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Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

Anyone with a knife want to try that on me?

oh man, the possibilities

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Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

At least Trump may accidentally revive local manufacturing when global trade falls apart and fracking becomes profitable again during the Iran War on Islam.

Global trade isn't going to fall apart

Someone else is just going to fill in the blanks if the US pulls out

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

ThndrShk2k posted:

Good advice

hot take but if Bill ran instead of Hillary he probably would have won

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
btw Baloogan you are awesome

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Serf posted:

I think we shouldn't be too comfortable with the idea that the establishment is too old and will just roll over. They could very well nominate someone like Cory Booker. Plenty of Clinton supporters would also champion her again for 2020 because a) the margins were very narrow so of course she could win if she tried harder! (lol) and b) we're like really, really bad at learning.

OTOH, "we don't want a repeat of 2016" is enough to sink her

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Tatum Girlparts posted:

it's the literal foundation of negotiating, come on dude.

The Republicans are not going to come to the table negotiating in good faith for any of their proposals

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Tatum Girlparts posted:

that has nothing to do with the concept of pragmatism not being inherently evil?

Not when you're dealing with the devil.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

pathetic little tramp posted:

Biden would be cool by me.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Serf posted:

too bad they get 4-8 years to do whatever they want

too bad?

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

steinrokkan posted:

Candidate Response 1, A woman: Naturally suggesting that being a woman should be an obstacle to running for presidency is despicable, and she shouldn't be blamed for the effects of sexism of the American people.
Candidate Response 2, A Jew: Are you nuts, you would run a loving Jew in the general election? Think pragmatically, for crying out loud!

Remember when the DNC got caught trying to strategize how to point out Bernie's Jewish problem?

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Their strategy was to try and accuse of him being a "fake jew"

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Baloogan's interests include: strife,

what's Baloogan's favorite anime

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
We can accuse them of being Carville style masterminds, but Carville was the one who coined the phrase "it's the economy, stupid".

This was a severe case of the Democrats refusing to listen to their own electoral success stories.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRUc11fPAwk

Speaking of Iowa, anyone remember Iowa Trump?

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Venom Snake posted:

maybe it's the fever and crushing sense of despair but I don't have very much hope that someone will save us

Save yourselves. Have you considered running for a local office? You should.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Webb would have made killing Trump live on the debate stage a campaign promise

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

logikv9 posted:

Did we make a mistake? No, it was those black southern voters who were wrong

Did minorities make a mistake by not showing up to vote for Clinton in key areas such as Detroit, Michigan?

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

etalian posted:

No one was excited about Hillary, even certain bad dems who post in this thread.

It's not just about enthusiasm, a lot people plain were embarrassed to support her. Even her supporters knew she was poo poo and went through mental gymnastics to justify their vote. Hence, D&D.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Tiler Kiwi posted:

its weird tho, since you do have people in the democrat party like John Kerry who have proven themselves to be brave, bold, passionate about things that matter, but when put in front of a camera and told to connect with America, just sort of turn into waffling, indecisive, and ineffectual sods... yet again, like Kerry in 2004. in that case, a lot of blame was put upon the campaign staff and strategists, particularly Bob Shrum, who ran a stilted, cautious campaign centered around incredibly vague messages as opposed to challenging W. on things like abu ghraib. i felt Ms.Clinton's campaign was similarly overly cautious; slow on the defense, unconvincing on the attack.

e: got my lovely latin buzzwords mixed up

Kerry nearly got away with unseating a war time president

e:

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

The problem is that Democrats don't run o standing up for ordinary Americans. What we need to do is run real progressives like Warren, then we can reta-


https://twitter.com/jamespindell/status/823509050386247680

quote:

The live telephone survey (topline, crosstabs) of 508 voters across Massachusetts was conducted Jan. 15-17. It has a margin of error of 4.4 percentage points.

e2:

quote:

Reminder: This is the same polling outfit that, in their final 2016 Senate poll of the New Hampshire Senate race, had Kelly Ayotte six points ahead of Maggie Hassan (and actually had Ayotte hitting 51%). This is consistently a garbage poll and WBUR needs to find a new polling partner.



Nice try, CTR

Dead Cosmonaut has issued a correction as of 14:39 on Jan 23, 2017

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Is this your new thing? Posting tweets about how people actually can't stand progressive politicians as a way to defend the huge losses centrism has caused us?

I liked your other gimmick better. You know, when you advocated genocide against economically disadvantaged people.

He’s the new Mitt Romney.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
we’ll see how popular Trump and the GOP are in 2 years

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Serf posted:

i want them to be unpopular, but it really doesn't matter how popular they are when the country is gerrymandered to hell and back and local government remains a conservative fuckplane forever

they can’t gerrymander governor and senate races, go after those, then worry about the rest

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Sans Clinton, Donald Trump is deeply polarizing and this will play a role in how people go out to vote.

comedy option: GOP dumps Trump after he makes some serious foreign policy fuckups

Dead Cosmonaut has issued a correction as of 14:28 on Jan 24, 2017

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

mugrim posted:

The party going forward has to really understand that their number one job, especially for the presidency, is marketing.

No. The main job of the POTUS is to act as commander and chief of our armed forces and behave as our representative on foreign policy.

Trump is going to be such a foreign policy fuckup that the Dems should run someone who is cut for the job, not a complete failure like Clinton was.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

when did Bennett grow a spine?

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

The next part of his master plan to get the Democrats into a permanent stranglehold over Republicans is to run in 2020

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
It’s cool and all that people defend primaries that in no way reflect the results of an actual electoral map on election day.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Jesus it is like she was like born to perpetually run for public office and lose

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
I will not for the Democrats so long as Perez is the DNC

gently caress this stupid rear end party

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

radical meme posted:

God drat, is there anybody besides Bernie that's ideologically pure enough for you fuckers?

This thread reads more and more like a freep thread every day.

Bernie isn’t even that much of a leftist

He’s an FDR Democrat

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

zegermans posted:

like 90% of my coworkers. Maybe my perspective is jaded by the people I interact with daily, but I've never met a Trump voter that would ever be convinced he's anything short of amazing.

It’s been what? A little over a month in? Give it some time.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
buy a gun

it is your constitutional right

don’t let trump make a victim of ya

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

CrumFUNist! posted:

Bernie Sanders has gotten mostly Ds from the NRA and Clinton campaigned against him like he got As from them his entire career. Dems did the same to Howard Dean in 2004. Maybe they should loving stop doing.

Dems jerking off about gun control is so loving self defeating because it off puts pretty much anyone and everyone who lives outside of an urban area

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
The Democrats should about face and pass this sack of poo poo healthcare bill

Imagine the looks on everyone's faces when they do that

It’s going to gently caress over all of Trump's supporters

Dead Cosmonaut has issued a correction as of 00:38 on Mar 12, 2017

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Oh Snapple! posted:

gonna bring this over here because lol



Some particular bits I liked:

lol Obama is a complete loving disaster

he nods and smiles as Trump erodes everything he did in 8 years in a matter of months

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Obama definitely played a part in leading up to progressives putting pressure on the party, mainly because he ran on that rhetoric and then did a bait and switch with Geithner

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Nonsense posted:

The only way Obama would get a horrible political legacy would be the collapse of the Democrats like the Whigs, which even now does not seem likely despite how weak the party is nationally at the local and state levels. The GFC was really bad, and now Trump is likely going to have every American relive the 20th century in a single term.

What legacy will there be left? His policies sure don’t seem like they’re going to last much longer. The only thing that will be left is this supposed nostalgia for decency and a political center again.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Rachel Maddow is bad

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Concerned Citizen posted:

5. an aging state department it infrastructure that is so bad that half the state department uses private email and no one realizing why that's an issue

This part isn’t true. The state department didn’t use to have its own infrastructure. That was provided by the DoD.

Under Hillary, the state dept moved away from NIPR/SIPR because of the embassy leaks. She avoided the most serious ramifications, because NIPR/SIPR breaches are serious business.

In other words, Clinton bad.

Dead Cosmonaut has issued a correction as of 10:01 on Mar 22, 2017

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Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Has Corbyn been reported as a missing person recently?

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