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Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Noshtane posted:

As it is, the prospects of a pair of students with fresh exams wanting to start a family is Stockholm is poor.
Personally I believe that not a market crash nor a building boom will solve the housing situation. There are untold numbers of people stashed away in parents basements, guest rooms, on sofas, in third hand contract apartments or heaven forbid even in Norrland, saving up cash desperately waiting for either to happen. They hopelessly believe that when the crash/boom happens they will be the one to snag one of those delicious four room apartments at Östermalm or wherever.
Then we have rich Europeans dreaming of a home in the socialist paradise of Stockholm competing for the living space and poor refugees that also has to be placed in the big city region because it is apparently cruel and unjust to place them elsewhere if the posters of this thread are to be believed.
There is simply not enough housing available, nor is it feasible to outbuild the demand.

The Swedish construction sector is so mismanaged and completely ineffective and broken and failed that it is a subject of fascination and study in international macro economics. Our very special combination of oligopoly, harmful union actions (as opposed to normal good union action) and a legal and regulatory framework from the deepest parts of hell makes any construction in urban areas cost approximatily infinite moneys and be delayed by infinite time.

Basically, we suck at building things and because politicians and the unions are short sighted special interest assholes we that made sure that no one is able to build things cheaper.

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Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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MiddleOne posted:

Unlike the other growing metropoles of the world which are having none of these difficulties thanks to the wonders of de-regulation...? Like you do get that you're just regurgitating a narrative here right? Swedish property laws are a mess but we're not exactly alone in that category, property is complicated. :raise:

Indeed. Well done.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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But they are leeching on our welfare state while also taking our jobs somehow! :qq:

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Zzulu posted:

What did France do after they got terror'd a bunch of times?

They have a very significant reduction in hate crimes. So whatever they did, they did something good.

http://www.france24.com/en/20170201-number-racist-incidents-france-plummets

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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MiddleOne posted:

But pursuing an effective remedy would mean getting into the nitty gritty of the many problems of the police re-organization and neither our last government, current government or opposition are interested in dealing with that so it's more officers instead I guess. :v:

It's all quite sad.

Yeah. On top of all the other bullshit and the competition from the private sector, we have the wonders of NPR with all the moronic stats optimizing that follows. And the fact that you get the job as top boss for the entire Swedish police force because you've been in politics for your entire adult life and thus you are obviously uniquely qualified for the job.

I wonder how long it will take until cops do the same as health care workers and start working as consultants for 2x wages and whatever hours they want. We are fortunate that it is illegal now.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Karpaw posted:

But this fear in very unevenly distributed depending on who you ask. More than four times as many women are afraid of walking alone after dark than men. While it should come as no surprise that women are wussy (or rather pussy - that's practically tautological) like you say, I think this misplaced fear is mostly due to a misandric tendency to scapegoat and unfairly view men as predators, spurred on by opportunistic feminists for various reasons including financial ones (more hysteria about rape culture means more state dosh to fight it). What do you think?

:allbuttons:

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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MiddleOne posted:

For those not in the know, our finance ministers religious commitment to running a surplus has finally made the state debt level so low that the bond market barely has enough bonds to function. So therefore apparently we're hatching up plans to start a sovereign wealth fund which is going to be funded by creating more bonds. (Specifically, 5% of GDP) Because clearly that is the rational option and not just you know doing some stimulus spending put towards our social services, national infrastructure or addressing the housing crisis which would create bonds while actually creating tangible value for society instead of simply inflating the stock market.

I hate this government so much.

As for the budget, if you own a private company (like I do) you might also note that the tax exception for fåmannsföretag is getting both reduced (from 10% to 5%) and constrained (from about 150k per year to a 100k using förenklingsregeln). I think this is mostly fine because the dividend tax code is already extremely generous for small private companies but C and M are predictably livid. There's also uproar about the marginal tax line once again not getting counted up as much as it could but anyone that didn't see that coming hasn't been paying attention. Overall the budget is really uninspired and mostly it seems to be a pre-amble to some sizeable election fat next year. There's some talk of the budget getting shut down but I'll believe that when I see it happen.

I have not read the part about the wealth fund before, so thanks for enlighting me. I really can not understand the point -its not like we live in the actual socialist paradise and have problems with what to spend money on to fix things as everything is already done and perfect. drat the meme that is "fulla" or "tomma" lador.

The budget seems to be a soft ball in order to not have to fight for it; next year is going to be an awful mess as everyone will want to fight on principle while also trying to not look like they cooperate with SD. Probably will suck more than usual with MP and KD slipping away into nothingness and SD as 2:nd largest party. Bleh.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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CAROL posted:

men vafaaan vi fick ju nyss nya pengar palla växla in mynt igen

Ingen kommer ta emot dina gamla pengar nästa gång; problemet löst.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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I think most countries can support more power be moved to the EU, as long as their national interest is forced upon the rest of the suckers in the club. Absolutely no country is willing to go federated if other countries priorities come first.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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(Hej jag är en normal människa med normala åsikter.)
                                            /

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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MiddleOne posted:

It's clearly just about the climate denial.

It's about ethics in our schools.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Pump it up! Do it! posted:

Apparently if you harass government agencies enough you can just shut down investigations into the Muslim brotherhood.
https://www.fokus.se/2017/06/nerringd-jo-anmald-och-mejlbombad/

I'm pretty sure you could shut down any investigation with this tactic. As long as agencies have GDs in charge we are guaranteed a tendency to avoid controversy above all else.

Why the gently caress do we still in 2017 have these Generaldirektörer? It's so blatantly used as a reward for your political allies that it's embarrassing.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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E: n/m. Dehumanise -> Bloodshed.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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CAROL posted:

Sweden is Pungpinan

Nah, it's Groddammen.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Collateral Damage posted:

From what I understood, antifa (or any of the counter protesters) never really got close to the nazis so you can't give them credit for shutting it down.

It was stopped because the nazis tried to deviate from the route they had given permission to use, got pushed back by police at which point they started fighting with the police. Their leader was arrested along with a bunch of others, and while this was going on the permitted time for their demonstration ran out and the police told everyone to gently caress off.

Basically the nazis stopped their own march because they're a bunch of thin-skinned morons.

They also started fighting journalists and had a sit in, demanding that the police release their arrested leader. Shockingly, the police did not meet that demand., and the Nazis packed their cars and went home.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Apparently, M is now sufficiently racist to lure back the voters they lost to SD.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Cardiac posted:

With this logic S are also racist.
Or maybe it is just a stupid logic and ad hominem to avoid the argumentation.

Not sure S is sufficiently racist yet, AFAIK they have not managed to lure back any lost voters from anywhere. I'd say S is more arrogant than racist.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Zudgemud posted:

I, for one, welcome crashing and burning housing prices.

you are too late!

quote:

Bostadspriserna har nått sin botten.

AKA no one knows wtf, but everyone is an expert!

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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MiddleOne posted:

It's not like this was unknown. These methods stopped being used over a decade ago because they suck but apparently that was less important than Social Democratic ministers being able to self-rationalize sleeping soundly at night as they sold tens of thousands of young refugees down the river.

"Sorry, but they have to go "home" because science!" is a very convenient message compared to "we fear that you voters will leave us for SD because there are too many browns here". I doubt it will help and it's cowardly and disingenuous and disgusting, but he we are. Soon it's election year, dehumanize and face to bloodshed.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Retarded Goatee posted:

den stora flytten från stockholm

(till 30~ min från stadskärnan med tuben)

Även känt som "hur långt kan vi flytta utan att alla säger upp sig?"

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Wild Horses posted:

observera att halva jobben åker till malmö av alla städer. :sweden:

:rip: SIDA.

Otoh, they have been about as dead and gay as these forums for quite some time now.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Fader Movitz posted:

The metro ad campaign is Moderaterna i stockholm stad och län. They just want to talk about anything except pendeltåg and Nya karolinska right now. In that sense it's a brilliant campaign since now everyone talks about their stupid ads instead of actual policy.

No, you see, it is not their fault. Svensonius is actually the good one, and her husband SHUT UP, SHUT UP LOOK AT OUR DUMB ADS!

A horrible idiot posted:

– Min uppfattning är att Karolinska har använt alldeles för mycket konsulter. Redan i mitt första ärende till landstingsstyrelsen i januari 2017 beslutades om påtagligt minskad konsultanvändning. Därför är det bra att sjukhuset avslutade avtalet med BCG i våras och att både chef i ledande ställning samt ledamöter i styrelsen med tidigare kopplingar till BCG inte har kvar sina uppdrag.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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BigglesSWE posted:

I suspect a lot of people blindly blame the government since they have the ministers and all.

Or kommunen. Many probably do not realise that there is more to landstinget than SL.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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:thermidor:
Let's have a new Stockholm's bloodbath.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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SplitSoul posted:

Leader of the Social Democrats, Mette Frederiksen, September 19, 2015: "I'm convinced that the time where you could get away with symbolic policy, proposals for refugee camps in Kenya, slamming the brakes [on asylum] and quick fixes, is a thing of the past. Kristian Thulesel-Dahl. Lars Løkke. Welcome to reality." (actual quote)

Leader of the Social Democrats, Mette Frederiksen, present day: "Yes, we're now running on a platform of completely eliminating asylum applications at the border, shipping refugees to camps in Northern Africa, mandating pork in public daycare and schools, and banning exactly 23 women from wearing the niqab. Why do you ask?"

:tif::tif::tif::tif::tif::tif::tif::tif:

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
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I personally love the "we must find out the True Cost of immigration" rhetoric of M. What does it even mean? And what shall I, as a Concerned Voter (Not Racist, I like the pizza baker!!), do with the resulting numbers?

If immigration is Bad and should be restricted because it's expensive; is birth, sickness, lethargy, growing old, etc. Bad too? Death or banishment to all who do not present instant sufficient revenue to the state? With exceptions for the rich, obviously.

In short:

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Retarded Goatee posted:

hey friends serious questions

how do we actually as a society solve the social issues arising in the wake of migration

because if your solution is "nothing is wrong" or "it'll solve itself", you're just setting yourself up to get ganked by the right wing every fourth year

Before we continue, please be more specific as to what issues we are talking about. It seems to me that one big problem today is that people lump all kinds of issue into one universal "immigration!"-explanation regardless of actual cause.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Cardiac posted:

So the actual issue is not a bomb going off in Dalby, which is a basically a middle-class suburb to Lund populated by Malmö/Lund commuters, but rather how it is reported?
The twitter account is a moron/racist, but it still doesn't change the fact of the bomb.

Criminals run enterprise in fancy suburb; other criminals blow it up, news at 11!

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Bert Karlsson as a Christian Democrat eh? They must be really desperate for voters.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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MiddleOne posted:

Natural disciplines all have the benefit of being able to put their poo poo in a controlled environment, a level of control over environment and variable which most of humanities can only dream of. Society is difficult to put in a box.

Every now and then the IMF does large scale tests of economical theory. It usually shows that the theory sucks rear end when applied to actual humans. Who'd thunk it?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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MiddleOne posted:

If measures don't work the ways model predict then it is only because we didn't follow them closely enough, the theory can't be wrong!

This is a good point. We need more data points before the r^2 fit is acceptable! The results so far are obviously from the tail end of the bell curve! :science:

Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Feb 23, 2018

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Today is the day when Stefan Löfven saves us all by meeting the senile carrot. I for one can not wait to hear the great things this meeting will achieve.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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SplitSoul posted:

The first order of business for the government after the last election was abolishing the official poverty line, however.

One weird trick to get rid of poverty! Socialists hate it!

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Retarded Goatee posted:

Oh boy, where do we begin with Nya Karolinska

- Paret Svenonius, på varsin sida av näringslivet / privata skötte delar av affärerna.
- Man tog sig an att gå med på en upphandling trots att det bara kom in ett bud från privat konsortium.
- Vårdmodellen man använder är Michael Porters tankeexperiment "Värdebaserad vård" - vilket, såklart, visat sig vara gift.
- Man gav riskkapitalisterna en ränta på 15%~ trots att man som motpart är staten, och således har skattekranen - vilket de facto är riskfritt.
- Man anställde en chef från BCG, som sedan anställde BCG för uppskattningsvis en miljard konsulttimmar. (En otrolig mängd av vilka saknar underlag)
- Denna enorma investering till trots lyckas man inte ens leverera fungerande vård. Sjukhuset fungerar inte ens.

AMA, I turned down an offer to do a phd in operations management on-site @ NKS

Was there anywhere in this miserable failure sought any input from actual hospital staff?

E: please do tell us more about that offer and what made you reject it.

E2:

Cardiac posted:

In this case probably useful idiot.
https://twitter.com/hanifbali/status/974696110425083906?s=21
What is the thing about anyways, since the article is behind a paywall and I don’t read local newspapers like DN :v:?
Something about Oksanen?

But wait, there's more! He feels compelled to lie about the source for some reason.

https://cached-images.bonnier.news/...put-format=webp

Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 16, 2018

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Collateral Damage posted:

Pulling a Nixon.

If Norwegian politics are anything like Swedish politics she'll be "suspended" in that the party will say something vaguely critical about her, she'll lay low for about year while receiving full pay, then return once the media has forgotten about her.

Or spend the rest of her years as GD, wreaking havoc wherever she lands, roaming the myndighetssverige leaving chaos in her wake.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Heinz Hynkel posted:

What is going on in Sweden?

https://resett.no/2018/03/21/svensk-msm-med-sjelden-innrommelse-nesten-samtlige-domte-gjengvoldtektsmenn-har-innvandrerbakgrunn/

"Swedish MSM with infrequent admission - almost all convicted gangrapers have immigrant backgrounds"

This is very sad. It is very rude to seek protection in a state and then do that. So much rape in sweden.

Oh piss off

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Heinz Hynkel posted:

Why should I do that? Is there something that is bothering you?

Edit; You can block posters. Then you will not see what they post and your feelings will be safe.

:hurr: Sweden, rape capital of the world :hurr:

You are not even trying to argue in good faith.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Heinz Hynkel posted:

What is going on in Sweden?

[...]

So much rape in sweden.

It's you, you're the "rabid panzerfeminista", whatever nonsense that is.

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Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

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Heinz Hynkel posted:

I am simply comparing sweden with Norway and Denmark. Even even though it is not the "rape capital of the world" its extreme compared to nations
its normal to use when comparing. I very much understand why you find it problematic but you have to deal with the real world and not the one
you have created inside your own mind.

It is very clever of you to figure this out in contrast to the know-nothing fools who study this for a living and disagree with your conclusion.

TL;DR Your a idiot.

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