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JoelJoel posted:Eh, I guess the down season is bad but the whole team is down. Like if I'm picking a goalie between the two I'm definitely going with the proven commodity over the three years of 910. Big man bang Stevie's daughter or something? tampa's going to be hard pressed by the cap (which was just announced to be likely to not increase next season) and has to economize where they can - they've already got vasilevskiy locked up for the next few years at $3.5 million a year starting next season, paying ben bishop $6 million (or more) is going to be tough when you have hedman's extension kicking in and drouin, johnson, and palat up for new contracts.
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:Calling the players "puppets" for their lawyers is at least a somewhat reasonable legal argument to make. However, claiming the players are too stupid to have their own thoughts and opinions is reeeaaaaallly bad. it's also really funny in an insane and horrible way because it begs the question of why these players might have such broken brains in the first place, which the nhl would have you know is obviously not because of anything that could have happened playing hockey
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so did anybody else here catch that they (the nhl? the habs? i dunno) named andrew shaw the "you can play" ambassador for the habs
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https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/827681661601054721 so i guess ribeiro's on waivers because nobody wanted him. also why would he request a trade, he seems to have it pretty good in nashville
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Feb 4, 2017 02:10
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The Dirty Burger posted:How the hell is Colorado so horrible this year? 13-33-2 record with a -72 goal differential is expansion team numbers. And they haven't even started the firesale yet! some of the quotes coming out of there make it sound like they've just straight given up. iginla straight up said he hopes he's traded somewhere that will get him to the playoffs, i think duchene said he'd be okay with a trade, and mackinnon said something about hoping that the draft pick they get from this season is good enough to make the next top 100 players list the nhl compiles. who would have thought patrick roy was making the avs look better than they actually were all this time
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Feb 4, 2017 20:16
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hakstol has the same look on his face as mike johnston always had
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Feb 6, 2017 00:57
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ThinkTank posted:I've said it before and I'll say it again. His is the face of a man who has killed before and will do so again. he had to have an accomplice though because he couldn't figure out a way to do any damage without being up a man
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Feb 6, 2017 02:52
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Ginette Reno posted:I'm hoping the Pens lose Pouliot or someone like that but it will probably be Rust or Hagelin which would suck. I don't really understand why people think losing Hagelin to Vegas would be that bad, because I see this relatively often. He was important in winning the Cup by being one third of the HBK line no doubt, but his contract is bad when you consider he's pretty much a bottom six player. $4 million a year for this season and the next two, for a guy who's never broken 40 points. Before this season started, I could understand that fear - he looked like he could legitimately be the best LW on the team because the other options were bad or uncertain. But now that the season's playing out, Sheary looks like he's a legitimate top six player, and Guentzel is too good for the AHL with a solid shot at being an NHL top six winger too. So if all Vegas wants from the Penguins is a bottom six player on a bad contract, that's basically the best case scenario for the expansion draft since you have to lose somebody. Rust would be a pretty "good" loss too because he could probably be replaced by Sprong next season, and is the third best RW on the team after Kessel and Hornqvist to begin with.
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Feb 6, 2017 04:54
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the promise of upside due to maatta's young age keeps people going. also he plays with daley all the time, who is basically what everybody thought justin schultz was before justin schultz turned out to actually be good. i can't bring myself to write him off as irredeemably bad but i'm not sure i'd be upset if he went to vegas either. i don't think there's any argument about dumoulin being better right now though, because he absolutely is, and it seems like a no-brainer that he ends up on the penguins' protected list.
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Feb 6, 2017 05:11
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cancer, mumps, two shoulder surgeries, getting elbowed in the head by brooks orpik, and probably some other miscellaneous injuries too
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Feb 6, 2017 06:03
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I really don't see why making the nets bigger is seen as such a fundamental and sacreligious change that it's seemingly a non-starter everywhere I see it discussed but somehow changes like making the whole rink bigger or eliminating offsides or other radical rule changes are taken more seriously.
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Feb 6, 2017 19:15
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iospace posted:Aren't international rinks bigger? Yes. It seems to be a reasonably popular suggestion that the NHL adopt international rink sizes with the aim of opening up the game and increasing scoring, but whether that will actually be the result is more or less speculative. Plus owners would never go for it because they'd have less seats to sell. Ginette Reno posted:The idea would be you tell Vegas hey we'll offer you xyz if you don't take Murray and you can still take whoever in the expansion draft (Hagelin, etc). If you don't want that deal we're just going to buy out Maf instead and you'll still get the same player you're getting now but without the additional picks + prospects. The NHL has to approve all trades though, if they're letting Vegas trade promises to not pick certain players in return for draft picks and players, I'd assume that means the NHL will enforce those conditions. e: also carl hagelin's out with a concussion after catching a chicken wing to the face in the last game 
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Feb 6, 2017 19:39
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If gostisbhere was a good team guy he would be happy to have the opportunity to not play in the national hockey league instead of stirring up his team mates against his coach
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Feb 7, 2017 04:28
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Are the Panthers still looking for a new coach or is Rowe actually considered their real coach and not a temporary replacement?
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Feb 7, 2017 14:18
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ThinkTank posted:I'm honestly surprised they're doing this now.. I guess they figured that they had made firing Julien inevitable and it would be controversial so they'd just get it over and done with while Boston was still high on the Patriots winning the Superbowl 
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Feb 7, 2017 15:13
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Gunjin posted:More choice Cassidy highlights: He sounds like a guy I wouldn't wish even on the Bruins.
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Murray's getting the start tonight even though Fleury had a solid game against the Blues so I think we can assume Murray's officially Sullivan's guy now and Fleury's just the backup unless Murray epically shits the bed or is hurt again.
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Come back soon geno I miss you
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JoelJoel posted:Yeah, must be really tough having a team so far down there in last place. Truly, we can all feel for Habs fans. Amazing they'll be a lottery team again this year. That's what, 3 years in a row? Just awful. *habs win the cup* habs fans: noooo we're never gonna get rid of therrien now!!
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Feb 9, 2017 03:54
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Aphrodite posted:You're coming at this from the wrong way. ACAB, All Coaches Are Bad
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Furnaceface posted:Im pretty drat happy with Q, even with his weird line blender tendencies. i didnt literally mean all coaches were bad, only to give a name to the mindset
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Feb 9, 2017 20:50
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the flyers probably shouldn't be wanting to make the playoffs this season anyway because they're a guaranteed first round exit team but if they miss they at least get a chance at winning the lottery for a top 3 pick
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justin schultz is gonna get a big fat contract this offseason from somebody because his stats are getting kind of silly now, he's 4th in scoring for defensemen and playing 5 less minutes a game and 1 less minute on the power play than the guys ahead of him. his +/- is also 1 off from the league lead at +30, if you believe in that sort of thing
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The only knock on the Caps' D that I can think of is that they don't have that clear #1 Doughty/Keith/Letang guy like most cup teams, but their D group seems pretty well rounded and their forwards are so good I'm not sure it really matters.Ginette Reno posted:I don't think have any statistical evidence to back this up so this is basically talking out of my rear end but one thing that always bothers me about the Caps and playoff hockey is they're not that fast a team so when it's the playoffs and everyone is going 100% all the time that seems like it hurts them more than it might other teams. The Pens gave the Caps absolute fits last year with their speed. The only thing that makes me think the Pens could beat the Caps is the possibility that the Penguins are just trying to cruise through the regular season. I don't know if they legitimately changed their system, the league figured them out or began catching up to them in terms of speed, or they just don't care enough to put in 100% effort, but they've never really consistently looked like they did down the stretch and in the playoffs last season. I feel like a lot of their deficiencies this season are down to not putting enough effort into certain things like backchecking or skating hard to win footraces, but I don't know, can a team really turn it on on demand? Of course the Penguins could also beat the Caps in some crazy series where they get shutout like 3 times and then win a bunch of wild track meet games too.
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Ginette Reno posted:It's not like the Pens look bad. They lead the league in scoring and this despite injuries to key players at various points in the season. It's mainly their defensive play that has been lacking, but the overall record is still great so it's hard to complain too much. They'd normally be in first place with the record they have but this year the Metro is so good that the Rangers who have a fantastic 35-18-1 record are in fourth place. Yeah I don't mean to sound like I'm too down on the Penguins - I think they'd come out on top over any team in the east but the Caps and they'd still be competitive enough to have a shot at winning against the Caps. I'm just wondering to myself out loud where their defensive game went because it was at least average last year on top of an amazing offense, and now it's in the toilet. It's not like Ben Lovejoy was the lynchpin of the defense or something. Or was he?? Maybe the Penguins can win the Cup again even with a defensive game generously described as "poopy" and bring run and gun hockey into vogue again, though, that'd be great. glynnenstein posted:I've watched the Caps since the mid-80s and the team over the last 2 months is better than any Caps team I've ever seen, taking into account the complete game they're playing. Individual players and lines on teams from the past have been more impressive, but this team has it clicking throughout the roster. They're flying very high and are going to regress in a few areas where they've been performing unsustainably, but it's still a very good, well built team with as good a chance as anyone in the playoffs. The past has almost nothing to do with it, but there's definitely no guarantees; good and even great teams still lose in the playoffs. Many of the Caps post-season failures have been shockingly close with "inevitable collapses" coming down to 1 goal over 7 games or 1 bad goalie interference call. This year's team should be a top favorite, but they still have to beat some extremely good and motivated teams. The Caps' luck with injuries so far is pretty insane. https://twitter.com/ManGamesLostNHL/status/827991604036247552 Lowest quality of players lost to injury and the lowest raw man-games lost.
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Mike_V posted:Does Franzen count for Detroit? Is he even expected to play again? I'm guessing the guys unofficially retired on LTIR aren't counted because even though Detroit's far and away the injury leader, they're not the only team with one of those guys - Pittsburgh has Dupuis, Arizona has Pronger, and New Jersey has Savard.
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AsInHowe posted:Kraft didn't come into a dead city and spent decades bringing it back like Ilitch did. uhhh he was pretty good for your sports team and city and i know he just died but that's a bit of a bold claim to make about one particular rich guy in a human history of hundreds, maybe thousands of years of rich guys spending money on cities
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Call Your Grandma posted:He's always got his free burgers for life. I wonder how high Condon's sv% or win streak needs to go before Trojan hooks him up for life.
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somebody yelled "PIZZA PIZZA!" during the moment of silence for mike ilitch at the blue jackets game with the wings today https://twitter.com/971thefan/status/830560945550286850?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw god bless that random guy
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Aye Doc posted:which coach is most likely to fight back and give us a bloody coach fight? probably one of those hard asses who's been around forever, a Ruff or Sutter. sleeper pick to KO Torts: Bashin' Bruce Boudreau if colby armstrong is to be believed, therrien's threatened to fight his own players before, i think he can bring it for torts
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just because they couldn't get it done the last time doesnt mean they cant try to get iginla a cup again
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AsInHowe posted:Unless It's Steve Yzerman yeah but he's not a tampa bay franchise legend so they can take him or leave him like any other random gm if he starts loving up instead of hemming and hawing because of his importance in franchise history as a player.
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Aye Doc posted:if i were a cup champion, i would definitely be finding a way to incorporate it into my sex acts after i gave it a very thorough washing, rinsing, and sanitizing i mean, given all the other partying and abuse it's seen, and human nature, it only stands to reason that at least one person has found a way to do something sexual with it right?
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you can't blame general managers for being cautious about trading, i mean look at how the blackhawks or the penguins or the kings hosed themselves over with their aggressive trading, and who wants to end up like one of those teams. better to just build through the draft and be patient, just hoard your picks and develop young talent like winnipeg or arizona or florida
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hifi posted:I think we're lucky that all the not good teams aren't trying to duplicate the pens/chicago/sixers method of getting good it's not like a bunch of teams weren't doing just that for the last several seasons for mcdavid/eichel/matthews, its just now most of those teams have gotten what they wanted and the 2017 draft is supposed to suck so nobody wants to tank for it
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is this a hoax? this isn't real is it? holy poo poo
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Therrien dumped on Valentines Day so the Habs can get back with their ex his last game with the penguins was also on a valentines day the last time he was fired from the habs he was replaced by julien so what im saying is michel therrien must really hate valentines day, and claude julien, among other things in his life
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:why did the Habs need permission when coaches are relieved, they are still under contract with the team that "fired" them and getting paid, they're just being told by the team to stay home and let somebody else coach the team. teams could theoretically bar their fired coaches from seeking employment with other teams for the duration of their coaching contracts, but virtually no teams do this because 1) it's generally regarded as a colossal dick move and would discourage coaches and other staff from wanting to work for your team in the future and 2) no team owner wants to pay a guy to sit at home and not coach their team, and letting another team hire your bum coach means their new team can pay them instead
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somebody was asking earlier if gallant was francophone so here's your answer https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/831676173071634432
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Cartoon Man posted:It's funny to watch the announcers play the hockey version of Clue, what happened, who did it, with what, and why? The other replays I saw had the Ducks announcers and they were going "aw c'mon that's nothing, just a little tap, why are they ejecting him for that??"
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