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Karmine posted:He wanted to see how the Bullet Club merch was selling. What I'm curious about is how (and I guess why) a Hot Topic manager is working the name Dave Meltzer into conversations with his staff.
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Half of it was Dave mansplaining and I was ready to roll my eyes at him repeating "well if this isn't true, then the guys could definitely sue, although if it is true, that's a different story, you don't have grounds for a lawsuit if it's actually true" and then I remembered the caliber of some of the people who write in/tweet at Meltzer.
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Not a podcast but in fact the most illustrious show on late night, he was good on Desus & Mero too.
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It's extremely uncomfortable to be in the torture r*ck, who wouldn't be bothered by it?
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PaybackJack posted:Still not worse than Stone Cold in my opinion, as at least this young man was convicted and served his sentence under the law.
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coconono posted:I figured EB would be glad he didn't have Pillman on the roster anymore since that dude lived his life turned to 11. Other than Louie Spicolli, to my knowledge(correct me, please), WCW never had an active roster member die.
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I knew every single beat of the Max[w]ell House VHS tape bit before listening to it and it was still incredible.
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illcendiary posted:I believe that he believes that he misspoke and said something dumb. I don’t truly believe he actually understands what part of what he said is inappropriate. I also think it’s lovely that he can’t help but drop in the whole “a lot of people don’t think I should be doing this!” thing that is basically a wink and nod to his listenership that their feelings, if they run counter to Peyton Royce’s, are still valid. He seemed genuinely upset and regretful that what he said was (understandably) interpreted as "she should lose weight" which I believe was not his intent at all, and he owned the fact that he said what he said, regardless of intent, and apologized for it. What part do you think he doesn't understand?
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rovert posted:I kinda hope it is a joke. Flop concept and Conrad doesn't need another podcast. ECW Nostalgia has truly evaporated the last 5 years or so.
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Say what you will about Shave Seltzer and Bryan Alvarez but the Bischoff/Russo/Pritchard axis of criticizing them as "these jocksniffers desperately trying to seem relevant and pretending they have connections" is especially rich coming from people whose business model is relitigating storylines from twenty years ago and hoping they can get someone who worked for them back then to come onto their podcast.
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Sep 12, 2018 13:24
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Jon Jones's latest defense was "I cannot explain why I tested positive for steroids right before a fight, but come on. I have tested positive for drugs repeatedly, how dumb would I have to be to take drugs right before a fight? I'm obviously innocent, based on my past guilt!"
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Good Listener posted:It's probably dumb of me but man I didn't like Lance's take on how you can't say WWE is bad for going through with the Saudi Arabia deal at the moment. Yes I can Lance, I can say it super easy. Or am I mixing him up with some other sort of shruggy "what are you gonna do?" response to Crown Jewel?
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Lone Goat posted:what's this ring boy thing Dave was talking about that was more gross than crown jewel? Here's a rundown with a lot of links. Unmentioned in this article is the running gag in WWF commentary about how various jobbers were referred to as "graduates of the Terry Garvin school of self-defense" by Monsoon and McMahon. Oh right, Mel Phillips was also around doing creepy poo poo simultaneously. And Pat Patterson was implicated, or at least accused of turning a blind eye to a lot of stuff, though I think Meltzer and others always defend Patterson as getting wrapped up in the rumors because he was gay more than any smoking gun that he was directly involved. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Nov 1, 2018 |
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Was there some sort of sea change in voters/subscribers circa 2010-11 or so? I know that was roughly when New Japan started making their big comeback, but regardless it's noteworthy that they've more or less shut out WWE/North American wrestling in: Best Wrestler (2011-2017) Most Outstanding Wrestler (2012-2017) Match of the Year (2012-2017) Best Major Wrestling Show (2012-2017) The obvious argument here is "well they were the best", and I generally agree, but I guess I don't know enough about Japanese wrestling to know if they were *way* better in 2012-2017 than they were (say) 2006-2011, because WWE won a ton of major awards in that five year period and I'm not convinced that the Best of the Best of that era of WWE was any better than their Best of the Best of 2012-2017.
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MassRafTer posted:Puro went through a huge decline from 2006 to NJPW's comeback. Kobashi got cancer, Misawa died, NJPW was slowly rebuilding and Dragon Gate wasn't quite popular enough.
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Jerusalem posted:Didn't WWE actually take away the "Why are you canceling?" box when that whole debacle was going on? They also haven't sent me any e-mails to renew my subscription (with free months or otherwise) in over six months now, apparently.
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Feb 12, 2019 07:34
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I always assumed it stood for Hot Scoops.
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Feb 12, 2019 23:18
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Vince "won" segments against Austin quite a bit, but it was always "Vince has a dozen cops drag Austin out of the building" or "Vince tricks Austin into getting jumped by Undertaker and Kane/the Corporation" and then after Austin has been brutalized Vince spits in his face or whatever. He also 'won' by putting roadblocks up against Austin's goals (either winning the title or killing Vince) but the key was that Vince always "won" in very clearly unfair ways and that when the odds were even he was a cartoon of a nervous chickenshit who at least once literally pissed his pants in fear. Stephanie (and to a large degree Hunter) bypass that whole "if this obstacle wasn't in the way I would be dead right now" chickenshit part, though they've honestly been better about that with Becky (and last year with Ronda) than they are in 99% of their modern era feuds. The idea of getting HEAT on babyfaces is good and works, it's just that WWE has done such a terrible job with HEAT for so long people have become allergic to the concept rather than just WWE's lovely deployment of it.
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rovert posted:There's no gimmick. Everyone is open to criticism. "What's the story?" "I'm sorry, as a journalist I cannot divulge this information." sure feels like something even if it is not a "gimmick"
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Feb 22, 2019 19:26
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I wish I had known that poster existed when I put together this bar trivia visual question earlier in the week This would make a great wrestling stable by the way. Especially if they had a Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Feb 24, 2019 |
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As someone who at best half-watches most Raws/Smackdowns and then spends the week reading people on here/elsewhere discussing them (and listening to a lot of the Dave/Bryan/etc. podcasts) is there something specific where they both really got something wrong? I know Bryan will obsessively focus on something and seemingly deliberately misinterpret it for the sake of ranting about HEAT or CANON or whatever his gimmick of the moment is, but there's a difference between harping on a continuity point from three weeks ago and wondering why they dropped it long after they dropped it and "getting things wrong" in my head.
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Yeah, I thought that Dave even corrected Bryan about the order of events but: Big Heel Tag Team Gets Title Shot Against Underdog Face Tag Team #2 Underdog Beats #1 Big Heel clean We Are Expected to Care About The Title Match In a Week is just as dumb as #2 Underdog Beats #1 Big Heel clean Big Heel Tag Team Gets Title Shot Against Underdog Face Tag Team We Are Expected to Care About The Title Match In a Week Also all of the machinations of McMahons Interfering In The Wrestlemania Card make my brain hurt, as did your description of it and how that may or may not have been accurate to how it was presented or was meant to come off and I'm really not sure what your point is still, are there some real journalistic recappers who have made Stephanie's character a coherent and reasonable thing in the past months?
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Gaz-L posted:Pfft, as if that's a choice. Can I make cupcakes with a BIKE? I didn't think so!
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Hypothetically they WERE introducing someone like Sandman to a new audience. It's also Sandman in 2006, I certainly didn't want to see him in long matches. For better or worse, the plan always seemed to be using most of the older ECW guys as stepping stones for The New Breed or whatever, so Sandman's arc of --Beat up a Zombie, Fat Stripper, a Censor, Nacho Libre, whatever to establish him as the Classic Singapore Cane and Beer Loving Bad Boy --Get beaten up by debuting evil heel Mike Knox --Team up with the other ECW Originals to fight the evil heels, generally to put the new guys over is really really low on the "Things WWE has hosed up with brand extensions" list.
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To be fair it's probably their worst album
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Suplex Liberace posted:Calling anything a gimmick. "So his whole gimmick was to sell gimmicked gimmicks at the gimmick table, but he'd taken some gimmicks backstage so he pulled out his shoot gimmick when he was supposed to have gimmicked it to be a gimmick gimmick." Also when Bryan (or anyone) talks about sports using wrestling lingo, there was some huge heat on the ref in the third quarter when the Warriors were down but the crowd popped huge when the Cavaliers put them over. Or Bryan's belief that all public speeches are 'promos'. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Apr 21, 2019 |
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Lone Goat posted:they are though
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Suplex Liberace posted:Can't believe Bryan just casualy dropped that hes a high school drop out. I feel like it's a deep vein of F4W/WON lore that was introduced out of nowhere. What's next, Vinny has a twin brother?
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Apr 24, 2019 15:53
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Lone Goat posted:Alvarez has a psycho ex-girlfriend that they only ever referred to as HER but she doesn't come up anymore since he's gotten married.
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Starrcast II Bring us the Many Loves of Davey Meltzer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGi9OZrhx94 Bonus if the opening is just five minutes of Bryan Alvarez calling everyone geeks for thinking you could trick him into thinking Gilligan is a beatnik, this doesn't make sense in canon
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Apr 25, 2019 03:17
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Weird, I would have assumed that the vector of that RT was from Natasia to Big Dave (B) to Big Dave (M) but I guess that's just a spooky vampire coincidence!
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May 17, 2019 05:26
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I didn't listen to all of Austin's podcasts but probably the most emblematic thing I can remember about its tone is that early on he had a couple of other guys in studio to bounce off of and there was some bit he was doing about going into a drug store to buy body wash or deodorant or something and the peanut gallery kept trying to turn it into a gay panic joke and Austin's whole thing is "I haven't gone shopping for myself in forever and there's like a million different options now and as a tough manly man I gotta say that lemon verbena is a delightful scent!" I can't remember if it was before or after that bit where he was talking about going with his wife to get a mani-pedi and facial and how he couldn't get over how nice his hands looked afterwards, then talked about how much gunk/whiteheads they got out of his face as "at least an eightball's wort--- I mean, it must have been three or four grams worth of gunk" Anyway for all of the macho stuff he is very much willing to make fun of himself, he's got reasonably sane positions on climate change and gun control, he was vocally in support of gay marriage on his podcast, and did a whole interview with X-Pac about how valuable therapy is and how there's no shame in crying it out sometimes and how brave Waltman was to come forward with his story about being sexually abused. Hopefully it's that version of Austin that comes through on the talk show. I also think that out of all of the wrestlers with podcasts he feels like one of the few that takes the whole "interviewing people" thing seriously, doesn't try to talk about himself, does research, tries to ask open ended (and follow up!) questions, etc. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 23:04 on May 23, 2019 |
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A lot of people when talking about wrestlers (Meltzer does it too) don't seem to differentiate between someone being untrained and someone being green, and "green" is an incredibly vague term that covers the gamut of like a football player three weeks into the power plant to like... Velveteen Dream or Heavy Machinery or Adam Page in early 2018. So if the only two options are "veteran" or "green", there's going to be a lot of weird poo poo said.
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I was fully warned by this thread that Granny talking about Paisley's sister was going to be topped by the Undertaker's aliases and I still made an rear end of myself on the subway snort-laughing.
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October 1945 - Dusty Rhodes is born August 1953 - Hulk Hogan is born 1967 - Dusty Rhodes has his first match in Boston (Hogan is 14) 1970 - Dusty starts wrestling in Florida, where Hogan might have seen him (Hogan is 17) 1974 - Dusty Rhodes turns face, which is the version of Dusty that Hogan always speaks of as a huge inspiration (Hogan is 21) 1976 - Superstar Billy Graham debuts in Florida (Hogan is 23) For some reason this is my favorite lie that Hogan constantly tells, and has been telling since the 1990s, in what I assume is a deliberate attempt to sound younger than he actually is. He's elaborated as time passes, but Hogan is only eight years younger than Dusty, and five years younger than Flair, but he always goes on about how much he liked them "growing up". As he elaborates in books and interviews about a meek little kid sneaking around the Armory in Tampa, realizing that maybe wrestling isn't real, begging his parents to let him watch CWF on TV, etc. it's actually kind of great to imagine all of this except the Hulkster is actually in his early 20s and looks like this 
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I think it can be tough to thread the needle of not having one overshadow the other but having two marquee tag matches at Full Gear like: Young Bucks vs. Ortiz & Santana Newly Crowned Champions vs. Challenger Hypothetically gives you four teams to spotlight/shine up as opposed to just two Same with something like Omega vs. Moxley, it's not like there needs to be a title (or honestly even "title match implications") at play to make it a big match. I think Dave/wrestling fans in general have sort of forgotten that a happy medium exists between Terrible VinceBrain Booking and NJPW Gedo booking, there are long stretches of successful and good wrestling shows outside of modern WWE where you can have matches/feuds that are As Big As The Title/Main Event Worthy that aren't solely for the title without careening out into "world title booked fifth from the top, John Cena vs. Evil Authority Figure in Main Event" bullshit.
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I know that this conversation was banned from the WWE thread, but am I missing something in the equation of 1) Dave Meltzer says based on his sources that there was a meeting at the Raw taping on Monday and that Seth Rollins gave a speech at said meeting. 2) Someone on Reddit posts that there was a meeting at the Raw taping on Monday and that Seth Rollins gave a speech at said meeting. Apparently Seth Rollins did not give a speech at the meeting. Dave Meltzer has retracted this story. What on this timeline suggests/proves that Dave Meltzer copy-pasted this story from Reddit? Are there timestamps? Similar wording? My dad texted me yesterday to lament that it looked like Matt Bevin was going to win the KY governor race, several news outlets said the same thing early on. Turns out he did not win the election. Should CBS News apologize for stealing this [false] scoop from my dad?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Alvarez said several people confirmed the speech happened so who loving knows
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MJeff posted:When you think you're untouchable but you're super duper not untouchable.
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STAC Goat posted:Its a weird idea because AEW wrestlers DO work indies and international shows and their roster is still in flux. Like, we don't even know if wrestlers like Mercedes Martinez, Shanna, and Kris Statlander are a regular part of it or not. Non-AEW matches since Double or Nothing Britt Baker: 2 between Double or Nothing and All Out, one match prior to Dynamite's debut, zero since Nyla Rose: 1 between DoN/AO, 1 prior to Dynamite, zero since Private Party: 2 between AO/DoN, 1 since Dynamite debuted Like a lot of things I'm willing to give them some leeway as they're figuring stuff out and maybe some combination of house shows/co-promoted shows/indie booking windows are being developed right now. They're also in a tough situation in that their only option for grooming talent right now is "sign to exclusive deal so WWE doesn't scoop them up and put them in a warehouse". It's not like they can bring in Private Party or Jungle Boy or Marko Stunt for a couple of spotlight matches and then send them out to polish themselves up, there's no way they'd ever get them back in the current environment.
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