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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Trump is going to make America so great, probably the greatest country ever, just a country of winners, we're going to be tired of winning so much

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

i really can't read these threads that effectively anymore due to the sheer volume, but sometimes i do catch an occasional page with some comedy gold on it and that makes me happy

us politics has never been better but i feel like we might be building up a resistance to insane conservative politicians, to get the same high in 2020 we're going to need some real awesome candidates, like maybe a for-real white nationalist with a big swastika on his forehead, running against sarah palin after she's been possessed by the ghost of mussolini, and herman cain will show up again because he's pretty cool

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

My facebook feed this morning has been blowing up with two Jill Stein things

1) Apparently she said that wifi signals harm children

2) She tweeted that vaccines don't cause autism and was apparently badgered into taking that tweet down

I assume this means that she's pandering to her crazy stupid base but is there a point? Doesn't she already have the Green Party nomination?

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

sarmhan posted:

For this year yes.
She's really attached to her current 'fame' though, and think about who votes in the green party primary.

Ah so you're saying that she probably has to keep pandering in order to keep the gravy train flowing for future elections, because even Jill Stein knows that she has no shot at actually winning and all of that Green Party money goes away if she starts to express opinions that aren't crazy.

I think that's probably the right answer

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Lester Shy posted:

I love that in the span eight tweets, he goes from frothing rage, calling for open revolution to "welp, better luck next time." And in the intervening 20 minutes, someone explained to him how the electoral college works and he managed to misspell a three letter word.

The oldest tweets are on the bottom, not the top. He started out going "back to the drawing board" nonchalantly and then within 10 minutes has become a frothing lunatic because Trump has no self-control or reason. Presumably someone took away his phone at that point and then Trump's rage was redirected to whatever poor staffer made that mistake

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008


holy poo poo

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Gyges posted:

Never wear a US Flag. First it's against flag code, and if you actually cared about :911:, you'd follow flag code. Second, you'll be confused with the vast majority of people wearing the flag as clothing, who are hateful assholes just waiting for all the minorities to be out of earshot so they can drop some truth bombs on your. Third, and, really, most importantly, it's tacky as poo poo. If you've gotta put that flag on yourself go with a nice, understated flag pin.


Yes, the key to Trump's appearances is that he started off on 3rd and has kept up the lifestyle of hitting a double. When you start out with millions, it's not at all impressive that you've got millions and the fact that he acts like he's successfully done anything is hilarious. The fucker managed to go bankrupt running a loving casino.

Worse than that, his casino was indistinguishable from being a straight-up scam. It's clear that he never intended for anything to be profitable, which is why he put so little of his own money into it and had the business wrack up insane amounts of debt. Trump was basically getting a huge salary and didn't have to deal with the fallout

Each and every one of Trump's business ventures has been peak Trump: literally just a scam to rake in money for Trump at the expense of everyone else

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

paperwind posted:

Is it just me or did Trump stay relatively sane by his own standards today? I did hear from Joe Scarborough that some military advisor said Trump had asked him more than one time why we can't use nuclear weapons, but that seems to be about the worst thing from today and it didn't actually come directly from Trump's own mouth.

Okay but we don't usually measure someone's insanity by "their own" standards, like we're still talking about a guy who asking whether global nuclear war would be so bad

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

The Lone Badger posted:

At least he asked, rather than just reassuring us that he would have the best nuclear war.

The 'Trump awards himself Purple Heart' thing is satire, right?

He didn't award it to himself, he was given it by a veteran at some rally

"I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier"

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008


Get the ER ready, bunch of people gonna get whiplash from the backpedaling

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

That would be my sister. :smith:

then you should probably follow the words of the wise sensei Dr Ron Paul: kill your parents

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008


This is a really good reference but I'm afraid that not enough people will get it

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

DemeaninDemon posted:

Don't be an rear end.

Anyone who bothers to read politician tweets knows the reference.

Wow nice meltdown there Mr Trump

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008


I love this clip. "It's not just that the media is biased, it's that (Trump) is giving them help and aid along the way!" Not even Fox News can maintain the idea that Trump's campaign is competently run.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Gyges posted:

I have a pet theory that he's not going to spend jack poo poo in this election. Then he's going to have the most lavish victory party set up that American politics has ever seen. Held at a Trump property, planed, catered and staffed by Trump businesses. Just an amazing, $200 million dollar party that he throws a fit at like a spoiled girl on My Super Sweet 16.

Of course that's only after someone explains to him that he can't just directly pocket the money in his campaign account after the election.

Honestly wouldn't surprise me, my theory is that he's expecting to lose and doesn't care but you can read all about the crazy campaign in this new book!

e: or at least that was my theory until Trump bent the knee like a loving bitch beta

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Aug 6, 2016

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

fart_man_69 posted:

Why is the United States giving $32 million to the Philippines? If it's bribe money to keep the pressure on China, what exactly would that entail?

literally any money that goes anywhere out of the US is just bribe money, don't you know that?

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

KillingPablo posted:

Holy hell, is that true? How was someone working for the NSA and engineered the theft of so much data so stupid as to not realize Hong Kong wasn't some sanctuary from the PRC?

Is "he's a libertarian and therefore knows nothing about anything" not a good enough reason for you?

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Hey guys my name is Julian Assange and I'm going to release some serious shady poo poo about the Turkish president!

*instead releases millions of e-mails between normal Turkish citizens as well as a shitload of personal details, including names, addresses, phone numbers and political affiliations*

Take that, jews!!!

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Evil Fluffy posted:

NC's Gerrymandering is the focus of a lawsuit and it's probably the most severe case of it in the country so if Clinton wins and appoints a 5th liberal to the bench maybe we'll see a ruling that rigging representation (at least to some extent) is unconstitutional.


Did nobody have the heart to tell her that he did learn, and that's why he ran in the Democratic primary instead of being on a useless Green Party ticket? The Greens want him solely to boost their own status and Sanders probably realized that as well.

IIRC Sanders is also pro-vaccination which would make him toxic to the Green base

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Spaced God posted:

I'm surprised someone hasn't used the super dumb "if you're not doing anything wrong, why are you against data collection" argument yet.

Also I'm on mobile and cba to go back, but to whomever said universal encryption would make this a non-issue: remember that one of the revelations was that the NSA actively weakened a bunch of encryption protocols to make their job easier.

Follow that up with all of the hubbub over the government asking Apple to unlock some cell phone and then one day just saying "Nevermind, we didn't need your help after all".

Most of the encryption that people use are based on things like SHA, AES, etc -- all things that the NSA has either developed or at least helped develop. "Well I'll just use some sort of open source encryption algorithm" is usually a bad idea because your average computer programmer doesn't know how to write good encryption software, and your average cryptologist doesn't know how to write secure code. You need to be able to do both extremely well in order to have a system that actually works and that isn't easily breakable.

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Aug 7, 2016

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

fishmech posted:

You're a bit confused: the only good encryption is open source encryption, because then it can be mathematically proven to work well, since you know exactly how it works. AES and so on are all "open source".

Closed source encryption is often a terrible idea because you don't know if they've implemented something that actually works well and doesn't have gaping flaws, and a lot of the time it's just various "open source" encryption techniques with some useless extra fluff on top.

Yes yes I'm aware of the open source ideal of "the software will reach a point of perfection because literally anyone can look at and modify the source code!" But that's a double-edged sword, as it is also very easy to subtly compromise open source software, especially when the topic is as poorly-understood among programmers as cryptography often is.

And while there are some great open source projects, the reality is that most of them suck and if you just close your eyes and pick some random open source encryption project off of github then chances are good that you're going to have something lovely and full of vulnerabilities because encryption is legit hard, yo.

e: Also please note that you're the one turning this into an open vs closed source argument. My point was simply that "open source" is not a magic bullet to software vulnerability

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Aug 7, 2016

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

There's the e-mail controversy, which to the GOPers and some almost-moderates would be equivalent to Trump physically attacking a baby instead of just verbally attacking one

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

And if you'd be there then you'd know that that baby had it coming, that baby was a real piece of work

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

CelestialScribe posted:

His point is that she is susceptible to a scandal taking her down. It's conceivable that it could happen.

I'd love to see what would happen if Hillary spent a whole week feuding with grieving war veteran parents, fire marshals, and an actual baby

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Lightning Knight posted:

He basically has to win all the swing states.

His actual plan is to funnel donations into his businesses in what amounts to a money laundering scheme and walk away laughing to the bank at the Republican Party.

the Republican Party is what he's going to call the actual crazy party that he throws on some yacht and he'll bill the whole thing to the gop somehow

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

LegoMan posted:

It's dismissive to say he was impeached for a blowjob. He was charged with perjury and obstruction of justice. There is definitely a double standard but don't diminish what he actually did.

The truth is that he was impeached for being a Democrat

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

socialsecurity posted:

Which Conservative positions does she hold again?

She's kind of a war hawk. Also, when she was first lady she pushed for something more like Obamacare instead of a public option or single payer.

She's not a fan of devouring the rich

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Yinlock posted:

One of the big things about Hillary this election is that Bernie nudged her platform and the Liberals general discourse farther left though. It's like she actually examined why a good chunk of people were flocking to the "outsider" candidate instead of infighting and backstabbing so hard that an orange lunatic looks like the sane one.

Clinton had been solidly progressive on most of the issues long before the Sanders campaign was a thing. This March 2015 DailyKos article says that she was the "11th most liberal" Senator during her time in office, according to an analysis of Senate voting records. I think that Sanders helped change the general discourse in a good way, but I don't think that Clinton's politics have changed much because she was already on board with almost everything that Sanders supports.

The biggest area where she could go further left would be to renounce her war hawk positions, but fat chance of that happening.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

For GOP chosen justices, retirement is death

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Ciaphas posted:

I know I should absolutely recognize this picture but it is not coming to me

It's a bunch of Democrats reacting to a Drudge Report headline about Benghazi

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

MattD1zzl3 posted:

Its gotta be "T-Shirts"

lol I laughed at this and then tweeted it

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

FuzzySlippers posted:

Whenever people blame Nader for causing a close election they miss how Gore did everything he could to gently caress it up too.

You can't just place all of the blame on any one thing, obviously, but it's not like anyone has a time machine and can just go tell Gore to run a better campaign. But they can possibly convince left-leaning 3rd party voters to not passively let a Republican roll into office, and there's nothing wrong with trying to do that.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Mel Mudkiper posted:

My favorite part about someone telling the Secret Service that Trump threatened Clinton is that the secret service would have already been there listening to the speech in the first place

further evidence of the police state that we live in :argh:

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Eschers Basement posted:

So, the Trump campaign released a statement:


Is it just me, or is it notable that nowhere it that statement do they actually say "No, he was not calling for violence against his opponent"?

If you think that the statement is saying "yeah it's fine to go ahead and kill Hillary" then no, that's not notable. Acknowledging that Trump's statement was an obvious call for someone to shoot Clinton does the opposite of what this statement is trying to accomplish, there's nothing more to read out of it than that.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

FuzzySlippers posted:

That's only if you can make a case for there being a difference to someone on the far left for one candidate over the other winning. In 2000 contrasting Bill with Bush Sr and contrasting Gore with W during the campaign it was easy to wash your hands of all the bastards.

However in the last 16 years we've seen the dems drift a little back left of center while the Republicans hurled themselves into right wing lunacy. So yeah in 2016 if you are willing to risk the apocalypse to maintain your lefty purity that is crazy.

Gore and W were substantially different, though. At that point you're just talking to someone with no grounding in reality and you should probably walk away (this suggestion applies to people arguing with 3rd party voters who think that Clinton and Trump are equivalent)

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I am curious as to what bad Dr. Who opinions sound like

Open any Dr Who thread and randomly read any post there

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

It seems like Trump has been making a lot of "powerful movements" on various stages around the country

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Remember when The Flintstones advertised the glamour of living next to a highway, and how all of the coolest kids live next to highways? Man the 20th century sure was weird

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Crabtree posted:

Remember when Fred told us how Wintsons taste like how a cigarette should? Full of carcinogens? Man, the 20th was just a century of bad ideas.

Way to explain the joke

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

KiteAuraan posted:

I honestly don't know how Phoenix has avoided anything going down. Even our recent big BLM marches that went "bad" weren't anything to write home about compared to other large cities.

Because it's too loving hot out for things to go really really bad

Can you imagine setting poo poo on fire when it's 120 out, with a low of 110? Even the other protestors would be like "dude what the gently caress are you thinking, it's hot enough out here and you want to make it hotter? Put the lighter down you dumbfuck."

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