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Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

OhDearGodNo posted:

For the OP, the Warhammer subreddit should be r/warhammer40k. It's larger and the mods don't ban you just for existing.

Seconding this, sending people to /r/Warhammer is basically child abuse.

Also, greatest OP. Thanks for the hard work on this guys.

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Shadin
Jun 28, 2009
Never played 40k proper, just modeled and been into the specialist games (I'm that one guy that actually got Betrayal at Calth to play the board game). I grabbed Dark Imperium because I hate money, but I can't decide between Dark Angels and Imperial Fists. I know the fluff, but game wise, what's going to be the main difference in play style?

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009
I've heard rumor of a Goon Warhammer slack. Can I get that linkage love?

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009
Those of you shitposting Ayn Rand, that's the wrong high school sophomore power fantasy. This thread is for 40k tia.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009
If nothing else I guess it's good to get a firsthand reminder of how terrible Atlas Shrugged is.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

HardCoil posted:

drat, somebody published that? My money was on 'fanfiction'

You're wrong, yet also right.

Also to post something besides addressing the terrible pseudo-philosophy, are there any Minnesota goons out there? I'm just getting into the game for the first time with Dark Imperium and figured I'd start looking for some action in the Twin Cities.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009
I know people are saying they don’t like the direction they’re taking the Emperor, with him being so cold and emotionless, but being an immobile corpse for 10,000 years and existing only in a constant state of battling interdimensional hellspace demons is bound to sap some humanity out of a person. I don’t think it cheapens the Heresy if the Emperor isn’t the same after ten millennia of an unliving torment.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

goose willis posted:

Will anything get rid of Krylon primer? The second batch of models I primed with it came out looking blotchy and gross and over-primed and I need to correct this mistake

I had partial success with Super Clean, but be careful when scrubbing because it won't get it all and some of it is bonded to the plastic, so if you're too aggressive you can really gently caress the model up. Just go over it with a toothbrush until it's Good Enough (tm) to re-prime lightly for a painting surface.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Zaphod42 posted:

Oh no people posting dissatisfaction in the 40k thread, defend! defend!

If people don't like a rule or mechanic or some poo poo you like, that's okay dude. If it bugs you so much learn to ignore it. Its just text on the internet.


Endman posted:

Getting annoyed about someone non-stop complaining about everything Chaos related and stifling any criticism are not the same thing.

Please heed Endman's excellent truthy statement and stop embarrassing yourself on the Internet, tia.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Serotonin posted:

Microsol and Microset. Works wonders

I’m about to invest in these, what’s the totally pro method of use for each?

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Booley posted:

Gloss where you're applying the decal. Slap some microset on that area and keep the brush moist with it while you position the decal. Carefully dry it with a paper towel. Wait a few minutes, slap some microsol over. Let it dry, repeat until there are no wrinkles. Varnish over.

Awesome, thanks for that. Guess I can finally use that ‘ardcoat to lay down a gloss layer.

Hustlin Floh posted:

Just rewrite your chapter's fluff to state that lumpy insignia is a mark of honor.

Unkempt Marines

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Star Man posted:

Hi it's me the one person on earth that hates metal minis thanks for reading

I'm with you. My preferences are Polystyrene > PVC/Urethane > Metal > Finecast, but the joke is on everyone because I won't buy anything not made of polystyrene anymore.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

BIG MEATY SHITS posted:

that's all fair, but we're two months into this edition and if i'm going to do things the proper, non :files: way, i may already need three books for my one army, plus the rule book. it doesn't give me a good feeling.

To be honest I’m impressed how hard they work to make sure everyone can use practically anything they’ve ever purchased. I’m a relative newcomer so I don’t need any indexes or anything but it seems like most companies would eventually stop supporting poo poo they haven’t sold in over a decade.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

ineptmule posted:

From my eyes-and-hands-on experience - and of products that people here applaud as being excellent - no competitor of GW yet makes plastics of an equal quality.

Mantic, Dreamforge, North Star, Wyrd, Warlord - all of their plastic products are at an equivalent point in quality to where GW was 15 years ago.

I'd love to move away from GW but as someone for whom modelling is the main thing I enjoy from the hobby, no other company comes close to the potential from their basic boxes of minis.

I bookmarked the Death Thread originally just to watch the convo when I first got into miniatures, in hopes I’d get the scoop on other manufacturers as good as GW that I might not have heard of. Turns out they don’t exist.

People can dislike the theme and the style all they want, but anyone saying that another manufacturer working with polystyrene, or other inferior plastics, is within ten years of GW is just trying really hard to justify their personal boycott.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Lord_Hambrose posted:

Their dead zone terrain is really good though. Just wish they hadn't poisoned their relationship with retailers. Would love to purchase locally. Oh well. :shrug:

Just curious, how'd they tank their retailer relations?

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

You're a bit off the mark there I think. They've been making the bulk of the plastics in Lenton forever. As far as I know the crown jewels of GW, the actual plastic army units, never went to China. Their simpler/bulkier scenery stuff was (may still) be made there. It came pre-clipped from the sprue and was a more brittle feeling plastic. They also experimented with making some FW kits there I believe, but they stopped that. They definitely still print books in China, but that's irrelevant.

Yep. Some of their printing is even done in the UK, they seem to only outsource the hardcover stuff that would be horrendously expensive. Or maybe they mix it up, but some of my soft rulebooks for things have said Printed in the UK.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

goose willis posted:

Is it because there's something wrong with the wolf stuff or is it just because they're corny

Yes.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

berzerkmonkey posted:

Until they inexplicably became insectoid Swamp Thing:


That's a real shame because I would really love to have Space Skaven.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

TheChirurgeon posted:

I'm OK with it; I'd rather not have every fantasy race have a 40k analog. Plus, Hrud swamp moster things look p cool.

I'd like to see the Laer get representation

The swamp monsters do look awesome.

In my heart though I'd still love this in 40k:

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

And they don't get to pick and choose about pursuing infringement at a corporate level. They are required to vigorously defend their IP by law.

This is the real bitch of it. Old GW was undoubtedly unreasonable dickheads about some things, but sometimes they're required to be or they risk losing the IP. This looks like the guy was just jumping the gun before having any information and assumed GW was the bad guy, though.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009
I wish GW would just cut the foreplay and make Primaris Marines the Real Marines. I have a bunch of Mark IV kits and I just can't bring myself to build them because truescale looks so much better.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Lord_Hambrose posted:

You know, I hear there is a great game where your MK IV guys can frolic with other well dressed soldiers.

That’s true, then I could be one of dozens of people excitedly awaiting 7.5.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Corrode posted:

Is it just me that really dislikes video battle reports? I hugely prefer words + pictures and I wish more people still did them.

Honestly I prefer words + pictures in just about everything, even most painting tutorials. I'm a luddite and YouTube has ruined the Internet.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Hencoe posted:

https://www.warhammer-tactics.com/s...rnament-players
Found this little article posted up on a local page, what's your guys thoughts on it?

He writes it well but all he's doing is replying to someone's generalizations with "nuh uh" and generalizing in the opposite direction.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Corrode posted:

It's basically 'water is wet' - factual but meaningless. The kind of guys who sneer at the whole idea of tournaments or competitive play are not gonna be convinced by it, and functioning humans already understand everything it says.

I think it would've been better had the guy asked the people why they felt that way and addressed that, instead of just going with the 'nuh uh' response to their claims. I don't attend tournaments for anything because of attending tournaments previously. I don't sneer at people that do, but the kind of people and attitudes I ran into made it not worth it.

Though maybe I need to get over it since I'm 1,000 miles away from my friends and have become a nerd hermit (nermit?).

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Wrong thread I know but that Firestorm box looks like a super neato idea. I love the idea of map based campaigns.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Shockeh posted:

This foray back into painting is the first time I've sprayed grey ever, and I don't think I'm ever going back to black now. Grey owns bones.

I have a way easier time picking out details when I prime grey as opposed to black.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Groetgaffel posted:

As for the tweet itself, I fully endorse any trolling of neckbeards.

I'm kind of terrified to find local players because of how objectively terrible every Discord or social media group related to 40k has been. Living a thousand miles away from friends confirmed as non-neckbeards is a precarious gaming position.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Groetgaffel posted:

Yeah, I'm in the same shoes basically. So I don't play 40k when I'm not visiting my friends that live about 1000 kilometres north of me.

Actually, while I'm on the topic, :siren:Cooked Auto:siren: didn't you live somewhere in Sweden, or am I crazy?
Any other Swede ITT? Pipe up if you want to maybe slam some hams some time.

I have a hard time believing that being an American isn't far more detrimental in this case than being a Swede. Haha.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

goose willis posted:

Does USPS even deliver anything anymore that isn't credit card offers or senior citizen marital aid catalogs or packages from Amazon

I think USPS is like every other service, in some areas they're great and in some they're awful. I choose USPS anytime I'm given the choice, my mailman is the poo poo. Talk to your local postmaster if you're having an issue, not some 800 number for sure.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009
I want Guard models that are Primaris quality instead of 1998 quality.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

SRM posted:

Yeah but the best IG models came out between 1995-1999 and were all metal

Okay my random choice of year may have been wrong but my sentiment stands, haha.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

chutche2 posted:

Aren't we at like a 1:10 ratio though

Man, I remember when I had never been on Reddit before too.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

richyp posted:

Yesterday was my 40th birthday I was feeling old as gently caress. Now I feel really old as gently caress. :corsair:

I'm about to turn 37 in November and I figure I should get my will in order. I always planned to grow up and stop playing with toys eventually but I guess that's never going to happen.

However, I'm impressed that these dead comedy forums from 1999 are still somehow attracting a new generation. Someday this place will be like the worst generational ship ever imagined, with future goons reposting long-dead lols from the search archives.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

chutche2 posted:

So there's a guy at one of the stores here who has a full 2k+ army of Sisters painted nude.
The greaves, gauntlets, and shoulders were painted up as armor, with the torsos and upper legs painted in fleshtones.

He was eventually banned from bringing them to the store, which is hilarious considering the time that went into them.

Stories like this (and 40k related subreddits) are what make me wish I had local Goons because I've never played 40k and it sounds terrifying out there in the wild.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Proletariat Beowulf posted:

Desperate measures when a man wishes for goony company, but even the worst of us assholes in this thread would be better than NaziGuard Guy or Freeballer Utilikilt or Dicksisters Creeper.

Right? 40k Discords and other communities have given me the irrational fear that if I try and branch out to make new friends I'm going to spend many a night learning about how actually men are the ones that are oppressed and how women only want to gently caress Chads. GW is right and good for wanting to control the online image of their games via the official social media accounts.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Broken Record Talk posted:

Fulgrim is one of the best books from the Heresy era, and totally does Slannesh right. Slannesh can work, GW just needs to do a little more to make it less "tits, rear end, and dick" and more "obsession to the point of total corruption".

Slaneesh is an important part of the Warhammer world. It's like bait, the groggiest nards and neckiest beards just can't help but dive in and create abominations that the rest of the community knows to ostracize them for. Without Slaneesh you might accidentally peg one of those people as normal and interact.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

SteelMentor posted:

More representation means more people in the hobby, a greater variety of miniatures being produced and it makes grogs super loving mad to boot. It's a win/win.

These are all the reasons I await Leanna Russ. Especially the making grogs super loving pissed part but all the rest of it too.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009
This is an affront to my very serious make believe world my toy mans live in that has never been retconned once since the 80s in any way.

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Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Corrode posted:

I feel like I should emphasise that the quote dump was all one guy. He's a black hole of awful self-regard.

Mmm. My God, Corrode, that’s some delicious nerd rage with a side of drat Millennials and Back in the Day thrown in as a free bonus. I wish we’d been playing Neckbeard Bingo.

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