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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

It's almost as if...wait for it..

It's possible to be rural in Ohio as well as rural in Montana. I know this might sound crazy but there is no clear definition between "rural" and "not rural" while some rural locations are more remote than other rural locations.

I'm from rural PA. The state has rural areas. So does Ohio. While not deep forested wilderness where the nearest gas station is 37 miles away the are still, in fact, rural. I used to live next to a cow farm.

My favorite "rural" people are the idiots from Western Washington bucking against the trend of the I5 corridor and embracing ignorance and pretending like city folk don't understand them when they all live in suburban hellholes and are at worst a 20 minute drive from major metropolitan areas. See the Key Peninsula and Spanaway for examples.

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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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OneEightHundred posted:

I don't really understand what the appeal of Kmart is even supposed to be, it's like someone decided to just make a Wal-Mart clone except with prices higher than Target.

The appeal of Kmart is that if you are ever feeling good and optimistic, you can go and get a big dose of despair absolutely free.

Professor Beetus
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Yeah regardless of where you fall on the full communism now spectrum, it's reprehensible that treating your employees well and paying them living wages is like some kind of outlying concept for retail companies. Government should have stepped in long ago on this and it's criminal how much wages have been allowed to stagnate in the last thirty years given the growth of GDP.

Capitalism is still plenty awful, even if there's a handful of less terrible companies out there.

Professor Beetus
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Well a lot of the online stores with custom tailoring or even off the shelf stuff have detailed guides on how to measure yourself for a good fit. I've found I actually get a much better fit that way than going to the store and buying something in a size that's either too big or small because what I really need is something between a medium and a large with slightly longer arms.

Professor Beetus
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What I'm gathering from the last few pages is that the extremely rich are extremely stupid, and we should be putting them up against the wall and redistribute their vast wealth so that it may serve the People.

Professor Beetus
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HEY NONG MAN posted:

They're empty people who have a hole to fill. It's not complicated.

And bullets can fill them as well as anything else.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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God drat if reading through the last few pages in this thread isn't doing more to raise my blood pressure than the Right Wing Media thread. What the gently caress rich people.

Professor Beetus
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hakimashou posted:

A good portion of the people doing the shooting just want to be the new rich people.

Nah at this point most of us just want healthcare and our basic needs met. Well, in a sane country those are one and the same.

Professor Beetus
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

It's a lot more complicated for women. I'm glad it works for your SO, but it's not universal or even common for that solution to cover everything a woman needs to dress herself. Do you think women don't do this because they just weren't smart enough to think of it? Why are you assuming women can easily find clothing that fits them within tailoring range and suits their needs on vintage store racks either? And three outfits? There are five days in a workweek and a lot of women work places where it would be unprofessional to cycle even a full week's worth of outfits over and over.

It's "pooh-pooing," and I have tried it. It's not a solution, just a nice thing for the occasional piece when the stars align.

Shopping for clothes too hard? Just do it in a more difficult, expensive, and time-consuming way using a more limited and unpredictable selection! Silly ladies!

This thread is about the failures of the retail industry in aggregate. You can always say "just opt out" to an individual person in an individual instance, but that doesn't change the fact that there are mass-market problems that should be addressed. And why are you being so consumerist and buying your clothes? Just get your own loom!

Do you have a chronic need to overreact to loving everything? I mean god drat, it's like you're playing a caricature of yourself as described by your worst critics.

Professor Beetus
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

o poo poo is disagreeing with someone "overreacting" suddenly everything makes sense

The guy made one small counterpoint regarding his SO and you jumped down his throat about it, going so far as to imply he was being dismissive of you because you were a 'silly lady.' That's overreacting, yes.

I mean gently caress, I agree with you about all the retail stuff, I just don't understand why you always have to immediately jump to the worst conclusions when discussing this poo poo with people in good faith.

Professor Beetus
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I thought the self check stuff was pretty standard these days, but then we bought a house in the poor end of town and hmm for some reason most of our grocery stores don't have them.

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serious gaylord posted:

My company had dealings with amazon and we put an end to them back in 2014 due to their incredibly shady practices involving fines to suppliers. I work for a european wide clothing brand and some of the things i've seen 'big' retailers do just makes me wonder how they stay in business.

Edit - In fact I could do a very long post about how they decided to stop paying us for 6 months because we hadn't invoiced them correctly for a pallet of sun tan lotion. The fact we did not supply them sun tan lotion, do not manufacture sun tan lotion or indeed, were not the company they kept calling us when requesting this invoice did not factor into getting this resolved very quickly.

MY GIRLFRIEND works for an environmental waste company with large retail accounts and I get to hear all kinds of dumb poo poo about them not paying their bills. It's insane how large companies can just say, gently caress you, I'm not paying this bill because I need an invoice copy in triplicate with x y z attached, and then I'm still going to wait half a year before I do.

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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

blue pallets are awful they weight a thousand pounds. I've seen some hosed up pallets at goodwill let me tell you. The worst is the weirdo one with little legs basically, so hard to get the jack under it.

I started getting donations from a large company and the biggest catch is dealing with all these loving blue pallets. They are massive and heavy and even living in a hipster population no one wants a bright blue pallet for their reclaimed wood project or whatever.

Professor Beetus
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OwlFancier posted:

You could always do the Northern Irish thing and pile them all up and set fire to them while trying to make the heap fall on the nearest Catholic/Protestant neighbour you have.

I guess I could try that, and replace Catholic/Protestant neighbor with "inconsiderate rear end in a top hat neighbor who thinks 1 am is the time to start blaring loud obnoxious music out of his Range Rover for the whole block to enjoy."

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

TB is a rereg of LF superstar Slashie who had a breakdown on the forum. She got into trouble for being a white jewish girl that claimed to be black and beat a man with a metal rod for catcalling her.

I think she is a pretty good poster, but it is totally fair to make fun of her.

lmao holy poo poo if true. I usually agree with her even if she's loving insufferable but that's just so god drat dumb.

The pretending to be black thing, obviously. More men should get beat with metal rods for catcalling until they knock that poo poo off.

Professor Beetus
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fishmech posted:

By the way if we look at the actual worst sprawl? It's all stuff laid out in places like unincorporated county land, which maintain the same low property tax rates as rural land in general does, and in exchange get barely any services. They also get barely any infrastructure, paid for by local government or anything else. Nobody's really subsidizing anything for them, besides whatever previously existing road between real places the development empties out onto, and which is unlikely to ever get upgraded.

Part of my job involves going to food banks, and the ones in unincorporated county areas are by far the busiest. We're talking 250-300 clients vs like, 40 or 50.

Professor Beetus
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Lampsacus posted:

tiny house movement in nz is for not rich young people and older people because our housing market is hosed. Maybe in the states it's more co opted by the wealthy (burning man vs. Kiwiburn) but like lol at the idea of tiny houses being conspicuous consumption.
https://youtu.be/9F04VQm7Y9s
Literally an altered caravan.

You can't have a good idea in the US without it becoming coopted by capitalist vultures always looking for the next thing they can get their disgusting greedy hands on and attempt to market with the help of viral videos and tastemakers.

Professor Beetus
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Cicero posted:

This is exactly what Seattle does and it's a good idea. It means parking availability is more consistent for those who need it, and reduces congestion from people circling around looking for a place to park.

Seattle also has pretty reliable transit that isn't completely terrible. I can't even remember the last time I attended an event in Seattle where I just didn't hop on to the 594 and get off in the middle of downtown.

Professor Beetus
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

Think so. Maybe it was actually good and I never saw it, but it didn't feel like it was.

No, they're not good. I was a dues paying member and they couldn't do jack poo poo when I was wrongfully terminated after a manager refused to allow me to use FMLA in a way that my doctor explicitly specified.

Had I known anything about my rights I'd have had a nice fat lawsuit on my hands but as it is it just ending up loving my resume over and sending me to retail purgatory for a few years.

The union didn't even bother to check in on me at any point in the process.

Professor Beetus
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Arglebargle III posted:

Anyway whether you work at a brick-and-mortar retail company or online retail company, if you are above store manager you go up against the wall too. :)

Eh, most of the store managers I've had the pleasure of working for should probably go up against the wall too.

Professor Beetus
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glowing-fish posted:

Ah, in Washington State, where I lived, it was really limited (but not in a bad way). Like Vancouver, Washington with a population of 180,000 people has 18 stores total. (Some of which are under the same management). Like each store is big and organized and they look well run. Like its concentrated in a few locations, rather than anyone being able to open a marijuana store on the corner.

Worth noting that this seems to have been relaxed a bit? They are all over the loving place in Tacoma and Seattle. Almost as ubiquitous as Starbucks now.

Professor Beetus
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Elizabeth Mills posted:

Someone said "Funko Pops are just Precious Moments figurines for manchildren" and I haven't been able to look at them the same way since, because :drat: is that accurate.

Those things are beyond loving hideous and I am shocked to this day they ever caught on. Who the gently caress proudly displays those abominations?

Professor Beetus
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As someone who was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes at the height of the Atkins craze, it was truly amazing. Like, everyone having low carb options wasn't that important to me, but what WAS was everyone posting the carb content of their food everywhere. Not having to ballpark poo poo was great for someone who was just starting out in the world of carb counting for insulin injections. Of course, once the Atkins craze faded away, so too did the amount of restaurants that posted their carb info. Most fast food places still have it available but you typically have to ask.

Also to that goon who has to piss constantly, have you had your blood sugar levels tested? That was my primary symptom when I discovered I was diabetic, because my pancreas decided to die slowly instead of suddenly and my body got used to elevated blood glucose levels (you end up having to piss out all that sugar).

Professor Beetus
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blue squares posted:

my bad I thought diabetes and fast food were pretty much incompatible

For the majority of people with diabetes (type 2) you're pretty much correct.

Professor Beetus
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Asimo posted:

Yeah. To clarify a bit, since I'm a type 1 diabetic and it's come up before, type 2 is where the pancreas can't keep up with the body's needs (usually due to obesity), while type 1 is an autoimmune disease where the insulin-producing cells stop working entirely. It's managed by manually regulating insulin intake, and while you still want to avoid sugary stuff (since it tends to spike blood sugar) you can still eat normal food and such as long as you count the carbs and adjust the dosage appropriately. Naturally it's still a good idea to eat careful and healthy since obesity makes it harder to manage the dosage (since you're basically combining types 1 and 2) and the higher risks of heart and kidney diseases and such.

Yup, although when I was first diagnosed, my gradual onset made it so I had become dangerously thin, which was compounded by my fear of needles making it so I was eating basically two small meals a day and avoiding snacks. My doctor basically told me to buck up and go eat a large DQ Blizzard a couple times a week or I was probably going to kill myself with anorexia.

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LeJackal posted:

Wasn't Sears also uniquely poised in the 90's to supplement Amazon before it even existed, with a robust catalog and shipping infrastructure, financial/banking connections, and the added benefit of B&M facilities to bolster early internet service? I recall reading an article somewhere.

Yup. There's an alternate universe out there in which Sears is taking over the world and Amazon.com is just a place for college kids to buy cheap textbooks.

Professor Beetus
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I always like to stop in to the Barnes and Noble near me and their selection of board games is actually really decent. It's just not really feasible to buy them there when I have a dedicated game shop nearby that sells them for less.

e: Come to think of it, I think the only thing I've purchased there in the last few years was a pack of Christmas cards. The Nook display is probably the saddest thing, but the rest of B & N is quite nice.

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Halloween Jack posted:

And then there's the guy who can't get it through his head that the zombie apocalypse isn't going to play out like a roleplaying game, so he gets raped to death while his toddler gets torn limb from limb.

Well, like you said, it's gore porn trash.

Lmao why am I not surprised to see that Garth Ennis was involved with this poo poo?

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Beachcomber posted:

Iirc, he and Warren Ellis had a competition to see who could write the best comic starting from the same premise.

Truly a clash of giants.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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I love how that loving tweet doesn't even address the fact that a bunch of people found out they didn't have jobs with zero notice. What disgusting slimeballs.

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Chuu posted:

One thing I like about Amazon Basics is that you know exactly what you're going to get. It's almost impossible to try to correlate quality and price without relying on brands because every independent seller lies through their teeth when it comes to the spec sheet.

Give me more upmarket Amazon branded stuff please. Amazon Basic bath towels are $15ish. Pinzon, another Amazon brand, sells bath towels for $22. I have enough faith in the brand that I trust the AB and Pizion towels actually are what they say they are on the spec sheet, and a 30% price bump is actually a fair price for the increase in specs.

I saw an Amazon ad for a neat leaking keyboard on Facebook the other day, it looked like some nifty retro future thing, almost like old typewriter keys, and I was like, neat, I'll check it out. I clicked the link and the motherfucking thing was 1000 dollars. Who spends 1000 dollars on a keyboard?

Professor Beetus
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TyroneGoldstein posted:

Which they don't because we have the premier rail freight network in the world. Nobody does it better.

/derail.


I'm ashamed to say that if you take my home rig into account and now the fact that I outfitted both my office computers with mechanicals...I have spent over 1000 bucks on keyboards. :(

You are probably terrible but I take solace in the fact that you did not spend 1000 dollars on a single keyboard.

I have a overpriced logitech gaming series mechanical that I love but it was a Christmas gift from my dad from years ago and I shudder at the thought of ever having to replace it with anything comparable myself.

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PT6A posted:

You can do all those things yourself, they just aren't particularly easy.

And, yes, frankly more people want thinner and lighter devices than the ability to easily work on their devices themselves. If you don't like it, don't buy one of those devices, but don't blame companies for following what the market wants.

The point is that "thinner, lighter" does not have to be mutually exclusive with "easy to swap battery out" but they'd rather sell someone the new iPhone than let them buy a replacement battery and have their old one keep on trucking.

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LionArcher posted:

(I work 80+ hour a week running my business)

Thanks, I needed a sensible chuckle this morning.

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Unoriginal Name posted:

Yeah, when the poor talk about working, they don't mean time spent at "education" or whatever you tell the IRS to dodge taxes.

When I worked 37.5 hours in retail management I felt like I was working 80 hours a week because gently caress retail. And that was all work, no sitting around, no browsing facebook bullshit, it was work the whole time.

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Baronjutter posted:

Yeah my friend has some high paying tech job where he HAS to have his company phone on 24/7 and has to be able to get into work within X minutes if he gets the call, that's on top of his regular hours. Some server poo poo its pants at 4am? Better get dressed.

I've even heard of this starting with some hospitality work. lovely bosses that don't tell you your schedule until days before? How about a boss that demands you always be on call in case they need some extra front desk person at the hotel, and if you don't come in quick enough every time then you might mysteriously see yourself getting fewer and fewer shifts.

There's no reason for it, it's entirely to the advantage of lovely lazy managers that don't want to plan things in advance and want to save some pennies by under-staffing every shift and then dragging people in only if absolutely needed, rather than just properly staffing shifts every day. It can make sense if your work is more like being a firefighter and it's impossible to schedule when poo poo is going down. I had a friend who was a pilot (boats) and they generally knew in advance when things were coming in, sometimes ships would get delayed or show up early and out you had to go. But for poo poo like a hotel front desk that just wants to save money? gently caress em, make that poo poo illegal.

At my retail job this sort of thing was common but it was less lovely managers and just a fact of life that was pushed down from corporate. You have x amount of labor hours, now deal with it.

And if you don't like coming in on your days off or whenever they need you, you get called lazy and poo poo and you can say goodbye to even your regular hours.

When I first started I would see retaliation on a regular basis by having my hours slashed from week to week if I told my boss no.

Professor Beetus
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Thinking that more capitalism is the solution to the problem of healthcare in the US is like thinking that more guns is the answer to gun violence in the US.

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thechosenone posted:

Well, what I was thinking would be like if the members of the NRA basically shot each other, hastening the demise of gun owners as a political force. So it isn't so much more capitalism, so much as the currently existing capitalist forces destroying each other for gain.

Yeah, I totally believe that a venture featuring Jamie Dimon and Jeff Bezos is going to be really disruptive to health care and not just something that fucks consumers over for more corporate profits. And by consumers in this case we're talking about people who need health care, not people buying TVs or getting home loans.

e: My prediction is that this will go horribly wrong, in a way that is not beneficial for most people. The words "simplified" and "technology" are really troublesome used in this context.

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dont even fink about it posted:

Finding a way to be mad about a job covering your tuition costs for a much better job, only in the Retail Collapse thread.

Whoosh.

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dont even fink about it posted:

This is all idle speculation by you, nothing of value. I heard Billy had to do 16 hour shifts and then the shift manager wouldn't give him tuition because he stuck his pecker in the water fountain.


Well it's not the GI Bill, no, and it's not even a white-glove program--Target does the exact same thing at its warehouses, for example.

Working a job while going to school, though--oh the humanity. To say nothing of warehouse jobs paying about twice entry-level retail these days.

Yeah all we've got is random hearsay and not a string of well-corroborated articles discussing the utter hell of working in an Amazon warehouse.

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