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TinTower posted:The government did say "hah no psyche" when it came to Boaty McBoatface though. Remember when the Lib Dems said "hah, no, psyke" about tuition fees and then got owned in the next election.
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Jose posted:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/oct/24/former-socceroo-steve-herczeg-died-after-catheter-connected-to-oxygen-coroner-told Christ, that poor bastard... How similar looking are the tubes that something like this could happen?
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Guavanaut posted:This is why I was always told to follow a wire back to its source before hooking it up. I imagine the same goes for tubes, if it's going into a dick, it's probably not the oxygen tube. *follows tube all the way to a wall socket* "how the fu-"
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Feb 1, 2017 11:32
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GaussianCopula posted:So in Corbyn's mind the best Brexit they can get will be achieved by giving the Tory government a blank cheque. We've not forgotten that you're a Nazi, and no-one asked for your opinion. If we wanted to know what a regressive idiot thought about this we'd ask Wolfgang.
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Feb 1, 2017 21:12
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JFairfax posted:speaking of a right wing dictatorship That's from 2016.
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Feb 1, 2017 21:14
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JFairfax posted:it says right there 2017!!! Sorry I'm full of poo poo - [url=http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-iowa-rally/]it was 2015[url]. God that election campaign feels like a long dream that you become more and more alarmed you can't wake up from as the people all turn into snake beings that eat children.
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Feb 1, 2017 21:23
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Wheat Loaf posted:She was equivocal about it very early on (at a point when even Farage was saying that the position of EU nationals already here should not be threatened by Brexit) so she has room to back down on it and look magnanimous. Part of her 12-point plan that had the press jizzing at her greatness dealt with this: https://twitter.com/Number10gov/status/821328509813587968
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Feb 2, 2017 02:23
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learnincurve posted:E: my 67 year old dad voted leave because he has a doctorate in economics, and believes that the trade deals we have with the EU are far too restrictive and long term we will be better off trading with countries outside of the EU. The Guardian's economics editor also made a similar claim, although he apparently ranted about Stalinism in his declaration.
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Feb 3, 2017 12:15
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big scary monsters posted:Isn't he trying to emigrate to the States so he can mooch off his girlfriend? I don't remember the whole story. He already did that. He tried to sob story in here that his wife had to turn to sex work to pay for him to come over but actually it turns out that her aunt paid for him to move. He sponged off his wife-to-be's aunt to move to the US and then whines about immigrants coming to the United States.
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/827500089430175746 *in extremely unconcerned voice* Oh no. Once we have lost the might of the SWP, left-wing politics will be doomed forever. Or more realistically the SWP is a cult of bearded numpties who dragged the organisation into the shitter over their desire to grift from it. Not to mention the fact that the SWP is part of that whole "left infighting" movement and always has been Splitter Number One. gently caress the SWP.
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Feb 3, 2017 17:22
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Also lol that you think the best way of protesting a racist molester is to put you arm round Rapey Dave Spart and go "it's fine if they're on our side!"
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TheRat posted:Yeah, this time it will definitely just be a one-off thing and not a massive distraction that causes untold harm to the actual cause. That describes the SWP perfectly.
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Feb 3, 2017 17:39
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TheRat posted:And this is why the right keeps winning. *watches Corbyn get fuckbarrelled for talking to the IRA, Hamas* "hmm, we should impotently protest a foreign head of state by hanging around with infamous rapists, this will solve our electoral woes"
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icantfindaname posted:is literally the entirety of the british press terrible? Reminder: a study of fake news distributed in the UK found it was almost entirely from the mainstream press, not fake news orgs.
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learnincurve posted:I started to feel a smidgen of sympathy for Foxler and thought that maybe given his own race and his partners race that he was just a bit stupid and very strange. Then I got to the end of the article and saw the picture and right though his web of lies. *puts on hitler moustache and googly eyes* Fail Foxler!!
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spectralent posted:Yeah, gently caress, this isn't a nuanced tactical issue, this is a "do you want to be buddies with people who will lie and cheat to help rapists escape justice" issue, and the answer from everyone should be "No". Wow sounds like you want the political left to be anti-rape. Why do you want to lose elections?
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TheRat posted:Lol Darth Walrus posted:Bloody autocorrect. Being fair he's using this to deflect from his advocacy of the Rapey Rapegang of Rapists Who Rape because it's easier to attack you for a typo than admit he's backed a horse that turns out to be four rapists in a costume.
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learnincurve posted:The problem is that people are cherry picking facts and figures on imagration in order to present their own agenda to the public. . It's all "Look how many brown people who have come over here and don't bother to learn how speak OUR language and taking YOUR jobs Rah rah rabble rabble VOTE FOR US AND WE WILL SAVE YOU ignore all the Americans, Canadians and Australians here on visas it's ok white immigrants don't count " And it's obviously fearmongering when people say this might actually happen to you too
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Feb 4, 2017 01:27
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TheRat posted:Sarcastic moralising from the threads most tedious leave-voter. What a time to be alive. An ad hominem from the thread's most tedious rape advocate. What a time to be alive.
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I just want my racist coffee mug why must you be so unhelpful??
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ronya posted:I wonder what Labour internal polling indicates at this point this implies there's a clear indication from the polling which there isn't because this issue is, for some reason, not clear-cut
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Feb 4, 2017 03:55
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I said it before and I'll say it again, Britain's greatest hope post-Brexit is to re-form the UK-Japan alliance since we're both xenophobic islands off the coast of the Eurasian continental mainland who have a national obsession with unrealistic fantasy.
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Feb 6, 2017 10:35
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Private Speech posted:I thought No to EU was the Lexit campaign. That's No2EU who are the EU parliamentary candidates for the Trade Union/Socialist Coalition, who are the main opposition to Left Unity. The Lexit group was Left Leave http://www.leftleave.org/
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Feb 6, 2017 15:43
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jabby posted:Jesus Christ, BBC news has a video of an NHS manager going around with a credit card machine demanding £800 a day from foreign visitors to stay in hospital. and yet when I do that at the sperm bank people call me a fiend
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Namtab posted:I said that that was the aim, I never said that the Tories would go for it, you asinine oval office Ah, I see you're using a basic understanding of 'maths' and 'counting' to come to your conclusions.
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OwlFancier posted:Labour minority in "having no legislative power whatsoever" shocker. But don't you see, the only way to undo brexit is by crying about it on the internet.
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Feb 6, 2017 22:32
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jBrereton posted:Has throwing away Labour's leverage and handing the country on a plate to spivs made Hungary less fascist yet Yep. It's a utopia already.
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jBrereton posted:"I'd rate the EU as seven... seven and a half... no seven... out of ten" - the most powerful endorsement of the EU and alternative narrative for the left within the EU framework ever delivered Out of interest how would you defend the EU from a left-wing perspective that isn't a negative about leaving but a positive about staying?
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OwlFancier posted:You might be able to argue that international unions are probably a practical necessity when it comes to facilitating any sort of free movement and that predation upon that by Capital is sort of inevitable as long as there are predatory capitalist forces, and thus the EU does probably represent the best hope for internationalist free movement, or at least any other arrangement would probably not be free of its problems with free movement. Which would be fair but given how Turkey's accession to the EU is treated by politicians as the suicide of civilised Europe, is it truly internationalist or a case of choosing solidarity of ethnic origin? This isn't to say that leaving the EU is the necessary response, but what's the positive case for internationalism when the EU is reaching the limits of expansion? TTP did not have freedom of movement in its deal, neither does the Canadian one. More to the point, Yanis Varoufakis said that freedom of movement should require a bilateral agreement of a minimum-living wage before that freedom is allowed to be recognised or upheld, citing the unwilling migration of Eastern Europeans (in particular, but EU citizens in general) because working conditions in their home country are basically "go gently caress yourself for peanuts."
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Private Speech posted:a) it's institutions are often more powerful and more apolitical than their national equivalents, and less subservient to interest groups (see the consumer legislation, roaming charges, ecological regulation) Firstly, thanks for the reply - I'm not out here to poo-poo them but wonder how it could be sold to the public. Let's be honest the Remain campaign basically waved pictures of bomb sites and made ghostly noises. (a) has its merits, although I'm curious as to how the effect of lobbying has changed in recent times. The ability of TPP to get as far as it did behind closed doors before popular unrest undid it made me suspicious whether we can necessarily rely on it. What can be done to counter a narrative of "they do things in secret and don't have our best interests at heart" in a Leave campaign? (b) also has its merits, but how does it deal with the rising nationalist tendencies in countries like Poland and Hungary? What problems can the EU point to in recent times as examples? Currently it feels like pointing to Greece being hosed (by the admittedly separate institution of the Troika) or Spain being paralysed or Portugal being eyed at arm's length or Italy circling a giant turd-clogged drain are more pertinent negative examples than we can produce a positive one. (c) I agree here that freedom of movement is a good thing, but how do you explain that to the ol' 'economically anxious' (read: mildly racist) people who don't trust immigration being in their best interest? I'm aware this is a hard one to answer because ultimately you're having to fight a proto-fascist mass media. (d) No argument there, although the average Brit is more likely to talk about how we beat the Nazis once so we can do it again... while also stroking their sleeve with the nervousness of someone not wanting to reveal their Celtic Cross. (e) Cynically anyone could argue they EU membership doesn't affect this. It looks like we're going to keep partnership with Europol for sure, and I think someone in this thread posted a statement from the gov saying we're going to reaffirm commitment to Euratom? These don't require full EU membership to be part of. I suppose when I say "defend the EU" I mean "defend being a full member of the EU rather than partner status like some others"...
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OwlFancier posted:As I said, free movement is very open to exploitation as long as there is an exploitative class with the facility to do so. Be it racial or economic. A bilateral minimum wage would simply be untenable with the disparity between economies and the suggestion then becomes "no freedom of movement for poor countries" Ah, I may have been unclear - the minimum-living wage is specific to the PPP of the country in question. The minimum wage could be €10.34 in one nation and €8.76 in another, according to the living expense of the country.
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jBrereton posted:The notion of workers having the right to migrate across the EU, and have access to healthcare, social services, and even to higher education anywhere in the 27 state bloc is an incredibly powerful left wing idea. Now try and defend that to the British public.
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Pissflaps posted:48% already agree its a good thing. No, 48% voted to remain in the EU. That is different from specifically voting on the basis of the argument put forward from JBrereton.
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jBrereton posted:Seeing as you're Johnny Leaver, what was wrong with that argument? Because I was specifically thinking what the left-wing positive case for remaining was. I know what I'd have tried to argue on, and personally I doubt it'd work. I was interested in your contribution.
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Namtab posted:Tess..... *rises from the sewers* rruuauuarrgh
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