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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed. |
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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
| Total: | 1817 votes | ||
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Was Theresa May actually out campaigning or anything during that debate?
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Jun 1, 2017 02:49
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18-24 year olds are polling like 70% Labour, and the next age group is also pretty heavily Labour. This thread is about what you'd expect, the only age group with a lot of Tories is 65+ and they don't post on the internet that much.
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Jun 1, 2017 10:04
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No, article 50 can be reversed. But it's not a politically viable thing to do.
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Jun 1, 2017 11:37
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Pissflaps posted:It's difficult to take YouGov's constituency modelling seriously when you see examples of its output such as this:
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Jun 1, 2017 20:52
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If the methodology is solid some will be wrong in Con favour, others in Lab favour. It should balance out to give a confidence interval for the overall result. It's an interesting approach, and one that I think is worth pursuing because as you've said national vote share is meaningless.
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Jun 1, 2017 21:00
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Boaty McBoatface won.
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Jun 1, 2017 22:46
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I thought we already had insider info on the dementia tax policy - it was thrown in at a late stage by May and one of her advisors without any real vetting due to her dictatorial style.
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Jun 2, 2017 08:54
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I think it's a reasonable point. People try to push the idea that the fox hunting ban was about punishing posh people, but the truth is we'd never allow the working class to do the same thing and indeed the bloodsports they used to participate in were banned long ago.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:56
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The bottom seems to have really fallen out of May's personal popularity. You didn't have to watch the debate or even read any analysis of it to get the main story: the woman who spent all campaign calling herself strong chickened out of it. I imagine there's still some more Labour swing due on that.
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Jun 2, 2017 15:49
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Grim4Corbyn got shared around a fair amount and may have got some young people to register.
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Jun 2, 2017 16:20
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mediadave posted:Social Justice is great and something we must all work towards, but student politics has always been a dumpster fire and this generation have the misfortune of having their silliness youtubed and tumblr'd for all to see.
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Jun 2, 2017 17:25
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The only relevant story is that May chickened out having an actual debate.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:42
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I thought his Hamas answer was good. You don't make peace with the people you like, you make it with your enemies.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:54
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Corbyn is too honest for his own good sometimes. Just say you'd retaliate with a heavy heart, not like anyone would be alive to call you out on it if you don't.
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Jun 2, 2017 22:03
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The nukes thing might not be as bad as it looks. 50% of the public do support keeping trident but some of them would probably be put off by the clear bloodlust shown by the audience and accept Corbyn's refusal to partake. The woman at the end did get a good reception afterall.
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Jun 2, 2017 23:52
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It's also pretty much the same story that came out of the Paxman interview and I don't think that was too damaging in the end.
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Jun 2, 2017 23:57
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Darth Walrus posted:That means that if Labour are smart and lucky, they can bury it altogether. Especially since it's being treated as a draw, and those are boring.
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Jun 3, 2017 00:21
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Corbyn stressed that he would keep trident and use it to negotiate multilateral arms reductions. I think Corbyn's approach is more likely to prevent nuclear war than jacking off about how you're going to first strike millions of civilians off the face of the earth.
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Jun 3, 2017 11:13
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He said he'd decide based on the situation at the time. He didn't say he'd never use them.
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Jun 3, 2017 11:15
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Trin Tragula posted:I'm absolutely amazed that there are people in here who are seriously making the argument that because Corbyn didn't explicitly say "I will not use nuclear weapons under any circumstances", this somehow preserves a haze of uncertainty around the situation that might be useful for the purposes of MAD. This is the most unconvincing argument I can possibly think of and you all look like a bunch of twerps who can't see your own hand in front of your face.
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Jun 3, 2017 11:22
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I don't think not wanting to kill millions of civilians in an act that would dwarf the impact of every terrorist atrocity in history is weird.
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Jun 3, 2017 11:26
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Baron Corbyn posted:Not quite...
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Jun 3, 2017 14:09
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It's not that the IRA and nuke stuff didn't damage Corbyn, it's just that it's already factored into public opinion. The IRA stuff was pushed constantly over the last few weeks and the nuke stuff actually came up in last week's interview in almost exactly the same form. I don't see why the same thing happening again would sway those who weren't already swayed last time.
Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Jun 3, 2017 14:14
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I think it was more complacency and trying to run up the score rather than secure the states she needed to win. She won the popular vote, and I think if she targeted campaign resources better she could have won the election.
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Jun 3, 2017 15:08
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The Banksy thing doesn't seem to have made any significant news outlets yet. If it does it will probably have a "this is really illegal don't do it" rider attached in the article.
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Jun 3, 2017 17:33
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ronya posted:how so? The EC explicitly warned GiveYourVote for this. The relevant bit of legislation goes
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Jun 3, 2017 18:25
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Pissflaps posted:Wow https://twitter.com/Ian_M_Scott/status/871098169391755269
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Jun 3, 2017 21:26
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The polls in this election are all pretty experimental and it remains to be seen which (if any) of the methods are actually accurate.
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Jun 3, 2017 21:31
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jabby posted:I guess the main takeaway message is that Labour has lost some of the momentum it's had recently, although doesn't seem to have fallen back.
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Jun 3, 2017 22:16
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The Run, Hide, Tell thing implies there might be a shooter in Vauxhall? There doesn't seem to be any information about that one yet.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:08
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I'm sure it wouldn't have gone worse if the 3 attackers had guns.
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Jun 4, 2017 06:47
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Yeah Theresa May was explicitly pushing Conservative manifesto pledges like her Orwellian internet plans in that speech (whrn we don't even know if that had anything to do with the attack). It's disgusting and I hope she's called out for it.
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Jun 4, 2017 12:08
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Ora Tzo posted:Police state Britain, chilling stuff.
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Jun 4, 2017 13:00
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Verizian posted:So the police in London called out May as a liar on sky news.
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Jun 4, 2017 13:20
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blunt posted:It was absolutely a political speech, but I'm not sure any of it counted as new policy? The internet stuff for example was already in their manifesto. Plus suspending the campaign is completely informal - there's no legal basis behind it.
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Jun 4, 2017 17:27
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I would respect it if May said 'Actually we should continue campaigning, we can't let them disrupt election week' but she is being dishonest by agreeing and then immediately breaking a political ceasefire.
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Jun 4, 2017 17:33
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GaussianCopula posted:Whoops?
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Jun 4, 2017 17:39
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Yeah the shoot to kill policy that Corbyn was criticising is nothing to do with how you stop people who are presenting an active threat.
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Jun 4, 2017 18:15
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I should probably feel guilty about it, but I am sort of amused by some little south London scrote picking entirely the wrong night to play the big man.
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The Insect Court posted:They buy tanks that go to sit in a warehouse out in a desert and rust, and warplanes that actually get used because it's harder to stage a coup with an air force.
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Jun 4, 2017 20:21
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to "They're apocalyptic genocidal cultists who can't be reasoned with, only destroyed!" 
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