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Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Casimir Radon posted:

^At least they're not calling it a cinematic universe. Stupid disposable comedies have been doing the franchise thing longer than any other genre. American Pie vastly out stayed its welcome. The UK had that lovely Carry On series.

I was really surprised that The Space Between Us isn't an adaptation from the The Fault in Our Stars and Paper Towns guy because it's got a similar title and some manipulative emotional stuff going on. He seems like he's well on his way to being the Nicolas Sparks of YA lit. At the very least there's some good actors in it.

I'm predicting that both DC films this year will suck, but I'll probably see them in theaters depending on how bored I am around those times. Right now it doesn't look like there's anything else opening those weeks that I'm actually excited about, but that's not necessarily enough to get me out to see them. It's easy to pick apart Marvel CU stuff because a lot of it is pretty dumb, but the contrast between overall quality between the two franchises is stark. Marvel is obviously doing enough right, and DC is just a disaster.

I haven't read any of John Green's books (and they seem pretty hokey) but he's made about 200 episodes of a pop history programme on youtube that I liked. I wish him all the best on his journey to Nicolas Sparks level wealth.

Is anyone predicting that the superhero bubble will burst this year, or are we all assuming it'll drag its swollen, fetid body all the way into the 2020s? Will the giant tentpole movie system collapse, and take the whole idea of a cinematic universe down with it?

# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 09:38

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 04:33

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Carry On had some good non-innuendo puns too!

Julius Caesar posted:

Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it infamy!

But yeah they weren't amazing or anything, and there's certainly better comedy from both then and now in the UK.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 21:07

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

twerking on the railroad posted:

Well there kind of is. Just because Johannsen's character doesn't have nipples or a vulva doesn't make it any less inane to have a shootout where you have to be naked to be invisible.

I'm also not sure how it's going to pretend to do anything but slavishly copy the original anime now that Westworld's come out.

Late reply but in the Gits film (I have not seen any other gits things) the nudity actually serves a really interesting thematic purpose. The Major doesn't care about the way her body is perceived by other people because she doesn't see it as her own body anyway, she sees it as property of the agency she works for. One of the characters (I think Batou) gives her a jacket to cover herself up at one point because he still sees her as a person with ownership of her body, and thus someone who should care about modesty. At the end the nudity intentionally dips into the uncanny valley when her body starts straining and buckling during the fight with the spider tank.

I'm sure the authorial intent in the original manga was to have some robot cheesecake but the film turns it into this really interesting dynamic of cinematic objectification serving to highlight the literal objectification and dehumanisation of the character within the narrative.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 08:58

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Improbable Lobster posted:

Nope, you're misremembering
https://imgur.com/a/jXVle
It gets more explicit too.

Unsurprisingly, the author/artist now exclusively does porn comics.

My favourite thing about Shirou is that apparently after years of just doing porn he had a whole pile of notes and drafts for a new non-porn comic ready to go and then he lost them all in the 2011 tsunami, at which point he decided to just stay in the porno comics business for good. It's a real Charlie Brown moment, if Charlie Brown drew porn for a living.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 14:38

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Josh Lyman posted:

Should I go to a screening of this Friday night? It feels like Room crossed with 10 Cloverfield Lane:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84TouqfIsiI

Huh, I didn't know Split was directed by Shyamalan. I wonder if the guy will turn out to be four brothers instead of one man with a very tastelessly depicted mental illness.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 20:08

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I think another reason US TV shows don't adapt ongoing comics is that until recently 'comics' in the US pretty much meant a collection of very disjointed stories starring the same superhero but written by a ton of different writers over the course of several decades. It lends itself a lot more to an approach of picking the best standalone stories and assembling a season of tv out of them.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 23:57

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Sinners Sandwich posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kIe6UZHSXw

Power Rangers trailer

I THINK THIS LOOKS REALLY COOL AND I LIKE IT although i could continue to nitpick things.

It's hard to tell whether the film is leaning toward being earnest or sarcastic about its whole premise. Like the stuff in that trailer is a 50/50 split of the two, and I think it works a lot better when it's just sorta owning its silliness than when it's trying to undermine it by pointing out how silly the idea of power rangers, and all the trappings that come with them, are. I never thought I'd say this about a Power Rangers movie but there's honestly a good movie buried somewhere in there, but god knows if that movie will be what eventually comes out.

# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 16:12

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Yeah the first trailer has that shot where the bully tries to headbutt a teenager with attitude and gets knocked out so again like, jury's out on how this film is really handling tone.

# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 20:37

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Mierenneuker posted:

I would have loved to see Hail Caesar! but for some reason it had a limited release over here. I think it only aired in the arthouse theatre of the nearby city.

They advertised the hell out of it on television though so I have no idea what was up with that.

Hail Ceasar has a lot of good jokes but the plot connecting them all isn't very good, tbh. It's like a series of sketches about 'golden-age' Hollywood with a mediocre mystery plot in it, and the other major throughline, the Studio executive guy's character arc, didn't really land for me either. I think a lot of the comedy in it was genuinely really good, though, so it's a mixed bag.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2017 12:31

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

kiimo posted:

Waking up inside a shark would be so annoying

Captain Scarlet gets eaten by a shark in the opening credits of that show, which I always wondered about. When Mysterons replace a dead person the replacement appears near the body, but I can't remember if Captain Scarlet's body heals or whether a new one appears when he dies, I think it was a bit inconsistent.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 10:58

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Dinosaurs are cool but unfortunately they are just animals, which really cuts down on the number of interesting movies you can make about them because you've gotta jump through a lot of narrative hoops to justify bringing something into a story that really only wants to eat food and mate. Like it adds a lot of complexity to a narrative, and the net result is essentially the same as just introducing a bear or a tiger. Jurassic Park works so well because the dinosaurs fit cleanly into the narrative: they act like wild animals when they escape, they're there to prove a point about scientific overreach and the unpredictability of nature, and it uses the cultural fascination we have with dinosaurs by making the whole story about a theme park. It's all integrated so neatly, it's a great premise. Outside of that, they're really only good for time travel plots, lost world stuff and the faux nature documentary, which is why someone should cough up a hundred million dollars and make another Walking With Dinosaurs.

# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 14:51

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Are the monsters in Godzilla and King Kong just meant to be long lost prehistoric beasties, or are they supposed to be from space or something.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 11:58

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Gonz posted:

I'm interested to see how this is somehow worse than A Sound of Thunder.

I always get this film mixed up with The Butterfly Effect.

HannibalBarca posted:

saw an early screening of skull island; it was dumb but not bad. the production team seems to have taken the lessons of Godzilla 2014 to heart and the movie doesn't shortchange us on monster action, though they still seem to have trouble with having more than a few characters be anything but cardboard cutouts. Sam Jackson's character is well-done, though.

Is there a lot of humour? The trailers made it seem like a pretty lighthearted film, which I could go for.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 09:43

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Simplex posted:

If I were you I would probably be far more concerned with the relationship between the US military and Hollywood than Hollywood and China.

Yeah the CCP censoring movies for political content is pretty garbage but so is the way the US military deals with Hollywood, and also to a certain extent the way that other financial interests in Hollywood influence the political content of movies. Like, both China and the US have issues with those in power influencing what media is produced and distributed to the public and it's incredibly troubling. The CCP being undisputably worse about it doesn't exempt the US.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2017 16:50

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Dissapointed Owl posted:

Haven't we done this film like a dozen times now

This time it's explicitly, directly our fault (because we pressed the bad button on the weather machine) rather than being indirectly our fault (we accidentally caused global warming by being greedy). An insightful view on how we view human nature in 2017.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2017 22:08

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Samuel Clemens posted:

Baywatch was always super goofy, so the film is very true to the spirit of the show in that sense.

Hopefully they can get Hulk Hogan back for the movie.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2017 12:21

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

FishBulb posted:

The should make a movie out of Baywatch Nights instead

This seems like the obvious direction to take a sequel if the first one does well.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2017 13:44

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Implicitly, yes. He also practices autocannibalism.

Right - that's why he must impale other lifeforms with his (g)roots.

In any case, the point is to highlight the ideological difference between the films: unless you count the impalings-by-root Groot does not have any onscreen food source. Yet he obviously must eat to survive, let alone to perform his various special abilities.

I find it interesting that the marvel films have a very consistent moral system where it's a-ok for the heroes to straight up kill a lot of people without really dwelling on it at all. I haven't seen the more recent ones though so maybe there is a scene where iron man and hawkeye discuss how they feel about having taken so many lives.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 21:52

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

outlier posted:

I'm not sure you can blame that at Portman and her films, any more than you than you can for any other actress. Casting is a weird, mercurial thing that seems to happen almost independently of performances and box office. c.v. Angelina Jolie who was an A grade star while arguably never having been in a single good film.

Hackers is a work of art :colbert:

# ¿ Mar 29, 2017 09:44

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Does the adaption with Tim Curry have that bit in the book where the kids have a weird sex ritual in the sewer, or is that something it made the very good decision to leave out?

# ¿ Mar 29, 2017 20:32

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I haven't actually seen the tv series, but you're right, it was a really stupid question. Sorry for bringing it up.

For a less stupid question: is the tv series a fairly standard horror for the time? Because it's obviously this 'cult classic' thing but like, the new adaption just looks like a regular jumpscare -heavy horror movie from anytime in the last decade, especially the shot at the end where Pennywise just jerkily walks towards the kid with a spooky face.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2017 22:01

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

21 Muns posted:

It seems weird to me how Hollywood consistently tries to sell itself as progressive on many issues but particularly race, and yet is also consistently more racist than the average American (racist as the average American may be!).

I always thought the idea behind all that market testing was that Hollywood was attempting to be precisely as racist as the average American?

# ¿ Apr 16, 2017 21:57

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

IX is going to be the conclusion of the 7-8-9 trilogy, so I figure Disney wants to make as big a deal out of it as possible by releasing it in the summer.

# ¿ Apr 28, 2017 07:21

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Is there a greater theme/idea that ties the whole Dark Tower series together? Because whenever anyone is discussing it, it sounds all over the place. And for such a weird story the trailer seems really... generic, I guess? It gives me the same vibes as something like The Last Witch Hunter, where it looks like some fairly rote fantasy/genre fiction ideas without much visual flair or distinctiveness tying it all together. Child, Narnia portal, some goblins, a cool man, a bad man, and a vaguely post-apocalyptic world. And you guys are talking about living trains and lobster men! That trailer could have used a lobster man.

# ¿ May 4, 2017 07:56

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

basic hitler posted:

How many native Hawaiians are actors with contacts in/access to Hollywood? There can't be that many.

I mean the onus is kind of on Hollywood to go and find them in this situation. I'm sure whatever studio is making this can manage flying some people out to Hawaii and doing auditions.

# ¿ May 11, 2017 10:32

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

feedmyleg posted:

A few pages back, but I really wish that different comedy groups over time had all Met Frankenstein. Cheech & Chong Meet Frankenstein, Monty Python Meets Frankenstein, Key & Peele Meet Frankenstein. Big missed opportunity, history.

Harold and Kumar go to Frankenstein's Castle?

# ¿ May 28, 2017 22:31

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Lotta people in this thread discovering that race is a nonsensical, subjective social construct.

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

https://twitter.com/Sethrogen/status/872157050288996352

I'm interested in seeing the kid-friendly cut of Spider-Man, honestly. Superhero films are already hypersanitized violence, are they gonna remove violent scenes altogether? Is it okay to show a child a film about extrajudicial vigilante violence if you cut before every punch lands? Or are they just gonna remove the one swear word or something?

# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 07:30

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I thought Beyond was really bad, it's one of those scripts where every single thing introduced is a Chekhov's gun of some kind and it made the whole story feel very mechanical. The whole thing ended up losing any sense of verisimilitude for me.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2017 18:28

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

HBO should start adapting One Piece, it's pretty much just GoT with boats anyway. There's even a couple of dragons in it.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2017 12:43

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I have a question about the end of RP1. I know it ends with the hero winning the 80's quiz/treasure hunt and inheriting all the money from the dead inventor of the VR world, but how does the ending work tonally? Like, it's a corporate dystopian world, and at the end of the novel... he's just a rich person in this world now instead of a poor person? Isn't that kind of a dark ending, that the world is still poo poo but it doesn't matter because he's rich now? Or is there some kind of "the world is going to get better" or "the world is not actually that bad" element to the ending too? Or is it just kind of melancholic about the whole thing?

# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 12:25

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

If that is the ending I think Spielberg, a human being with empathy and the capacity to care about things other than 80's pop culture, will probably do something different with it. I'm kind of interested to see what direction he takes it all in.

Guy Mann posted:

Also, the new Del Toro movie looks pretty interesting. I'm not sure if it's officially a Hellboy spinoff or if it's just a movie that happens to star Doug Jones as a merman kept in a government research facility but it looks pretty. Plus the cast is awesome and after the recent Planet of the Apes movies I think it's cool to see more sign language in movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFYWazblaUA

This looks really cool and I heard Del Toro had a pitch for the Creature from the Black Lagoon that got rejected at one point. Maybe this is what he would have made? I'm glad he's making it, it looks like a really good small scale sci-fi/horror/drama story.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 16:17

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Inescapable Duck posted:

They already do that with the Lego movies, which have Gandalf and Dumbledore hang out.

It's kind of funny that the Lego movies do the whole enormous crossover thing to appeal to child audiences and directly evoke the tone of children playing with toys, and then Ernest Cline does the same thing in a book for grown men.

DC Murderverse posted:

I went through a list of books published under the SF Masterworks shingle and there's so many great ideas in there for movies that are just sitting, waiting to be turned into movies. And I bet most of the authors are dead and/or old so they couldn't bitch about anything!

Asimov's short stories about the robot psychologist would be a good fit for a Netflix/HBO original show.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 12:46

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I never saw ASM2 and I only found out yesterday that it had Green Goblin in it, I thought it only had Paul Giamatti and Jamie Foxx as villains. It sounds very bloated.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2017 11:36

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Iron Crowned posted:

You do realize that there is a not insignificant number of "conservatives" that view the Rebellion as the bad guys in Star Wars, right?

I always thought the conservative perspective was that the rebellion was one of those good rebellions, like the ones Reagan funded in the 80's.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2017 21:00

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

ImpAtom posted:

Gundam was tried actually.

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It, uh, it didn't go well.

Gundam is something that would probably work if it was done A New Hope style, where the movie establishes the world and tells a slightly smaller war story within that setting, and then the sequels cover the next several years of the conflict and its conclusion. The whole franchise is about very big wars that get explored over 40-50 episodes, so trying to cram all that into a single 2-hour movie wouldn't work, I think.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2017 19:01

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Inescapable Duck posted:

All I heard about Summer Wars was that it was basically Digimon with the serial numbers filed off, though that may have been a joke.

It's pretty similar to a Digimon movie Hosoda also directed, yeah.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2017 08:12

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Decius posted:

I always found the short life span of the Replicants an odd idea - you spend a lot of money and effort to make them nearly indistinguishable from humans, including fake photographs and mementos, memories and fear, only to throw it all away after a lifespan that's shorter than that of my current PC. Maybe the new movie goes deeper into the whole thing.

I always assumed it was a security measure, especially in light of the actions of the replicants in the film and the whole 'Blade Runner' job of hunting down rogue replicants. They're essentially manufactured human slaves, and a two-year lifespan stops them from organising politically or staging a rebellion or anything like that.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 13:04

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Vince MechMahon posted:

I checked out of Lethal Weapon after the first episode when Riggs' wife gets killed by a truck because she's not paying attention to the road and instead stroking her pregnancy stomach.

I saw The Mothman Prophesies a few months ago and I found it really funny that the whole story is kicked off by Richard Gere hitting a mothman with his car.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2017 17:42

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

The next Jurassic Park film should just be the Grizzly Man but with T-Rexes.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 09:04

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 04:33

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

achillesforever6 posted:

One of the more disheartening things I've been told about from my friend who is a curator of vert paleontology is how dinosaurs of the massive size like sauropods could not be able to exist on present day earth due to O2 levels on earth being way lower today compared to the Mesozoic (also plant's were way more nutrient rich due to greenhouse environment of Earth back then)

It's one theory, but as far as I know the dominant theory at the moment is that sauropods (and other large dinosaurs) were able to support their body weight because they had a lot of hollow bones, bringing their weight down and making their respiratory system a lot more efficient. So a large dinosaur would probably be able to stand up today. But probably wouldn't be able to find an environment large enough to sustain a breeding population, which is already a problem (relatively) smaller animals like Elephants have in the modern world.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2017 11:02

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