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Aphrodite posted:They wrote her off because of huge negative feedback since people wanted him to be with Iris.
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Swillkitsch posted:I'm excited to see the misadventures of space-time criminal Barry Allen, but most importantly, the Reverse Flash is coming back!
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STAC Goat posted:I'm fine with Wally as Kid Flash, I just still don't really understand why they went through the effort of hitting Wally and Jesse with the Flash making waves last season only to pull an "alternate reality" version.
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Yeah I assume Earth-2 is safe from any timeline fuckery Barry pulls, since it's a completely different universe. But fear not. Once Barry destroys his world, I am sure he will be happy to go to other worlds and gently caress up their timelines as well.
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mind the walrus posted:That would be cool, although I'm sure Alchemy would take a very far backseat to Savitar because gently caress not having a speedster be the big bad. Is the douche in black with the winged fans on his head Savitar then? I know who he is from the comics, and that would be a weird place to take his look. Martout posted:Let's hope this season is more lighthearted fun and goofy than season 2 imo and that they don't forget to give Iris stuff to do
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Koalas March posted:Also she pulled her gun out too much, which doesn't work when you have a way higher black fanbase.
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Koalas March posted:The majority black fanbase in #WestAllen, #Blerds, and #DatFlash called her Police Brutality Patty for a reason. If you can't see the difference idk what to tell you. Outside from #WestAllen (which are mostly WoC from all over the world) those are black hashtags, and the highest tracking in the Flash fandom outside of just #TheFlash. As for the difference? The difference is that it's okay if Iris has a different romantic interest, but if Barry so much as looks at another woman who isn't Iris then her fans go into a loving outrage and even go as far as harassing Danielle Panabaker and Shantel VanSanten. I'm not even that big a fan of those two, but the levels of hate slung toward those two actresses is appalling. Two wrongs don't make a right here. You can't act like Iris' fanbase is all perfect and sweet. They can be nasty as hell, and there are plenty of posts online to prove it. lotus circle fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Man I'm not even saying Candice doesn't get poo poo? Because she does. But so do the other women. And making GBS threads on women to promote other women is something that affects ALL fandoms. It's just especially unfortunate for Flash, when we only have two major women characters that barely interact with one another and they get pitted against each other CONSTANTLY. Add in a woman that literally appears in like 10 or so episodes as a guest star, and you got even more of a storm. As for those posts?    Oh and is especially classy:   And that's just a few of what I found. All women actresses/characters on this show get pitted against each other, and that's what gets me riled up.
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Yeah I'm putting an end to this discussion because it's incredibly stupid. I'm not going to dig back over a year in tumblr posts to prove my point, but trust me I saw a lot of loving hate from Iris fans on her. And with those posts? Mal literally has an icon of Candice, and one of the users wanting Caitlin to die has "@irisawestallen" as their username, so I think that speaks for itself. Patty was never a perfectly written character, but she would have gotten FAR less hate if she wasn't a love interest. That's just fact. And I like Iris a lot, but she has a lot of fans who engage in making GBS threads on the other women to promote her. That's all I want to say. tsob posted:I can only speak to the reception here rather than the wider perception since I don't look for or discuss this show anywhere else, but at least here people weren't raging on her for shooting Wells in that scene, they ragged the show for never following it up, either by having anyone explain it to her or her investigating or questioning what had happened. They seemed to understand why she shot fine. There was no such reaction for Joe, because Joe was immediately filled in and the whole thing resolved in the same scene. And yeah that was total bullshit. Patty was pretty much just a plot device to get Wells injured so Jay would be forced to use the serum to save his life.
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pee out my butt posted:It's an election year so get ready for a bumpy schedule.
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Some stills for S3E2 have popped up! Spoilers in the link. Looks like JWS is coming back as Jay Garrick sooner than expected, and one of the shots has some blurry legs that look like they come from the Reverse Flash! Other than that, the episode definitely shows Flashpoint is only a single episode which is kind of disappointing.
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Brother Entropy posted:do we know if captain cold is coming back?
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teamcharlie posted:Uh, wait. Thawne went back into the past and successfully killed Barry's mom, but now he's got perfectly functional speed powers. Then who the gently caress trained the Flash? Essentially Thawne can leave behind a time remnant that goes on to become Wellsobard, while he drops Barry off in the altered post-s2 timeline and then gets to keep existing as a paradox separate from the natural flow of time. Barry pretty much hosed up so badly that Eddie's sacrifice was in vain, because now a new Eobard Thawne created as a result of Barry's Flashpoint is now around.
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Invalid Validation posted:I want Barry and Thawne to be friends. They really have no reason to hate each other if they would just stop going back in time and saying they hate each other over and over.
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Well at least one thing got fixed with the timeline, re: the prison
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nooneofconsequence posted:They started taking metas... last season? It's not new.
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McTimmy posted:Going by the standard that every run of time travel creates its own timeline. One is going back like 24 hours or some small amount of time. You're not really going back to the past, so much as you're rewinding the clock. Even Wellsobard calls what Barry did in s1 a "time reversion" or something to that effect. Barry didn't create a whole new timeline, he just went back one day to do something different. This is why there aren't two Barrys running around when he stops the hurricane, or goes back when Vandal destroys Star City. The other is legit time travel, going back to longer periods ago to change something. This is what we saw in s2e17: there were two Barrys, because our Barry was going back several months ago to a time that "solidified" as the show terms. This also includes going to when his mom died. So the amount of timelines is more like: Timeline 01: Newspaper timeline, where Eobard came from. Timeline 02: Original show timeline, created when Eobard killed Nora. Timeline 03: Created when Barry went back in time in S2 to talk with Wellsobard. No major changes apart from Hartley now being a good guy. Lasts until the s2 finale. Though the show doesn't really seem to acknowledge this as its own timeline, perhaps because there were no major changes? Timeline 04: Flashpoint. Timeline 05: Same timeline as 02+03, only with minor differences (Joe didn't tell Iris about her mother, Caitlin is developing meta-human powers, Cisco's brother was killed in a DUI crash, etc) So if we don't count Timeline 03 since the show doesn't seem to acknowledge it, we have about 4 different timelines.
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Mr Beens posted:Other timeline 5 "minor" changes - a guy working with Barry for over a year who is in charge of any meta investigation, Diggle's kid changing sex.
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Azhais posted:Joe didn't tell Iris about her mother in the original timeline either, the difference there was Iris forgave him
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Tom Felton has been in plenty of things since 2011 you guys, he's not destitute just because he's on a CW show.
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Maybe "not" has only just started gaining popularity back on Earth-2? It's pretty hilarious though.
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Jessie: My powers formed when I almost died! Wally: Okay I hear what you're saying. Excuse me for a second.
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Sooo how does Iris get home?
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Shaddak posted:So, I saw a reference earlier to Barry Spider-Manning in the last episode, not really sure what that means.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Flash has one next week and so does Supergirl. Arrow and Legends don't.
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This is how it runs down - Flash, Arrow and Supergirl go to 9 episodes before mid-season break, while LOT takes theirs at episode 8 (their episode 7 is the crossover ep) because their season is shorter at only 17 episodes. This moving around seems weird now, but they basically scheduled it so that every show takes their break after the first week of December. So while they started Supergirl and LOT late, this November shifting (partly because of the election, and then Thanksgiving week) essentially guarantees the shows take off at the same time period.
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Gotta say, this episode was really underwhelming. Taking a cool villain like Shade and turning him into some no-name goon, then wasting all the good stuff going with Wally with an incredibly lame reveal for Savitar. The Caitlin stuff was the best part, which is good since the next episode is all about her.
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Pyroi posted:Wait, so Alchemy isn't the season Big Bad, he's just a stepping stone to Savitar?
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DoctorWhat posted:One of the problems the writers have (except for Cisco! Cisco is written right!) is that they have a very poor grasp of how young people express frustration, despair, etc. Most characters aren't nearly as self-deprecating or sarcastic in their darker moments as real people their age would be, and it drags the dialogue and performances down. Attempts at "gravitas" and sincerity are made less believable and sincere by how composed and prepared the speeches often feel. It's like how people hate when Batman has sidekicks because HE'S THE DARK KNIGHT AND HE WORKS ALONE, DARKNESS, NO PARENTS, etc. The price of the fame and legacy of Batman is that writers don't get to really do anything interesting and new with him because it might upset the fans who pay to see what they know. Barry has had some self-aware deprecating moments in the past (most of them when he was speaking with Eobard Thawne that I can recall) and Grant can really play those well. I think when the writing acknowledges Barry's true pain, without generating any additional angst, they hit a great spot and that's what Grant can convey. As for Barry's true pain? It's chasing after this perfect life that he can never have, but he's too blindsighted by that goal to see it. He lost his mother at a young age, his dad went to jail, and all he ever wanted was for things to feel like they were when he was a child. That's the real kind of tragedy in Flashpoint - Barry gets exactly that, but he's not satisfied with it. If he really was, then losing all those memories of the past, losing his powers, wouldn't cause him so much burden. It's like Wells-Thawne says in the start of s2: Barry can get the thing he wants most, and he still won't be happy. This poo poo is already ingrained into the writing of the character but the writers don't always seem to get how to pull it out, so they try to fake it. lotus circle fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:I want an episode where evil Eobard Thawne shows up from another world, and then a good version who is that world's Flash shows up chasing him. FactsAreUseless posted:Bonus points if they go back in time and encounter Wells-Thawne. I would absolutely watch a whole season about Eobard Thawne being a huge rear end in a top hat throughout time and space. At least he can own up to being a huge remorseless rear end in a top hat, unlike Barry who makes excuses for himself whenever he fucks up.
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Fuckin Trump Riot posted:If you can shut off the rational part of your brain for an hour a week, he's over on Legends doing exactly that, plus carting Damien Darhk around with him. He already killed Hourman because gently caress you, that's why.
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I think in the end they tried too hard to make Zoom into Reverse Flash 2.0, except they failed to give him a compelling motivation. They just made him act like a crazy serial killer with no real direction. Reverse Flash worked because he was so close to the team, he actually grew to care for them to an extent, and his motivation was simple and relatable despite his vicious methods.
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Eh it's not a very good twist if that's what they were aiming for, which makes me think that wasn't their intention. People have been calling this since the beginning and the creators must have known it would be suspicious to add a major actor to the full-time roster and not give him a significant role.
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Zebulon posted:Hard to be upbeat about it when the writers are determined to prove it wrong at every chance they can find.
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howe_sam posted:Sure would be handy to have an extra speedster to help out right about now.
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Man I'll admit that Cisco got kind of annoying toward the middle with him forcing Barry into revealing the Flashpoint poo poo to everyone, but honestly he's entitled to feel angry at Barry. The Barry he knew refused to save his brother, and now our Barry not only refuses to do that but additionally he very likely caused Dante to die through butterfly effect bullshit. And yeah Dante may have died some other way, but that isn't the situation here. It would be poor writing for Cisco to just shrug this off and go "well Barry my brother is dead and it's probably your fault but we're cool!" Even best friends will have times they may not talk to each other because they're mad. I'm sure the writing will gradually have Cisco and Barry reconcile, but Cisco has good reasons to feel angry.
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Guy A. Person posted:Yea I definitely agree with all that but a couple things: 2) I don't think anyone actually knows that part though, unless I'm forgetting Barry mentioning it. Which is actually smart on Barry's end because if they found out Flashpoint also means Eobard is back in existence full-time (as opposed to the part-time remnant way) then he would be getting WAY more pissed looks given Eddie's sacrifice. Iris especially would banish Barry to the couch for all eternity. That aside, it was definitely hosed up. (On a side note, I wonder if the Legends are even gonna mention to Barry during this crossover that there's a speedster causing time aberrations out there and he runs with red lightning.) 3) If I'm recalling right, there was a cut out scene where Cisco supported Barry's choice and promised they would still find each other in another lifetime. That aside, agreeing to something over a year ago isn't the same as agreeing to it now. Barry didn't consult anyone before saving his mother's life and this happened just after they went through hell getting rid of Zoom. Barry was absolutely selfish in those moments, because he felt like the loss of his father was too much to bear, and I think it's important for the show to acknowledge that. Cisco's anger is part of that acknowledgment. That said I do wish we could get over the drat pep talks. First Jay, then Iris and now Oliver have to console Barry over Flashpoint. I get insecurity is one of Barry's character traits, but this is a little much now.
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Aphrodite posted:Thawne used his face stealing tech to become Barry, who because speedforce etc. didn't die like the real Wells did. Barry's still trapped in Flashpoint. But I imagine viewers would be crazy pissed to learn the Barry they've been watching for several episodes isn't actually Barry. It's not really a smart idea to do something like that past a few episodes at most.
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