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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Vox Nihili posted:

heres the dude running against Randy "Ironstache" Bryce



he looks like a nerd

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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

The problems dovetail. There are. Contingent of Dems that are diet Republicans who can only campaign on hey we're not those guys while being too buddy buddy with them

That is the weird thing. If the Democrats are going to use "we're not Republicans" as their rallying cry, wouldn't they want to be less like Republicans?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

zeal posted:

she was so rarely that fired up in public

It's like that "we came, we saw, he died" moment. Every time she got really passionate about something it was horrifying.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
This might sound like a joke, but I'm serious. I've never heard a convincing argument for why Britain wouldn't be better served by telling the royal family to take a hike and making the Corgis the new royal family

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:

they own a bunch of poo poo that's better off as functional government property as you would know if you read every post ever

but aside from that i guess i got nuthin

the corgis would inherit that property, and it would still serve it's current use

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

etalian posted:

Can't make up my mind if the most French politician story is how Hollande's poll numbers went up when he was accused of having a affair or how Macron basically married his High School Lit teacher.

I guess I would the give the award to the guy who died in the middle of a getting blowjob from his mistress.

by basically you mean literally. that part of the wikipedia page is great

quote:

Macron is married to Brigitte Trogneux,[128] 24 years his senior,[129] who was his teacher in La Providence High School in Amiens.[130][131] They first met when he was a 15-year-old student and she was a 39-year-old teacher, but only became a couple once he was 18.

she totally statutory raped him

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The age of consent in Spain was still 13 up to 2013.

What did they lower it to?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

I guess when the Dem leadership specifically says single payer and public options are off the table these are the only sort of ideas you are allowed to have

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

FuriousxGeorge posted:

I can't fathom any way the dems can lose in 2018.

Imagine if they decided not to spend any money on longshot races, and instead focused on winning a narrow majority. Like, that was their goal. Now imagine that they actively sabotage candidates that are too far to the left, and prop up carpet bagging centrists. Now imagine that their primary message is "russia russia russia, Trump is personally a bad man" and also that is their only message.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

FuriousxGeorge posted:

They still shouldn't lose.

Nobody really responded to this post, but I think it deserves a lot of attention. This notion that has taken firm hold of Democrats that they "should" win. It's insane. It's completely divorced from reality. The idea that Democrats are owed votes from the American people purely because their polices are less harmful than the Republicans'. It has never worked. And it doesn't even make sense. But it's such a set part of Democrats' worldview. Like the completely accepted idea that Texas will go blue sometime in the next couple decades. Based purely on Demographics. Latinos will have no choice but to vote Democrat, because the Republicans are racist. Are the Democratic policies good for Latinos? Not really, but they aren't as bad as the Republicans. Therefore eternal electoral dominance is assured! It's such nonsense.

And it had the biggest test ever last year. The 2016 election was the perfect test of the Democratic theory that Democrats "should" win because Republicans are bad people. They ran a candidate who never even pretended like she would make anyone's life better, ran completely on the faults of her Republican opponent. And that resulted in total electoral defeat for Democrats at every level. But furiousxgeorge still says Democrats "should win"

gently caress that, Democrats are owed nothing. They lose and they deserve to lose. There is no should.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Democrats believed they could win by weight of demographics in a country where less than half of eligible adults even bother to vote, and all of their "natural" constituencies are the poorest and least likely to turn out.

And Democratic policies are massively harmful to those communities. Democrats support payday loans, support the war on drugs, are opposed to universal healthcare, are opposed to 15 dollar minimum wage. Those policies are devastating to poor communities of color.

But Republican policies are worse, so eternal Democratic electoral dominance is guaranteed!

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

How is that good?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Joementum posted:

"Trees, not as huggable as you thought"


gonna be thinking about that one for a while

Isn't there a tree in Australia where the sap is a neurotoxin and the bark causes rashes and the leaves are a third kind of poisonous?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Squizzle posted:

harshing my 4th july buzz is probateable until i sober up or fall asleep

this thread needs special notice

im checkin in v sporadically but you never know!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usjWVkHz7pY

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
About that sticker thing.

The Democrats are definitely going to lose seats next year, aren't they?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
I've been thinking about hey the idpol vs. economic justice debate between leftists and liberals seems so circular and unproductive. I don't think it's an actual policy disagreement, or a messaging problem. I don't even think it's a disingenuous attack on Bernie Bros by Clintonistas. I think this debate reveals a fundamental difference in the way the two sides think about the issue

This might be completely wrong, or already discussed, but whatever.

I think of it as Solidarity vs. Privilege.

The leftists don't understand the accusation that they're sacrificing racial justice for economic justice, because to the leftist those two issues are fundamentally intertwined. Leftists think of it as an issue of solidarity. Back in the day a common strike-breaking technique was to hire black scabs. That was bad for the unions because it undermined the effectiveness of strikes. But the only reason that there were black people available to do scab work was because the unions wouldn't let black people join. So the black people couldn't get good union jobs, didn't see the benefits of unions, and had no reason not to do scab work. The solution is simple; get blacks into the same unions as whites. Black workers received the benefits of union membership, and the white workers couldn't be undermined by black scabs. Being less racist was part and parcel of a more effective labor movement. Solidarity among workers of all races led to material benefits for them all.

The liberals see things as an issue of privilege. White people gain the benefit of privilege when black people have less than whites. It's a zero sum game. For blacks to gain, whites must lose. So racial justice and economic aren't just not intertwined, they're actually at odds with each other.

That's the problem right there, leftists and liberals are coming at the issue from contradictory assumptions.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Squizzle posted:

a $200 guillotine would be p shoddy

you could probably get away with $200 just for the lumber. I dunno how much a guillotine blade cots, but I bet it's a surprising amount.

of course, that's not taking into account the cost of your labor, which is problematic

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Baloogan posted:

lamo just get a car door, hammer it out and sharpen

if we're not building a quality machine that can be safely and reliably used, then we might as well just use a tactical hatchet

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

UHD posted:

what's the diff between a tactical hatchet and a regular one

more tactical

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
I've always been a fan of forced marches

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

UHD posted:

pro suck zone thread title

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Squizzle posted:

you need something that holds its edge well over time w p severe work(passing thru people)

can't we just crucify them?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ytlaya posted:

I feel like this argument would be more persuasive if there were actually a reasonable number of examples of either people being fired for saying/doing things that weren't actually terrible or the right turning this tactic against people in the method described. But in practice I'm not sure there's ever been one of these situations where 1. the person fired wasn't actually a total shitheel or 2. there was some repercussions for wrongfully terminating them.

edit: The assumption that the right would be less likely to use these tactics if the left didn't use them also seems highly questionable.

there was that time a guy made a joke about "dongle" sounding like a term for penis while sitting in the audience of tech thing and a woman overheard him and turned it into a big thing on twitter and got him fired for it. And then people got mad about that and got the woman fired.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/how-dongle-jokes-got-two-people-fired-and-led-to-ddos-attacks/

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

loquacius posted:

Just for fun here's another cartoon that showed up this morning



The guy in this comic is supposed to be unsympathetic apparently???

Goddamn, Malia looking rough

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

i mean, correct me if i'm wrong here, but i am under the assumption that the lib-dems are even more inconsequential than the democrats are here in tennessee.

is corbyn's stance on not privatizing the nhs what has dean's clients making him dish out that hot-assed take?

A few years back the Lib Dems got elected by promising to be to the left of both the Tories and Labour. The second they got in power they abandoned all their promises and worked with the Tories to bring more punishing austerity to Britain. In the next election they lost a ton of seats and almost all their power.

You can see why the Democrats would like them

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

It's no big deal her brother Quatre Raberba will break her out of prison.

I get it

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Don't even joke, she would absolutely be willing to do that and would absolutely be able to find people to fund it

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

Teddy Roosevelt, a terrible foreign policy nightmare and domestic ok person was elected in 1900.

LBJ, a terrible foreign policy nightmare and domestic ok person was elected in 1960.

Tulsi 2020.

This is why I get a little exasperated at people who immediately rule out Gabbard because of her foreign policy positions. Yeah, she's a mixed bag, but jesus Christ look at the other contenders, Harris and Booker and etc. Just as bad on foreign policy but also way worse on domestic policy. Good on some stuff and bad on other stuff is a hell of a lot better than OK on a few things but mostly bad on everything.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

UHD posted:

"vote for this person because have you seen the other guys???"

I'm not saying go hard in for Gabbard from day one. As much as we hate the hillfolk, and with good reason, they're still a big part of the party. Gabbard is a compromise, she's good on domestic policy, but will keep funding the MIC and endless pointless middle east interventions like the Clintonites want.

And it's not like there's an American Corbyn. There's no perfect candidate who actually explicitly rejects imperialism. Didn't even Bernie support the war in Afghanistan?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

loquacius posted:

thank god someone who isn't Zuck is talking about this

There was a Chapo episode about how there are also bad versions of UBI out there (libertarians who want to just replace the entire social safety net with it) and I trust Keith a lot more than Zuck to make sure people are talking about this idea the right way

the nightmare scenario is that we get UBI but keep Obamacare. The cost of healthcare keeps growing, and pretty quickly the lion's share of your UBI payment goes straight to a health insurance company.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Isn't there a Juggalo publishing house that puts out Juggalo fiction?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

anime was right posted:

read this in its entirety, its a real fuckin trip holy poo poo

read it? we lived it

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Raskolnikov38 posted:

A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another

- Thomas Jefferson

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rand alPaul posted:

Hey what's the good place to donate money for Hurricane Harvey that isn't some scam that loving pays their CEO's mega millions or hate gay people?

Houston Food Bank is good. Especially because that money will stay in Houston, and keep helping people weeks and months after the hurricane is out of the news but people still need help

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

KomradeX posted:

Anyone got a source on this?

skip to about 6:30. it's not just a throwaway joke, it's a whole bit that goes on for like four minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np2XrGyKkAM

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Does she not have an upper arm? Like rayman?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

:lol: Peter Daou is too non-notable to have a Wikipedia page

That was in the past, now he's the founder of Verrit.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

holy :lol: Daou worked for Kerry in 2004 and Hillary in 2008 and 2016

that's like a museum of failure right there (sorry John Kerry)

Never feel sorry for John Kerry

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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Boy, it really seems like the Democrats shouldn't run candidates who voted for the Iraq War. It's almost like voting for the Iraq War is something only terrible morons who should never be allowed in public office did.

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