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Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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BillyBlanks posted:

OOh this sounds fun

Kevin Logan is a humongous retard

Logan's heart is in the right place but his style of "insult nazis until ???" is sort of getting left in the dust by better-researched videos like hbomb, Shaun & Jen, Contrapoints, etc.

Like I know these people are bad and why - how can I explain it to them in a way that makes them feel small without throwing their own belligerence back at them? His channel is basically only good for getting mad.

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Nov 3, 2015


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So when did Phil Defranco jump down the SJW baiting hole? He used to be a fairly decent "so here's some poo poo, I'm going to offer my inoffensive opinion on it" sort of white noise guy. I guess complaining about SJWs is the new white noise of youtube.

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Nov 3, 2015


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SSNeoman posted:



lol jokes huh

It's just a prank brah

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Nov 3, 2015


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The thing about teal dear is that you know he commissioned his avatar from someone who draws furry porn.

Just look at his face, that's someone who's practiced the "bored arrogance at being railed from behind by a 10-foot futa werehedgehog" look to a T. Oh I hope he drew it himself, that would reveal so much.

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Nov 3, 2015


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aware of dog posted:

Lol in the replies someone tries to give him cover by saying "he's just joking about how antifa are fascists!" Then Sargon adds:

https://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/861590798441340928

lol yeah this is noted Carlgon takedown artist Shaun and he's not giving him an out, he's giving him a noose to hang himself when he claims it was all a joke later.

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Nov 3, 2015


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Codex Occultus posted:

A disproportionate number of successful youtubers in almost any subject have some kind of UK accent for exactly that reason. Politics, video games, comedy, make tutorials, you name it. Americans just go crazy for the accents... even the lower class/regional ones that make actual posh English people sneer.

You have no idea how shocked I was to learn a youtuber called "Northern Lion" wasn't from Manchester.

Northern Lion is also a perfectly reasonable, likeable LPer and not an alt-right clod, in case anyone gets confused. Because that is the sort of name they would use nowadays, isn't it.

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Nov 3, 2015


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Reveilled posted:

I made a similar assumption about Jim Sterling for a long time because of his red-white-black banner/logo thing and his black shirt, gloves and trenchcoat attire looking a bit nazi.

To be fair his "character" is sort of a mockery of the self-serious "gamer" anyway so he invites this sort of misconception to some degree.

As I recall from my Neogaf days he was Gamergate...adjecent(?) for a bit when there were still a few rubes who actually thought it was a anti-shill, pro-consumer thing but he's since done a 180. He's good people.

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Nov 3, 2015


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Game Grumps is pretty chill, which just springs to mind due to their Jontron adjacency. His racism was why he got replaced right?

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Nov 3, 2015


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Ignoring the content of their arguments which I tend to agree with, I always found skeptic feminist nearly unwatchable in a way that contrapoints isn't. There's a frankness to contra that the former doesn't have. They have like a manufactured edginess to them that always came off looking silly. If I had to guess who in the online anti-reactionary community would kill someone it would be Coughlin, and then a member of skeptic feminist.

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Nov 3, 2015


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Uh...wth is Laci Green doing?

"actually racists and sexists are right about a lot of things if you take the time to engage them and learn from their perspective, here's a cherry picked example of political correctness out of control. So much for the tolerant left... "

Archer666 posted:

Oneyplays is fun if you enjoy lowbrow all around silliness.

I kind of made assumptions about oneyplays when I saw they used a caricature of Brianna Wu looking like a frankenstein as a thumbnail for one of their LPs.

Like, it's not illegal or anything, but if you know who she is and think making fun of her looks is a good goof, it potentially says a lot about your associations.

Deified Data fucked around with this message at 18:06 on May 16, 2017

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Nov 3, 2015


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business hammocks posted:

She got her start with new atheism, so maybe she was always partially one of the rationals underneath. That all gave me a huge eyebrow-raise, but I'll wait and see who she chooses to engage and what they talk about. I can't imagine there are many internet reactionaries who wouldn't drop the mask immediately, or even many who haven't preemptively expressed hatred of her.

I can see it maybe being a honeypot to attract more nazis to the table for the purposes of debating them (if everyone hates you they're not going to pretend to debate you in bad faith I guess?)...but I've seen as much inexplicable hate for Green as I've seen for Anita Sarkeesian and I don't know what she expects to gain from this. The alt-right to suddenly put down their pitchforks?

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Nov 3, 2015


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EmmyOk posted:

I can't agree with this enough to be honest. I've never heard someone refer to themselves like this outside of gamers. Even those GODDAMN JOCKS WHO ARE SPORTS NERDS!!!!! don't define themselves by the sports the follow. It's so bizarre.

I mean yeah they do, all of the time. I'm not saying that because I'm salty about having shade thrown at my hobby, I agree it's often garbage. That just means straight white men are desperate for identity and will cling to the most incidental things to get it. Gamers are bad but not uniquely so.

As an aside, I'm putting out a probe: a friend of mine who has some of the most confused political opinions ever (ardently anti-Trump, pro-environmental regulation, yet still won't call himself a feminist and thinks SJWs are a real problem) recently told me that SJWs are ruining Marvel by not allowing them to release books with white men as the central character. We had a convo about that I won't repeat because I made the points you think I did, but where did this thinking come from? Coincidentally I had a couple videos rec'ed to me the other day about SJWs ruining comics with diversity, one of them an entire channel devoted to the subject. Is this a new front in the make-believe culture wars or have I just been blessedly unaware of it the whole time?

Deified Data fucked around with this message at 17:23 on May 30, 2017

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Nov 3, 2015


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Honestly I'm exasperated at having to explain that no, just because there's a woman flying around called Thor, it does not mean that Thor is gone or dead or that he won't be back in like the next story arc.

Like these are people who can take Cap being a nazi in stride but god forbid a black girl flies around in an Iron Man suit for a while. I can't convince him that A) Marvel still runs tons of books about white men, B) Marvel's diversification isn't why their sales are plummeting, in fact it's a response and not the cause, and most confusingly C) Marvel isn't killing off its big-name characters and replacing them with minorities. There's room in the massive, massive cosmology of 616 for all of these characters to coexist.

Does anyone at least know where I could find sales numbers indicating their readership was down before they started getting inclusive?

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Nov 3, 2015


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WrenP-Complete posted:

I don't know what "reacto" means. Could you please clarify?

Reactionaries

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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I watched it before it went down, and yeah this is just grief of course. There's nothing wrong with the video.

On the topic of video take downs, Hbomb's Sherlock vid went back up yesterday.

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Nov 3, 2015


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SunAndSpring posted:

That's funny, because the act of DMCAing it just answers ContraPoints's question in the title: "Nope, it's actually the right."

Hope this makes it into pt.2

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Nov 3, 2015


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Huzanko posted:

Like someone up thread said - she's just been a piece of poo poo the whole time, she just met someone who made her feel okay about being a piece of poo poo.

I don't get it, see - if her whole appeal to woke teenagers and pop feminism was a cynical cash-in while she secretly doubted them, why not just be honest with yourself from square one and become another Karen Strahan or shoe0nhead? She's not stupid, surely she's seen the writing on the wall that reinforcing the beliefs of woman haters on YouTube and being "one of the good ones" is more lucrative right now than telling them why they're wrong. It takes a really weak conviction to do a 180 just to align with your SO politically.

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Nov 3, 2015


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rkajdi posted:

Agreed. While I sort of expect her to be normal unless CRG totally crosses the line (i.e. actual abuse, leaking pics or the like) I can't think either he or his followers will be kind about her. Maybe he grows up by then, but I doubt it unless he basically loses his audience by then.

From what I've seen and read in the comments of Green's "coming out" videos, redpillers are super hyped and accepting of this brave new persona. "Female SJW redpilled by MRA boyfriend" is like a wet dream to them. They want this to be true because it means it can happen to them, too.

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Nov 3, 2015


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I mean if she plays it smart here she doesn't necessarily have to burn any (significant) bridges on the left - we'll be scratching our heads the whole time and won't be too accepting of any apologetics she tries to play on CRG's part, but we're not going to send her death threats. She'd only receive death threats from the same folks she's already receiving them from, and nothing changes.

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Nov 3, 2015


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rkajdi posted:

Also, how could this guy think there's a big market for regressive stuff in indie gaming? I could see maybe if you had a game in the Oh Ra Bro Shooter genre, but indies have historically been a place that sells games about minority character and less right politics. And it's a smaller audience, so losing a chunk of your possible buyers over such an unforced error seems to be the kind of thing you just can't afford.

Haven't you heard?

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Nov 3, 2015


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I'm surprised they didn't use that one pic of PJW that portrays him as a smoldering hunk instead of the precious basement dweller he is.

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Nov 3, 2015


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Zenithe posted:

Lots of people on twitter are upset about the new wolfenstein game.

I cannot loving wait for these hot takes.

Can you link them? A cursory search turned up nothing.

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Nov 3, 2015


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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Doesnt Roosh talk a lot about how his poo poo will fail and that story about getting friend zoned and him scuttling the friendship in his books
I'd think never getting laid would be more like him

I can't remember who did the takedown of his book Bang (hbomb? S&J?) but one thing I remember from it is that sex is barely ever mentioned - as an instructional book it's mostly focused around "winning" social interactions with women, with sex viewed as largely the end result of that but not the end goal.

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Nov 3, 2015


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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

I'm not a huge fan of contra's aesthetic so I have trouble remembering the videos. They do good work though.

I won't tell you to like something you don't but you're missing out - Contra's skyrocketed to probably my favorite "SJW" personality on YT. She's (or he's) funny and weird and incredibly thoughtful, and this is coming from someone who at first had flashbacks to Skeptic Feminist's lovely cosplay when I first saw Contra.

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Nov 3, 2015


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Mr Interweb posted:

How is this rear end in a top hat considered to be on "the left" again?

To be fair I don't know anyone who says this. It used to be self-proclaimed on his part but does he even bother with that anymore?

It's comforting and empowering to people to consider themselves "the only sane one" in whatever demo they represent, hence why gay homophobes or female misogynists always seem to have a special venom to them. Maybe Carl is trying to channel some of that but as a token liberal.

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Nov 3, 2015


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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Are those animals real alter egos? Lol that teal deer couldn't make the cut

Teel Deer is either a legit a furry or travels in circles with access to furry art commissions (so a furry basically)

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Nov 3, 2015


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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Quite the rebuttal of his arguments there

Implying there's an argument to rebut.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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No, they just share an uncanny resemblance.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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Joe Rogan is a like Trump - the last person to talk to him is the last person he believes.

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Nov 3, 2015


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NikkolasKing posted:

Liberals cede ground too easily. They've already accepted Ronald Reagan as not pure evil and they are now saying Bush Jr. wasn't so bad, he was just surrounded by a cabal of evil geniuses.

10 years from now, "was Trump that bad?"

In 10 years when you have to surpass Hitler himself to even be considered for a GOP nod, yes, we'll wish for Trump but also death.

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Nov 3, 2015


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Honest Thief posted:

Guess it's time I quit my job and go into this youtube thing, has anyone tapped onto the 30 year olds who used to be way into nu-metal in their teens niche yet?

Gavin McInnes probably

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Nov 3, 2015


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Mr Interweb posted:

Wait, how are we supposed to read that? The feminazi gloats, then she looks depressed, and THEN she looks at the dude with the waifu pillow?

This is Red Panels we're talking about - every comic is a sad indictment of the authors worldview, intentionally or not. There's debate on whether he realizes this as he writes it.

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Nov 3, 2015


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I liked the coy reference to Chris being a racist in the 2 genders video. Like, we know, it's good. You can't really defuse poo poo like that by getting out ahead of it if what you're sarcastically saying is 100% true.

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Nov 3, 2015


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I mean the alt-right is undeniably a counter-culture, they've adopted racism and misogyny as their core tenets they're not really the point at the end of the day - it's contrarianism. Being seen pushing back against liberal democratic values that have saturated popular culture for the last 20 or so years. You find a consensus and then resist it because consensus can only be reached through groupthink and groupthink is for sheeple. The good news is that the alt-right as we know it will not survive its recent brush with the mainstream - they got their president, they got their congress, they got their liberal tears, they have "arrived" and already you're seeing the schism between the true believers and the chaos magick fucks who thought the election was a meme. Note that I'm not saying they aren't racist or misogynist in a literal sense - no such thing as performative irony, etc. I just don't think those are hills most of them are willing to die on at the end of the day.

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Nov 3, 2015


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Groovelord Neato posted:

but how is it a counter culture when it runs the entire government.

That was my point (probably expressed poorly) - a counter-culture that aims to seize any degree of political power can't do so while staying true to their ideals, and I think they're realizing this.

That doesn't mean that I thin there's hope for the Pepes or anything, they'll probably fall for a worse sham down the line, but I don't view these people as the movers and shakers they view themselves as.

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Nov 3, 2015


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We all feel great when mounted by Tom Brady

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Nov 3, 2015


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Poster Pittsburgh Lambic claims not to believe in internet Nazis in this, the internet nazi thread. Maybe take a step back and wonder if you're being trolled. And not even that well.

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Nov 3, 2015


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Dark souls 2 has a few redeeming qualities that were fleetingly there and gone and never seen in the series again but he doesn't really touch on any of them. 3 effectively ending the series broke a lot of people's minds WRT 2's legacy.

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Nov 3, 2015


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gently caress yeah I'm rewatching hbomb's DS2 video for a refresher and it's much worse than I remember. I forgot he took matthewmatosis to task for...using a shield? And expecting the lock-on mechanic to work?

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Nov 3, 2015


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I mean I agree but basically calling someone who does precious and hint that maybe that's why they don't like the game is silly.

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