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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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It's not that the messages are inherently simpler and easier to get across, it's that the right has endless resources and opportunity to propagate them.

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Oct 19, 2008


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TinTower posted:

Australia just gave us twelve points and we're on the left half of the bird. Clearly, a vote of confidence in Theresa May's Hard Brexit.

I can't imagine what we did in the last twelve months to receive so few votes from the European public.

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Oct 19, 2008


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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/15/the-guardian-view-on-theresa-may-and-workers-rights-a-start-but-much-still-to-prove

quote:

Those who say Conservative policies on workers’ rights are a contradiction in terms do not know their history.

I am so mad at this bad article

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Miftan posted:

:anarchists:

135AD: Epictetus writes the Enchiridion, showing people how to live a stoic life and have a stiff upper lip.

Epictetus is loving terrible, worth reading to remind yourself that there were improbably successful mediocrities even back in Ancient Greece.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Pissflaps posted:

Polling data has told us that labour disunity is way behind the leadership itself when it comes to understanding why people are turning away from labour.

Distinguishing between 'disunity' and 'leadership' as causes of something is not within the power of polls to do.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Your perception of party unity affects your perception of the leadership. Averaging over a poll sample won't clarify that.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Alchenar posted:

The only commentary I've seen by people actually involved in the NI peace process on Corbyn and McDonnell is that by lionising violent resistance at the precise point that the IRA leadership was trying to bring the footsoldiers around to accepting disarmament, their 'involvement' as it was represented an unwelcome problem for everyone.

Which may well have been the case, but you can hardly expect people to act based on the assumption that the government, while publicly furiously opposing getting round the table, is secretly working towards it.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Rolling news is just garbage, BBC News 24 is getting people phoning in one by one and trying to get each one to positively confirm the explosion as caused by bomb, presumably identified by seeing a ticking clock and several red sticks.

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Oct 19, 2008


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serious gaylord posted:

Its loving painful. This guy from Liverpool is really really bad and the BBC news guy is just pandering him obviously on air.

The BBC is now referring to him as having said he was 'blown twenty or thirty feet out the doors' which I think is an embellishment on even what he was claiming.

VV snap

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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You'd think if they were really serious they might attempt to assemble in Manchester.

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Oct 19, 2008


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https://twitter.com/showcasemassive/status/866800691263700992

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Can still keep hope that it's a terrible accident until they say the magic words "explosive device".

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Oct 19, 2008


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Pochoclo posted:

What we know so far:

- Manchester is a city
- It's big but also on a bigger island
- There was an explosion
- 19 people died

BBC News has informed me so far that the arena possesses a main area, a ticket office, a box office, a foyer, a train station and an entrance hall, but we do not know in what combination these elements sit or what any of these elements might look like.

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Oct 19, 2008


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baka kaba posted:

Look at it. We got MURDER and ATTACK, then one of the bullet points is 'possible terrorist incident'. Is there a situation where it's not terrorism and that headline is still accurate?

Surplus of crows overloads transformer?

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Oct 19, 2008


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Lid posted:

It's also that she was injured from outside the venue, at the ticket office, so there goes it was a crush theory.

There were definitely crushes as people rushed to get out, and there was definitely an explosion in the box office.

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Oct 19, 2008


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Ugh the BBC keep discussing bag searches like no-one in the studio has ever been to a concert in their life. Apart from anything else, they're completely oblivious to the idea that if there was a bag check, it'd usually be conducted in the foyer and wouldn't have helped anyway.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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kustomkarkommando posted:

There was those chaps wot starved themselves to death. Was kind of a big deal at the time

As I was reliably informed on Facebook the other day, if you run a hunger strike and don't die at the end then it's an insult to the memory of Bobby Sands.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Rakosi posted:

My facebook feed is full of "this is sad and all but whats really bad is how the tories will spin this!".

I hate universities.

That is actually what is really bad. For thousands of people continued Tory government is a direct threat to their life already, and a Tory government coming in off the back of a terrorist attack is going to look at right-wing policies for dealing with it, which judging by newspaper columnists on Twitter are a sliding scale from internment camps to genocide.

This might be difficult to understand if you're stuck on understanding politics as a sort of suited-up football match.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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They weren't, though. The bomb went off in the foyer.

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Oct 19, 2008


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AP posted:

Labour freely decided to put Jeremy "arrested at Brighton Bomber trial protest" Corbyn in charge with his pals Diane "every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us" Abbott & John "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle" McDonnell.

It's a bit late to be complaining all that doesn't look that great to the electorate when an event like this was always possible and sadly will likely happen again at some point. Even if the brand of extremist nutjob out to kill the innocent is different.

The "brand" is different in that one "brand" now has elected MPs in parliament. The comparison only remotely holds because our press are willing to jeopardise peace in northern island by rewriting history to make Corbyn, who is a borderline pacifist, look worse.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Glad to see the Sun is in on the campaigning ceasefire.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Oberleutnant posted:

I'm currently conserving and cataloguing a fuckload of personal papers of big time players in the empire including Lord Milner, Curzon, Cecil Rhodes, and a bunch of others who are less famous but perhaps only slightly less influential.
Your assumption is 100% correct.

I'll be very sad if the real Cecil Rhodes wasn't this Hank Scorpio-esque bastard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M5TthS-Bys

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Oberleutnant posted:

The funniest thing I can tell you is that Rhodes spent most of the 2nd Boer War besieged in Kimberley, throwing a constant fit about it. There are a bunch of telegrams to the Brit government whining about how if they don't send an army to relieve him personally and immediately he and his company (ie de Beers) are going to unilaterally open negotiations with the Boers.

There's also an unpublished report by the government's official military historian of the time, who credits Rhodes with single-handedly almost losing that war, because the commander on the ground (Redvers Buller) was ordered to split his forces to rescue Rhodes, which resulted in some serious disasters and setbacks from engagements with the Boers. This resulted in a major panic, and the entirety of the British isles was emptied of troops as every available soldier was sent to South Africa, and there was some serious handwringing about the possibility of invasion by a continental power. For years afterwards there was a long-running debate inParliament, the press, and public, about the advisability of instituting mandatory universal conscription and military training for all school-children over the age of 10.

And all because Cecil Rhodes threw a paddy about being stuck in Kimberley.

Wonderful. What a cock.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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AP posted:

Sinn Féin had MPs before the Good Friday agreement (though obviously they never take their seats) funny how those talking about rewriting of history have such a poor understanding of it. I'd have more respect for Corbyn if he was at least honest about his historic support for the IRA. Still he's done the same thing about EU membership since he became leader so at least he's consistent in telling people what he thinks they want to hear.

I mean, great? The point is that sympathy for republicanism is in no way even remotely similar to sympathy for ISIS as a position for a UK politician to take.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Pochoclo posted:

Correct. The media (other than maybe The Sun) don't really have an agenda other than making money. Every single thing they do is informed by that goal. Even the Mail just really caters to its audience.

Newspapers in the UK have been at best coasting and at worst wildly unprofitable for years. Individual journalists have a motivation to stay employed in a shrinking field, but the newspapers themselves are run primarily for their ideological influence.

e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/05/the-sun-losses-advertising-hacking-charges-profits-revenues

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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SteelMentor posted:

Man, if only we could figure out what makes these young, isolated, alienated, frustrated young men lash out like that. Couldn't be the volitile mix of depression and toxic masculinity.

Ah well, let's keep on discriminating and alienating them, that'll fix things.

Putting their entire families into camps is being mooted by some of our top columnists. A surefire solution that could never backfire!

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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new phone who dis posted:

You can't compete with an ideology that threatens eternal damnation and promises an eternity of bliss when people truly believe it.

Which is why the catholic church reigns supreme!

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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new phone who dis posted:

I'm sure being full of immigrants who benefit from the predatory form of globalism and multiculturalism currently being espoused has little to do with that. I won't be shocked when the communities that produce mass murderers vote to keep the governments who allowed that behavior to continue in place. Maybe you'd like to toxx on the general outcome of your nation's election instead of your chosen ethnic enclave? Do you think they will remain permissive as ever or choose strong and stable?

Mmm, tell me more about these communities who are tactically voting to preserve their murder factories.

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Oct 19, 2008


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new phone who dis posted:

Keep building that straw man! Everyone totally believes you! Make sure to act extra smug! It's what wins elections! Everyone is a Nazi but you and your buddies!

Will you gently caress off?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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forkboy84 posted:

"Actually neither of these upstanding gentlemen subscribe to the platform of the actual NSDAP and therefore checkmate libtard"

*adjusts shirt collar* oh the, uh, nazis, they don't really like me... those guys...

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Fog Tripper posted:

I kind of feel bad for Fans, having to go through pages of reports amounting to racism.

Fixed that.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Do it ironically posted:

I'm sorry I have a different opinion than you and that it makes you angry and upset maybe you could check out a local psychologist to help you with your issues so we can discuss like adults

Are you deliberately trying to be reasonablehitler.jpg?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Answer to every question "Vote for us and then find out". Hope someone calls her on it.

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Oct 19, 2008


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Not a complete catastrophe for May and her (applauded) Brexit strategy just got even worse.

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Oct 19, 2008


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Lord_Adonis posted:

That is certainly part of it, but Labour seem to be as evasive about these Brexit issues as the Tories (Without the antagonistic rhetoric of course).

Because there's literally no good way of ensuring these things and attempting to explain that would be essentially arguing against Brexit, which would be incredibly unpopular. Labour aren't going to jump on that landmine voluntarily.

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