything wrong with it but high school is really overused as a setting for fiction in the modern day, the only other settings that come close are college and the justice system. It's default and safe in the same way Tolkein-esque fantasy is. There is plenty of artistic merit that can be drawn from both and it's plenty easy to justify yourself, but that doesn't change the fact that it is overused and it's fairly rare for anything new to be said about the themes inherent in the setting.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2016 08:14

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I just meant in genre fiction period not necessarily in RPGs, because changing mediums doesn't really do all that much to alleviate genre fatigue if the primary draw of the genre are its themes and supposed relate-ability.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2016 09:12

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Alaois we know you try to be an rear end in a top hat about absolutely everything all the time, but could you just not?

# ¿ Nov 26, 2016 17:15

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Isn't it usually the "don't judge me for my titty game" guys who usually stoop to Red Text first? Somebody here on team kinkshame really dropped the ball in terms of maturity.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2016 05:28

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LeSquide posted:

Number of backers stayed the same but money went down, according to a friend of mine who's been watching it obsessively. It's a pity; they had a livestream of a game being played by two of the playtesters on Vassal, and I think it looks goddamn solid.

However, a lot of people looking at miniatures kickstarters seem to expect incredible deals and freebies, which just wasn't in the cards for The Other Side. I don't know if it was just the time of year that was a mistake, if the market is just poisoned for retailer-friendly products.

That's the thing, why preorder unless there is a tangible bonus to you the consumer?

# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 10:53

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Doodmons posted:

Okay now that people are showing up to say "Me, I paid $1000 for unpainted pieces of plastic" allow me to repeat my question at higher volume with greater incredulity: "Who the gently caress spends $1000 on unpainted plastic barbies?"

Like, if you're doing it for the love of painting grey plastic that's the kind of price point where you might as well buy a 3D printer so you can fabricate and paint literally whatever you like. If you're doing it because you want to play a game then maybe find a game that doesn't lost literally a thousand dollars what the hell are you doing

Most 40k fans have spent well more than 1000 dollars on unpainted plastic barbies. Like by a significant margin. Anytime you see them post a "haul" that has more than 10ish boxes that's more than 1000 dollars usually.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 19:40

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Zanzibar Ham posted:

Why do you guys keep equating buying one game for a thousand dollars to buying 12-20 games that together cost a grand?

For 40k you need to spend more than 1000 to have a single competitive army at list price.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 21:47

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Yeah gently caress if I know why you'd compare it to normal board games but miniatures games for obsessives is its core market. Passion project board games with good but static minis like say Cthulhu Wars or the big Deluxe Ogre set are much much cheaper, but then this isn't a passion project so much as an attempt to become very rich off nerds.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 22:02

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Or in the case of many GW resin products, a product of superior quality for a lot cheaper.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 02:22

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Munchkin is good. It paid for my ultra deluxe edition of OGRE.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 07:27

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

I feel as though my 40k minis gathering dust in the closet are a much greater shame than a munchkin deck or two.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 07:34

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

As far as I can tell nothing, but there's nothing really wrong with making money off games for moms. Now if Munchkin failing would get a new Illuminati edition printed then death to Munchkin, but I doubt that is a real possibility.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 11:05

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S.J. posted:

These sculpts are garbage.

And not a single actual Scylla.

# ¿ Sep 10, 2017 20:36

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Also the comic's website has been run ads that contained viruses multiple times, each time due to the author leaving the website without any sort of oversight or security for weeks at a time. Despite this he frequently posts angry posts about how horrible people are for using adblock on his website. I know this is kinda of a little thing, but it perfectly encapsulates the sort person he is.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2017 01:39

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dwarf74 posted:

I am interested in Kingdom Death minis, but have a few questions.

1. Are they mostly smooth, or a lot of jagged edges?
2. What is the normal diameter of these minis?
3. Will certain chemicals and/or food make the minis deteriorate, or is a clear coating required?
4. How sturdy are the kingdom death minis?

Thank you.

Sorry none of them have a proper flared base. You're going to have toe add that separately.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2017 01:40

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Serf posted:

if you follow this through, then the old men, the faith, and the makers would all be on the side of the regime.

if you recast the faith as like quakers or something, yeah okay i could see that. i don't know of any existing nationalist group that wouldn't immediately side with a regime promising to defend white people from those four groups listed on the poster, so the old men are unsalvageable. the makers would of course be bankrolling the whole operation so that just leaves the party, who are a parody of the people who would be too fragmented to do anything

the concept of "people who get superpowers from mysterious numbers stations fight a fascist regime" but the factions they've come up with are just really dumb

Even if you wanted to have it be "all these groups could turn on you later" the faith could have just been some minority religion that in the West tends to get attacked by fascists like Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Nation of Islam, or any of the other sort that would get herded into camps if the fascists win.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2018 02:11

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Using the anti-fascist side of the Spanish civil war (republicanists, normal socialists, USSR backed tankies, and anarchists) as your base would probably have been the best idea.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2018 02:45

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Except the Combine are also fairly openly fascist analogues and none of the resistance you team up with in Half-Life are unpleasant right wingers. Except maybe Magnuson, though he could just be a normal douche.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2018 05:10

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

You know I could kinda see using militia types and fringe religious weirdos, because well sometimes they have major disagreements over the type of police state that should be run, or their religion is different enough than the ruling party's that they can still be useful in toppling it. But capitalists being against it? What earth does the dude running this live on? Capitalists 100% of the time support fascism. Every single fascist state ever has had unanimous support from its native business sector.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2018 08:38

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Flavivirus posted:

God, it'd be so much better if these were the four branches of the resistance.

So long as liberals are the branch that always betrays you for its own personal safety/comfort you've got yourself a game.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2018 09:14

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

I feel there is an obvious counter-example.

You're right I should have said "near unanimous" but that had the direct support of Krupp and similar large companies that actually controlled the county's private industry.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2018 09:25

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Mors Rattus posted:

It becomes much clearer when considered in the whole ouvre of Gen Urobochi because he goes to the well of 'girls are awful for wanting things' a lot.

Well that's disappointing. I had heard good things about Psycho Pass.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2018 06:48

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

So what's the bad Gen stuff then? I mean aside form Fate/Zero but that really didn't have a chance given that it's a Fate property which means it's 95% exposition by mass.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2018 09:07

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Yeah so at this point I'm still going with Madoka's twin sins being giving us a bunch of terrible imitators and funding more seasons of Monogatari (a show that hates women).

# ¿ Aug 9, 2018 09:48

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

That's all technically true, but it's also just an excuse by weebs to enjoy weird porn. Same as the explanations for American comicbook costumes for women.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 08:18

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 02:29

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Zark the Damned posted:

Wait, ND / SodaPop had goodwill? First I've heard of it...

Looks like I'm going to be suffering my first failure myself, the Dark Age Outpost. Creator seems to have gone silent and previous updates were about how he was getting screwed over by the mould makers drastically increasing their fees from the original quotes. AFAIK it hasn't even entered production yet and is years late.

same

# ¿ Aug 14, 2018 19:37

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