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ex post facho posted:americans are loving retarded for continuing to vote for these malevolent assholes Senate Democrats are going to let them get away with this lmao rushing a bill through without letting anyone look at it is exactly what the GOP screamed about when the ACA was passed, even though it was a complete fabrication, and now that they're planning on doing the same thing themselves the Dems still think they can negotiate in good faith with the fuckers the bitcoin of weed has issued a correction as of 15:08 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 15:06
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yeah that's spending per capita, including both tax expenditures that go towards healthcare and personal payments. the lesson there is that taking the money people pay in premiums, copays, deductibles, etc would go much further if it was all put towards a single payer monolith that would cut out the overhead of for-profit systems
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Jun 13, 2017 16:09
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zegermans posted:My point is I'm not sure the groundswell of leftist support is as big as ya'll think based off a guy who picked up more seats than expected to a person who spent the last few weeks talking about taking Alzheimer's patients homes away from them and hinting at Muslim internment camps when her 20k police officer cuts seemed to backfire. the conservative coalition is going to collapse in the next few months, if not the next few weeks, and another election would be necessary at that point, which
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Jun 13, 2017 16:56
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hi if you're going to talk about how single payer costs would work given the various effects that would have on care distribution and price controls just refer to the NNU/Bernie Think Tank paper that goes over how all of that would go
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Jun 13, 2017 17:06
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comedyblissoption posted:if this is the case, can you explain to me why was there such a big show about wanting a filibuster proof majority in the senate for the ACA? was it so they could get what the donors wanted and remove the public option and have some fall guys for this unpopular action? Senate rules classify this as a reconciliation bill, because it's just a deficit-neutral modification to the ACA, so it can't be filibustered and thus only requires a simple majority to pass however the Dems should still absolutely shut down everything and raise hell because the GOP passing a secret shadow bill to kill 20 million people is ridiculously evil and they aren't worth negotiating with
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Jun 13, 2017 17:17
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ThndrShk2k posted:I'd be more annoyed over it if the alternative didn't stop Sessions from doing his interviews. the sessions poo poo doesn't matter. the only thing driving the investigation is constant trump meltdowns and he's not going to suddenly stop doing that
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Jun 13, 2017 17:24
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Concerned Citizen posted:ok can you describe some sort of action that the dems should have done that they did not do beaten Paul Ryan with a cane on the house floor
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Jun 13, 2017 17:42
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im running for the house on the platform of doing wrestling moves on Paul Ryan whenever I see him, currently polling 50 points ahead of my primary opponent who still respects decorum and compromise
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Jun 13, 2017 17:46
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Homeless Friend posted:lol "questioning" he literally said "I didn't see him there, so he's lying about all of it" lmao
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Jun 13, 2017 19:40
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got any sevens posted:the amendments from opposite party being zero makes me hate dems more than repubs democrats let republicans gently caress around with their signature legislation 171+ times lmao
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Jun 13, 2017 19:50
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the self-suck zone
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Jun 13, 2017 21:46
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Concerned Citizen posted:that said, if there's ever a political path to single payer i'd of course be for it. *zen masterly* You have to want something, before you can get it
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Jun 13, 2017 22:28
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Concerned Citizen posted:more politically-palatable alternatives. Dems aren't even at any positions of power anywhere and you're already pre-compromising lmao
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Jun 13, 2017 22:51
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GalacticAcid posted:Democrats should take the high road here. This is a good opportunity to demonstrate which party represents the "adult in the room." is this a carl diggler quote
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Jun 15, 2017 00:03
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these are some insanely low-energy memes
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Jun 15, 2017 16:03
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GalacticAcid posted:read all newspapers critically. this is really the key. assume everything you read is biased, since it probably is, and figure out how sometimes the NYT/WaPo centrist bias is useful, like when they endlessly dump on Trump, but during the dem primary it was almost entirely tedious and awful
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Jun 15, 2017 17:23
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you could always run candidates who promise to do things that people want, instead of running candidates that promise to do things people don't want and then spend the entire election season trying to convince them they want it I guess that's hard though
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Jun 15, 2017 21:16
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Trabisnikof posted:If there was an underserved consensus like that, wouldn't any social-democratic candidate crush the opposition in any race they run in? there are like, maybe three earnestly socdem politicians at the national level and they're all in fairly safe seats and crush their elections party donors will never let the movement grow beyond that as long as they control things
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Jun 15, 2017 22:25
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zegermans posted:Is Grayson running for anything? he might try another Senate run next year but he's extremely poo poo so I hope he goes away he was at least fun to have around in the house. maybe he'll get back to that dude mostly just sends emails these days
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Jun 19, 2017 22:32
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Joementum posted:I agree with this, but I ask because one of the arguments being made now is that the NRCC ran a bunch of ads against Ossoff (and Thompson and Quist) about a vote for them being a vote for Pelosi to bring her radical socialist jihad upon America. Some are saying that ditching her removes that problem, assuming you can get a less well-known villain to fill her shoes. Republicans are going to call anyone who sits in democratic leadership a maoist leninist but Pelosi doesn't do any favors for her own base either and says stupid poo poo constantly
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Jun 21, 2017 16:46
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SKULL.GIF posted:sid meier's pirates! was a good, if shallow, game and I hope some enterprising game dev takes another crack at age-of-piracy simulation rear end creed 4 was excellent if you ignore literally everything besides floating around on your boat singing sea shanties and pirating English warships
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Jun 21, 2017 19:01
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Montasque posted:
The Democrats!!!!
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Shear Modulus posted:justice and development dems
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