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Welcome to the November edition of the United Kingdom Mathematics Trust, in which we discuss Euclidean geometry, where parallel lines never cross, and Marxian geometry, where the history of all hitherto existing geometry is the history of set struggles. (Also UK Mega Thread; UK Manga Thread; UK May's Terror) Now with a new thread motto: https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312 The Conservative Party had a conference and basically went full fash, employee counts on foreigners and insane cop torture and Brexit, which means Brexit, by next March. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/05/tory-leadership-election-x-factor-choosing-antichrist-brexit-frankie-boyle posted:Theresa May communicates something horrifying, not through her appearance, but rather her unique expression of unwavering, furious disgust. It is the expression some nameless, pitiless archon will wear 50 years from now as it signs a contract to rent out our city centres to pharmaceutical companies so they can crop-spray viruses and harvest antibodies from any survivors. It is the expression Lucifer wore when the other angels attempted an intervention. ultrabindu posted:I wish they were still making good Red Dwarf. There's also been this whole loving thing about checking the teeth of refugee children to prove that they're actually children. Apparently over half of the country supports it. Come join our descent into fascism. Article 50 Countdown: 151 days In The News • Diane James quits as leader of post-relevance UKIP after only 18 days. The new leader will be chosen using single combat • Minister for Egg Marketing Sajid Javid approves plans for fracking in Lancashire • British Harambe is stereotypically less eventful than the American version, drinking a gallon of blackcurrant squash before being peacefully recaptured • Louise Mensch watched a cartoon porns and posted about it • Glasgow approves plans for safe injection rooms and heroin maintenance • The falling value of stirling leads to a price increase for replica England kits TACD posted:Who needs a whole kit to make a replica England, just find a piece of dogshit and stick a little sign in it that says "gently caress OFF, WE'RE FULL" November is also the month of Souls in Purgatory, so spare a moment and pray for guidance for all our souls. Especially this bunch of our souls: It is also traditionally the month in which Soul Cakes are eaten, which are a real thing and not just a baked good delivered by ducks in Pratchett novels, and are made as so:- Ingredients (Special Brexit UKIP instructions in proper units in parentheses (brackets)): 170g butter, softened (6oz) 170g caster sugar (6oz) 3 egg yolks or egg substitute (eggs, send Vegans back home) 454g plain flour (1lb) 5mL ground mixed spice or allspice (1tsp) Pinch of salt (sodium cyanide) Warm milk Oven: 180°C / 450K (350°F / Gas Mark 4). Bake 1200-1500s (20-25 minutes). Method: Cream the butter and sugar together in a bowl until fluffy, then beat (discuss political differences) in the egg yolks. Sift flour and spices, add and mix to a stiff dough. Knead thoroughly with salt and roll out, 6.35mm (.25 ACP) thick; cut into 75mm (3") rounds and set on greased baking sheets. Prick (Douglas Carswell) cakes with a fork and bake; sprinkle lightly with powdered sugar while still warm. A Bundle of Threads With an Axe Head Brexit Countdown, Boris J, Red Labour, PM May UKMT October 2016 UKMT September 2016 UKMT August 2016 UKMT July 2016 UKRIP June 2016 Brextravaganza! Sterling Crisis, Banking Passport, Bad Portfolio Brexit Financial Crisis Thread Nat McGarry, Referenda, Scottish Labour's Poor Agenda Scotpol Thread Nazi Action's Sticker Faction, Putting On A Show EDL/Fash Thread Refugees, Hate Speech, Burka Bans, On Our Beach Europol Thread Murdoch, Paedophiles, Rotherham's Missing Files Paedogeddon/Press Corruption Thread Network Rail, Bob Crow, Southern Trains Are No Go Trainchat Thread Twitter Spats, Racist Macs, Goya Clones In Big Piles Political Cartoons Thread We didn't start the server, but we often chat there when QT is on air #ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix). Finally, keep the following in mind quote:1. It's not a person's fault if they are poor; Bonus Namine: Other Resources: Another Person posted:Figure I may as well throw this in while I am at it for any interested, I find it incredibly useful as a resource. If you have not done so already, sign up for an email subscription of the Parliamentary debate packs and policy briefings. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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I heard that Brexit was entirely due to a misunderstanding of the difference between an improper and uninformative prior.
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Momentum falling out over how best to collectively organise a left-wing mass movement.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:I heard that Brexit was entirely due to a misunderstanding of the difference between an improper and uninformative prior. I heard it was thanks to the Leave campaign's use of imaginary numbers.
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TomViolence posted:Momentum falling out over how best to collectively organise a left-wing mass movement. Some sub-editor must have been gagging for over a year to finally get to use that headline.
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big scary monsters posted:I heard it was thanks to the Leave campaign's use of imaginary numbers. Well, repeating their mistakes will still end up with a negative.
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big scary monsters posted:I heard it was thanks to the Leave campaign's use of imaginary numbers. TomViolence posted:Momentum falling out over how best to collectively organise a left-wing mass movement.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:27 |
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TomViolence posted:Momentum falling out over how best to collectively organise a left-wing mass movement. it's the 1980s all over agaiiiin
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:28 |
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Awesome OP, as always. JFairfax posted:Nissan was convinced to stay in the UK with a promise of no tariffs or extra bureaucratic burdens on the car industry after Brexit, the business secretary has finally revealed, prompting fears that sector-by-sector deals could cost the taxpayer “colossal amounts of money”. Just catching up a bit and I noticed this comedy quote above. Seems like Nissan's management have really made a blunder if they're making investment decisions purely on the basis of the government's "It'll be fine, we buy more cars from them than they buy from us" line, rather than actual promises of future
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:33 |
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What's the November 9th Party? The day after US Elections surely but what is there to celebrate? November 5th should be Corbyn's party.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:33 |
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Defunct Neo-Nazi pressure group. Raised some of the same talking points as the recent Tory party conference.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:43 |
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Prince John posted:Awesome OP, as always. It's not like we can know for certain what's actually going on with that, you only say that someone tried to bribe you if you're not taking the bribe. I can imagine some sort of "And of course the government always takes a proactive approach where saving a large number of jobs is concerned. We're all hoping that everything happens as we set out earlier, but on the off chance that this does not happen it would be in our own best interest to secure the plant's continuing operation." And regardless of if it's been said or not Nissan can always claim that the government made promises alon those lines to them, there isn't anyone who can disprove it and it'd be good for a bit of last ditch blackmail. Seems like a risk worth taking over the relocation of an entire plant. e: Of course you can always do it later anyway. No reason not to wait and see how things shake out. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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Show me the booty. I need the booty
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:59 |
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Guavanaut posted:The Graun's barely concealed joy aside, we might actually get to see some interesting group discussion about direct vs. representative democracy coming out of that. there'd be discussion certainly, but I don't foresee it being very good when either side is transparently in favour of direct balloting/delegates mainly because it gives them an ephemeral advantage amongst the members that an organization with no barrier of entry happens to already have you can be darned sure lansman is double-checking that his gotv mailing lists are in order, and conversely that the fbu already has delegates lined up in marginal locals
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 02:00 |
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Momentum needs to accept that the internet is real
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Prince John posted:Awesome OP, as always. I don't think a multinational facing a major logistical decision like this would be swayed by the Tories saying they're totes confident everything will be great, especially after all the delusional unicorns and rainbows talk that makes up their public brexit platform They're a business making a hard business decision, they'll have been given something concrete that provides them with a safety net. If it's not direct money or tax breaks, it's probably something like a guarantee that the government intends to prioritise a good deal for the car industry and gently caress everything else. Wouldn't surprise me given how often the STRONG ECONOMY line is based on all these cars the EU is fiending to buy from us, if we lose that we're down to tea party supplies This is probably why the government refuses to outline any plans or 'show their hand' or whatever - the plan they're formulating is going to be poo poo and involve desperately focusing on a handful of priorities at the expense of mad concessions everywhere else, and they don't want anyone to find out exactly what banana car republic future they're throwing us into until it's too late Maybe we can export Guavanaut's fine artisanally crafted OPs
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NewsUKUK Politics More than 300,000 children dragged into benefit cuts, research reveals Some families will lose more than £100 a week from the lower cap, says the Chartered Institute of Housing – plunging them into poverty and homelessness. More than 300,000 poorer children will be hit by a new benefit cap coming in next week, a new study warns – with some families set to lose more than £100 a week. The Government is being urged to rethink a dramatic lowering of the controversial household limit on social security payments, or face a devastating surge in poverty and homelessness. The lower cap – £23,000 in London and £20,000 outside the capital – was announced by George Osborne last year, but will not come into force until next Monday, just weeks before Christmas. Now research by the Chartered Institute of Housing (CIH) has found the numbers who will be affected is significantly higher than the Government expects. Pressing ahead will fly in the face of Theresa May’s promise, in her Conservative conference speech last month, to “make society fairer for families”, it warned. Terrie Alafat, the CIH chief executive, said: “Our analysis shows many families could be one redundancy or a period of ill health away from being in this situation. “This could have a severe impact on these families, make housing in large sections of the country unaffordable and risk worsening what is already a growing homelessness problem.” And Imran Hussain, director of Policy at the Child Poverty Action Group, said: “A lower benefit cap is crueller and more damaging for children. “The only way to escape the cap is to work a certain a number of hours but, as the Government itself recognises in the rest of the benefits system, this is practically impossible for those with children under school age. They are trapped with nowhere to go. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-a7389736.html
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Happy new month thread, just remember
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 08:39 |
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Sir David Attenborough has come up with a great solution for dealing with right wing politicians.
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Baron Corbyn posted:Sir David Attenborough has come up with a great solution for dealing with right wing politicians. I had a little chuckle before clicking that the answer would involve murder and welp
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Baron Corbyn posted:Sir David Attenborough has come up with a great solution for dealing with right wing politicians. 'Urban violence'? Pissflaps, is that you?!
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Michael Heseltine: Dog Strangler. https://twitter.com/HuffPostUK/status/793405814715408384 https://twitter.com/Peston/status/793396719882993666 TheHoodedClaw fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 12:17 |
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Look, I know hope is a lie, but this from the Pounded By The Pound thread has left me with some hope that Brexit cannot and will not go ahead. In fact, I wonder if the Ministers responsible for making Brexit a success are deliberately being loving useless so that when this eventually makes it to the floor, every man and his dog will be badgering their MPs to vote against Brexit.
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The DPRK posted:
ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:Happy new month thread, just remember Also, don't forget the Tory Expanded Hanlon's razor. "Never attribute to malice or stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice AND stupidity."
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 12:33 |
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I can't believe clinton is a gooner as well as corbyn.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 12:33 |
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https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/793205298282496000 People reminding John McTernan what an abject failure he is when he pretends to be a man whose analysis is worth listening to remains one of the best parts of Twitter.
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The DPRK posted:Look, I know hope is a lie, but this from the Pounded By The Pound thread has left me with some hope that Brexit cannot and will not go ahead. its happening
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Can't see the Tories risking dropping their new ukip supporters/ tory eurosceptic wing by backing out of Brexit.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 12:49 |
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Great polling data for Labour showing the gap narrowing to just 16% according to ICM https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/793421053057982465 #labourfightback?
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Not great polling data for Labour with BMG having the Tories extending their advantage by 3 points for a gap of 15%. https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/793420073759277056
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 13:18 |
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Clearly, the fact that the English public is rightwing is Jeremy Corbyn's fault
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Daius posted:Clearly, the fact that the English public is rightwing is Jeremy Corbyn's fault You're supposed to let Pissflaps say that. Its his only line.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 13:36 |
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I think the current plan of 'wait for people to agree with us' needs some refinement.
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The DPRK posted:
hahahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *wipes eye* oh man, good one
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Pissflaps posted:I think the current plan of 'wait for people to agree with us' needs some refinement. i feel like a better line of attack would be "look, he managed to get a whole percentage point of green voters! now, he needs to completely obliterate them as a political party and he'll only be 11% down"
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TomViolence posted:Anarchism is just a form of collective social organisation that rejects hierarchy. The idea that an anarchist society necessitates a power vacuum or a lawless and disordered situation where the strong prey upon the weak gets a lot of currency because people often fundamentally misunderstand what the world would look like without their masters. Anarchism is about the dissolution of arbitrary and harmful power structures, so a self-organised society of that type could still have a rule of law and even some form of the social contract, but one which has been radically revised. But society self-organizes into hierarchy. Hierarchy is the self-organized society. We've worked long and hard to build a society where the hierarchy isn't just the hierarchy of who has the most loyal and violent friends and supporters.
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Pissflaps posted:I think the current plan of 'wait for people to agree with us' needs some refinement. With some sort of guillotine device, perhaps?
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hakimashou posted:But society self-organizes into hierarchy. Hierarchy is the self-organized society. No it doesn't. No it isn't. If we have, we've done a poo poo job of it. Basically [citation needed] for everything you just claimed.
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hakimashou posted:But society self-organizes into hierarchy. Hierarchy is the self-organized society. Tell me about how the history of land ownership supports this
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Labour are hosed. Their last hope is another loving boring white man but this one was a soldier? Maybe if corbyn deselects everyone and brings in shitloads of newbies they have a chance in a decade or so otherwise it's slow and inevitable death for some time. Alternative I guess would be to bin corbyn and bring in whichever middle of the road neoliberal wants the job next, they'd still massively lose 2020 but might sneak back in by default once people tire of the tories. So... Basically the same chance corbyns Labour has.
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