UKMT General Elextravaganza 2017: Lord Buckethead would have won

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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed.
Labour	907	49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative)	48	2.64%
Liberal Democrats	31	1.71%
UKIP	13	0.72%
Plaid Cymru	25	1.38%
Green	22	1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party	12	0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party	1	0.06%
Scottish National Party	59	3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist	4	0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian	3	0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist	36	1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots	35	1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash	8	0.44%
Monster Raving Loony	49	2.70%
Space Navies Party	39	2.15%
Independent / Single Issue	2	0.11%
Can't Vote	188	10.35%
Won't Vote	8	0.44%
Spoiled Ballot	15	0.83%
Pissflaps	312	17.17%
Total:	1817 votes

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Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Namtab posted:

I don't believe in allegories, they get in the way.

I could give a modern history of the Labour party, but there's people itt better able to do so than me.

Blair helped kill a lot of Iraqis and paved the way for a lot of domestic privatization. Chaos reigned. Corbyn promised to save the party, party membership rejoiced, Blair's remaining mates went absolutely apeshit and tried repeatedly to knife Corbs in the back.

Reckon that hits the salient points.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 02:43

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 04:41

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Yeah, I got Greens on housing. Feels good.

Is there anything particularly anti-science about the Greens bar them not liking nuclear? Are they anti-vaccers or something? That'd be disappointing, but I really do think everyone in the thread is going overboard in their support for nuclear energy.

I don't think they're anti-vaxx, but they do support homeopathy to some degree. They probably do attract a proportion of anti-vax nuts though. I do support nuclear energy personally but if they were in a place to actually win seats I could be convinced to overlook that, we're just ready to be more particular about them because well lol as if the Greens are going to win more than one or two seats.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 04:55

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Oberleutnant posted:

No he played the original version, but it was the playstation port that took up an entire memory card for one save.

That was good times I remember having to buy a new memory card for that.

I still remember my most profitable line, too. Crossed half the map with a dozen stations, carried everything from passengers to oil. Horrifically inefficient, but I was an idiot child.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 20:31

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Angepain posted:

Pretty much exactly a week now until we will probably have a good idea of precisely how hosed we actually are. I don't know how many more polls I can handle.

I wasn't ready to have it laid out quite this starkly. gently caress.

e; In 1925 Hitler published Volume 1 of Mein Kampf, and the world has never fully recovered from his far-right bollocks.

Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jun 2, 2017

# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 01:31

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

TomViolence posted:

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/870250544299954180

edit: Oh wait this is from earlier than the one above.

Oh well

Cor, just imagine though :allears:

# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 02:54

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

namesake posted:

gently caress it I'm out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM

3 was a shite game but that is one of the most beautiful eleven seconds of audiovisual media ever filmed.

Also that QT was a proper hit piece, but it's a bit shocking Jezza didn't have a better answer lined up, he had to know bollocks about the Ra and nukes and Hamas was liable to come up. I mean I'm easily one of the most pro-nuke people ITT but a bunch of wankers who just want to look dead 'ard to the foreigners, they shouldn't be allowed the loving vote. None of them have the first conception of how nuclear weapons policy is formulated, how it is intended to operate in the event of war (nuclear or not), or even any of the arguments of their own side because they're that loving ignorant and just want to glass the Kaaba.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 22:43

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Pesmerga posted:

Every single journalist giving the trite 'the winners tonight were the audience, who are lovely and wonderful and amazing' need to be taken outside and given a good hard ~~slap~~ nuking.

crispix posted:

Who is the other Alliance/Irish non sectarian voter?

Was considering it, but went with Nats instead. If I was still there I'd want to try and save are wee country from the shite that is England and Wales.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 23:20

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

crispix posted:

I have voted Alliance ever since I got a leaflet from them promising to take down union flags. It's not a nationalist thing, I just really dislike the design

Tacky poo poo

Welp, been a wee while since I've had a good fight over flegs.

e;

crispix posted:

No. These men have all been playing a game of Civ 2 against Gandhi since 1996.

If that were true there'd be nobody upon this Earth more fanatically opposed to nuclear weapons than them.

Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jun 3, 2017

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 06:00

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Extreme0 posted:

Never underestimate the stupidity of British People.

So 420 Tory seats then.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 20:55

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

jabby posted:

Is it me, or has the the word 'cowardly' really been pushed recently to describe these attacks? I remember May and Rudd using it in just about every statement, now Khan. I only noticed because Corbyn always seemed to avoid describing the attacker and focused instead on the response by emergency services/ordinary citizens.

It's a trivial thing, it just sticks out at me because it's not the word I would choose myself.

Been that way for awhile. Don't know why it's come to the fore but there seems to be a very widespread desire to brand terrorists as "cowardly" and like you it's not the first word that would jump to mind for someone willing to kill and die, regardless of why.

e; ^ Yeah but when they do go after the coppers or a soldier, they still call them 'cowardly'.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 02:35

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Namtab posted:

The idea is that 'cowardly' is a negative trait. What better word is there?

"Murderous prick" seems to fit the bill but yeah fair enough, if you're identifying young men as the most likely culprits you'll want to downplay any sense of heroism, too.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 02:40

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

sincx posted:

Does this increase or decrease Corbyn's chances?

Manchester didn't seem to make much difference, can be written off anyway, but another attack this quickly really starts to make "Strong and Stable" look like the pile of steaming shite it is, and "20,000 less coppers" is a pretty fuckin powerful message at a time like this. Would have to be handled with great care though; Corbs himself has the nuance to exercise it but Christ only knows if some other dipshit is going to say something crass or the like.

I'd rather that we could discuss this political event politically in the remaining few days before making the major political decision of a GE.

I'd even more rather we could gain traction with the fact that Tory policies have caused vastly more hardship than every terrorist attack in the UK since the Troubles ended combined but if wishes were horses, Buck Bokai would hang out with me.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 04:58

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/liamyoung/status/871453501829914624

Though the Tories are still almost certain to be in power this time next week, it's loving incredible how badly they and specifically May have bungled this campaign.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 21:18

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

TomViolence posted:

They're only necessary or required in a society where private property exists and since their inception they have been the leading edge of capital and the state's war against the people.

They're still human beings though, despite all being bastards.

Hang about ACAB and all but are you suggesting that a society absent private property would see no other crime whatsoever?

# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 23:24

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Oberleutnant posted:

I don't think anybody would say that.

Well yeah, but then what's the answer if not coppers? I'd be the first to suggest that a decent society would have significantly lower crime and all but there's still going to need to be some sort of organized force for stopping criminals.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 23:33

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

TomViolence posted:

Certainly not, but a great deal of crime is due to factors like poverty, drug policy, immigration policy, foreign policy and any number of other policy frameworks that are part and parcel of a capitalist nation-state. The form crime would take in a society that is sincerely and credibly committed to the ideal of common ownership and mutual aid would be markedly different from what occurs in our currently existing conditions. There's nothing to suggest a hypothetical society which is horizontally self-organised cannot formulate a response to such matters. For an existing example of how that could work I suppose you can look at anti-fascist organisations stepping into the void left by the state's reluctance to confront open fascist organisation.

Oberleutnant posted:

It's a really complex issue, but as a starting point i think it's important to look at existing police forces in the context of their role as the special coercive arm of states build around a capitalist society, and recognise the that model basically isn't applicable to a hypothetical society in which the economic basis of society is socially owned.

Any entity existing for the purposes of public order would be absolutely different, from top to bottom for a start any organisation like that would need to be genuinely answerable to society - which the modern police effectively isn't unless compelled to be so by massive public pressure.

I'm crawling into bed now because im loving old as heck and need my 7.5 hours, but this is a really interesting subject and hopefully when there aren't 10,000 other major events ongoing we can have a good talk about it in the thread.

S'alright lads, I think I just misunderstood the original post that I was replying to, because I agree with basically everything here. I wasn't tying police as a concept in so strongly with police in practice; I totally agree that in a non-capitalist society they'd be markedly different at the least, I simply didn't conceive of it being so radically different that we could reasonably call them "not police", but I totally see where you're both coming from.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 01:05

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

ronya posted:

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/871861409377812480

the children are the future

Hope was, indeed, a mistake.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2017 03:01

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

forkboy84 posted:

Mods! Mods! I think Gaussian Coppola has hacked Ober's account.

(No, but really, people actually believe that Tories make hard choices. They make easy choices because it's not them who rely on the public services they cut. It's gross that this is even a narrative that exists. This country is bad)

The very fact that the choices are almost always harmful to almost everyone paradoxically seems to make them an easier sell. Your average unengaged John Q. Public is going to look at it and hears "Tighten our belts Gordon Broon spent all tha Poonds tough choices have to be made" and he'll say "Well that's an unpleasant policy, they must have good reasons for it." because an awful lot of people genuinely do not comprehend and/or believe that a political party could be deliberately that hateful towards the poor and disabled and so forth. So to rationalize the bad poo poo they see coming out of No. 10 whenever the Tories are there, they convince themselves it's for good reasons.

e; ah bollocks I didn't even realize how many pages back this was. Shite.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2017 22:33

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

jabby posted:

loving McTernan on Newsnight explaining that Corbyn supporters don't actually want to win power, in contrast to the plucky Blairites who are so hungry to win that they've actively sabotaged the party for the last two years.

Blairites are even less able to comprehend principle than Tories are. Tory principles are utterly reprehensible, but at least they exist. The only thing the Labour right can fathom is trying to win elections by staying in the center ground (regardless of how far that might move rightward).

# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 01:33

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

e; ^^^ "yes he won 650 seats and ireland voted to join the uk but has he recovered the thirteen colonies yet? yvette cooper for labour leader!"

Oberleutnant posted:

Im preparing my butt as we speak

joke's on you. tories aren't coming for our butts.

they're going straight up our cockholes.

Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jun 7, 2017

# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 18:44

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Probably going to have a good idea of just how hosed we are in 24 hours lads, I'd stock up on your numbing vice of choice while the chance remains.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 03:51

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

hakimashou posted:

Godspeed and good luck Britgoons.

Ireland = Cameron

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 06:18

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

An hour to go lads and lasses, then we can get on with Doomsday :kheldragar:

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 20:57

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Banano posted:

ffs who let Jeremy vine back on the telly

What are you on about, the Beeb's awful and bizarrely abstract nonsense is probably going to be the only good thing about the night

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 21:59

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Exit Poll

IF THIS IS RIGHT

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 22:01

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Beeb saying Amber Rudd might be out in Hastings

Fukken :laffo:

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 22:15

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Just imagine how this might look if the PLP had actually united around Jezza

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 22:18

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Countdown to the 2017 UK General Election lads, I'm gonna reckon a reckon that it'll take place in October.

e; :lol:

Dimbleby not a fan of currency traders.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 22:39

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Fingerless Gloves posted:

BBC busting out a stretched Jeff Goldblum

Labour... uh... finds a way.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 22:41

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

jabby posted:

If another election is called right away the Tories have to deal with the fallout of being the ones to call two unnecessary elections in the middle of the Brexit negotiations. A lot of the people who voted for them on the basis of 'stability' would be royally pissed. There's every chance they'd do even worse.

Plus it would come after the backstabbing of a leadership contest 'cause there's no way May's staying on (Unless this exit poll is absolutely off-the-wall wrong).

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 22:48

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Jeremy Vine's in a PS1 cutscene

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 22:53

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

ultrabindu posted:

Y'all are celebrating way too early.

Repeat this i out loud:

Hope is a Lie.

Well it's not looking like we've got PM Jezza, but this is a thorough drubbing of May and the Tories ambitions and is only going to weaken them. Might leave us with a hung parliament.

And sure, that's far from what this thread would like, but compared to how things looked two months ago it's somewhere between "loving ace" and "outright miracle".

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 22:57

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 23:05

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Ok I've gone from hope to palpitations

Aye.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2017 23:11

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

tekz posted:

HAHAHAHAHA

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 02:51

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Glasgow NE to Lab.

Christ, SNP are getting Clegged tonight.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 02:59

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Lovely look of genuine happiness on Jezza's face with that result read out :unsmith:

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:06

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Christ, I just looked it up, Jezza got just shy of 30k last time, he fuckin smashed it this time.

I am of course the neckbeard.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:09

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

jabby posted:

Danczuk just lost his loving deposit lol.

Now that's a good bit of loving news on a night that's turning out way better than I was dreading

# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:13

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 04:41

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Hahahahahaahha CHRISTIAN ALLIANCE: 69

NICE

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# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 03:22

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