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MrJacobs posted:No, she totally did. The film might not have, but that was her total motivation for most of the film. But it was also part of the text that the fairytale version of Creation the Amazons gave her was part of a deliberate conspiracy to keep all aspects of her status and the nature of the world locked away until she could discover them for herself.
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It looked to me like the boats that crossed through the shroud or whatever were already damaged and listing so they probably didn't have all that much further they could go...
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Jun 5, 2017 00:28
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I think it's more that they're timeless. Time passing outside has no impact on them.
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Jun 5, 2017 03:01
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Steve Yun posted:Whoa whoa whoa. Part of what made that line great in 1954 was that there was a twist after that twist. Uh, the sequence of events in the movie is: Eowyn stands between Witch-King and Theoden. Eowyn chops off the dwimmerlaik's head. Eowyn duels the Witch-King. The Witch-King smashes her shield and knocks her to the ground. The Witch-King does the "no man" speech while holding her up by the throat. Merry STABS THE WITCH-KING. Witch-King drops Eowyn. Eowyn does her "I am no man" bit. Eowyn kills the Witch-King. I don't think it flew over the screenwriters' heads. Well, other than that they didn't make a big deal out of there being a prophecy at all.
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Heh, "SMALL THOUGHTS"
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LionArcher posted:And no mans land is a more emotional honest beat than anything out of the marvel universe. That's basically it. Even as it ultimately pulls back from the feel-good glow of the snowy firelit evening in the village, it feels sincere and not cynical.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Which then leads into the Cold War and all the proxy wars associated with it. Hell we're still fighting at least 3 of those
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Mr. Apollo posted:I was just rewatching the Doomsday fight scene in BvS and when Lois Lane runs up after the battle to discover Superman is dead it's Diana who turns and looks at her. Diana understood. There's some other cool stuff around her in BvS, like introducing us to Diana visually while Lex is blathering on about Greek mythology at the fundraiser--seriously funny as hell while Lex manically bounces from point to point pointlessly while you can see and almost hear her eyes rolling into the back of her head. Also starting off with the definition of philanthropist, etc. Also later on, knowing about the sword of Alexander the Great at the museum event as part of her cover job (where Bruce's interest comes at it from the angle of his crime fighting), etc.
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Mr. Apollo posted:I was watching BvS: UE some more and I noticed during the Doomsday fight scene there's a part where Diana gets punched and she goes sliding along the ground and loses her shield and sword. She picks herself up and before she grabs her equipment she looks at Doomsday and has a smirking smile on her face. Almost like "Finally!" Was this something new for the Ultimate Edition or was it in the theatrical cut? A I thought it was an interesting was of enforcing the notion of her being trained as a warrior her entire life. I'm 95% sure that grin/smirk was in theatrical. In the Justice League teaser/trailers there's a line from Diana where she's like telling Bruce "they're already here" so maybe there's meant to be some intervening adventure where she leaves the world of mortals behind for a bit, but does end up stopping some sort of incursion against Themyscira. Not sure that enough of this had been plotted out when they wrote BvS. It'd be a neat bit of retcon if so. Yeah, Lex's entire set of blackmail against her seemed to be the 191x photograph and ... surveillance tapes of her doing normal-ish things?
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I always got the distinct impression that this incarnation of Perry White was also in the know, unless he's got 4th wall breaking levels of dramatic irony as a superpower and only uses it to goad Clark Kent.
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Detective No. 27 posted:My treatment of the Wonder Woman script: Not enough quips.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Also it's usually a bad idea for a top spy to be the best looking, most memorable person in the room which is why spies are usually pretty plain, nondescript people. (Frederick Joubert Duquesne was a bit of a looker in his youth but he wasn't all that in his later years.) Mata Hari is the obvious exception but in that case her looks were her cover. As we have discovered from real life, as a top spy nobody can remember you despite having met with you specifically, like a dozen times in 6 months, no matter how you look.
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DeimosRising posted:He solves or attempts to solve every single problem throughout the movie with an action figure accessory. All he was missing was the shark repellent and we'd have had a full set. I'm still sore they never made a busted-armor spear-wielding version of the figure. All I see is vaporware/scalped customs. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The last 3-4 appearances of Batman on film have convinced me the only humor these films should attempt is making fun of Batman. Hopefully Matt Reeves gets it.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Right, Lex has two parallel plans to lure him into stealing the kryptonite: invite Bruce Wayne over to his lab for a tour, and leak that someone named "The White Portuguese" is bringing a dirty bomb into Gotham. It's Batman that finds out about it, because he's total checked out of being Bruce Wayne. That was the best, if he'd had simply dropped by for that "collaboration" he wouldn't have had to 'leech' Lex Luthor's home network OR blow up half the docks and LexCorp's research facility.
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It also makes his scene around the campfire more poignant and reinforces the lesson Diana learned from Ares--humanity is lovely enough on its own and even the semi-divine can't seem to do anything about it.
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teagone posted:Diana being a curator of ancient relics in modern times is great Mr. Apollo posted:In BvS she has both a new sword and shield. DC and Snyder and that they're the "Sword and Aegis of Athena". I'm assuming that Diana's position at The Louvre gives her access to all sorts of weapons from antiquity. Again it's loving great that our visual introduction to Diana is during a scene where Lex Luthor is mansplaining what to her is actual history.
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We've seen Superman in some of the 'on the set' previews that has those scenes in the trailers right? They're cutting REALLY close around to keep him out of this trailer?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Ha, that reminds me. In the new Justice League trailer Diana is show working on the restoration of an ancient statue: Continuing again the running joke of grinning and bearing while mortals make up some poo poo about things that happened in her family's living memory.
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Mr. Apollo posted:In The Ultimate Edition of BvS, Bruce takes a handful of prescription pills when he wakes up in the morning. His nightstand has a bunch of bottles on it. I mean it's not Confined to a Wheelchair Man but it's a small sign of the toll being batman takes on his body (and possibly mind). Really, this explains the hallucinations.
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Mr. Apollo posted:I'm guessing they moved from a summer release date so as not to compete with Star Wars: Episode IX which comes out on May 24, 2019. We all know Star Wars is inevitably going to be pushed back to the holiday season tho
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Mr. Apollo posted:I was wondering why 7 and 8 were holiday season releases and 9 is a May release. AFAIK 7, 8, and Rogue One were all 3 originally scheduled for summer release dates then moved back to holiday season. Frankly it probably works out for all concerned.
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Hold on a minute here, there's "untroubled" and then there's completely unencumbered. Wonder Woman tilts too far towards the latter, her characterization being pegged at "innocent" until the series of reveals towards the end. And her insistence on taking the offensive lead at Veld is basically analogous to "macho". (This is basically the same direction I would argue for Fury Road, that both movies are nearly masturbatorily satisfied with simply showing us a female protagonist who can kick as much rear end as a male one in the same way a male one. In that, they are closer to the label someone gave Whedon's characters in one of these threads--female, but she kicks rear end, than the counter ideal of female, AND she kicks rear end) I suppose it's an indictment of us as much as anything that Wonder Woman is the best girl empowerment superhero movie. We've fallen far. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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Schwarzwald posted:She doesn't believe people have the natural capacity to be evil for most of the movie. That's a bit more than just being "pegged at innocent." The story is inextricable from character.
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Inescapable Duck posted:I think James Cameron kinda lacks the language for what he's trying to get across here, aside from that Strong Female Protagonist kinda just doesn't cut it anymore. And yet still too few of those exist.
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Tenzarin posted:Neytiri te Tskaha Mo'at’ite is a hunter, teacher, warrior. There's a point to be made here that, even as relatively simple as Avatar is, she's written as a participatory partner in the conflict and not a trophy or a damsel. She takes her share of kills and in the end is the one to ride to the rescue to shoot Quaritch off Jake's avatar's back.
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Tenzarin posted:She saves her love interest. A male role, but cast a woman.
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Neo Rasa posted:Michelle Rodriguez came back after explicitly dying in the Resident Evil series and in the Fast and the Furious series, so with four Avatar sequels happening I'm sure it's just a matter of time. Isn't Sigourney Weaver signed on for all the sequels too? I assume she'll be like, the face of Eywa, or whatever.
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Steve Trevor is no Kyle Reese!
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This is because superhero movies by and large represent a significant regression in fascist power fantasy from even 80s action movies. When faced with the easily foreseen infantilization of American action cinema Cameron, at the top of his game, stopped making them. True Lies is his final entry into that particular genre of the oeuvre. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Aug 27, 2017 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:I thought the author of The Hunger Games was a libertarian survivalist or something. I haven't read the book but it wouldn't be the first time the movie adaptation inverted the source material.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see why we can't just take her origin story and the whole movie at face value. It's a comic book movie. We get 2 explanations for her origin in the movie itself already and frankly there's no reason to expect either are altogether entirely correct. It's particularly instructive that the first one is even diegetically a fairy tale. And it does double duty, even--why, the storks brought you! VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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The closest we come is another Zimmer joint with the Batman motif with the Dark Knight trilogy, and that's mostly really the first two flicks. The third one is mostly him playing with combining the existing themes made of that motif rather than developing the motif itself.
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