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Reik posted:Didn't someone explain way back that acting AG can't fire Mueller, he'll need to be confirmed to take back the authority from Rosenstein? No one appears to know for sure from what I'm seeing/reading. I wonder if Mueller is canned before the end of the day. They might want to move quick on this one.
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CNN is ignorantly baffled by this development. "Why now?" "Why would Trump want this fight?" "Will 5 or 6 republican senators join the democrats to protect Mueller's investigation?" "Rudy Giuliani just told me Trump will let the Mueller investigation play out!" "Trump has always said he's innocent, why would he want to go down this road?" I can't believe none of these people have forgotten to breath on air and fallen over.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:12
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Your Taint posted:ahahaha Kelly had to call Sessions because Trump is too chickenshit. Of course.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:13
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Demon Of The Fall posted:There's no way they fire Mueller. Come on people. It's way too late for that. Word? So Kelly fired Sessions the day after the midterms because the WH was bored? Mueller is probably out by the end of the week.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:14
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Radish posted:Political pundits are hired specifically because they have no insight into politics. I know, but I need to scream. Owlofcreamcheese posted:This seems like a real actual question. Muller was hired by republicans in a bipartisan thing. Like, republicans started this probe, it's not 100% clear they are actually unified in ending it. Yes, yes they are unified in ending it. Yes. The answer is yes.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:16
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lol, what? So last county in doesn't get counted? Is this the new rule? Last county finished counting in any election doesn't count? That's... a take.
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Nov 9, 2018 08:04
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theflyingorc posted:Do you not understand that this was temporary due to a larger surge of unaccompanied minors, not deliberate cruelty You can go explain to a 3 year old they're locked in cage due to a large surge in United States prisoners and not deliberate cruelty. Much like I'm sure all those dead people at a droned wedding party will be happy to know they're in pieces because it was accidental collateral damage and not deliberate cruelty. I'll let you give all of them the good news.
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Nov 9, 2018 08:20
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Lemming posted:Who are you arguing against? Nobody here argued that what happened under Obama was good, people were debunking the lie that Obama had an intentional child separation program like Trump has instituted. My point is that intention doesn't matter to the victims, which is why I brought up the drone attacks as well. I don't care if Obama had an intentional child separation policy. I care that children were and are in cages. It makes absolutely zero difference what was in the politician's heart or what you think you saw in their soul. The results are the results. "We have to put babies in cages because, well, we're just so overwhelmed, gosh darn it!" and "We have to put babies in cages because I'm a dick!" have no real world difference in the situation, which is: babies in cages. Lightning Knight posted:"Knowing things" is demonstrably not a requirement to be President in tyool 2018 and AOC is at least as competent as about half the people that have held the office in the last 100 years and she's never been elected to anything before. But good job going immediately down the "lol the woman of color is just so dumb" route my dude. It is fun watching the cognitive dissonance of people who say we need more women and people of color and millennials to be in power and then a young woman of color goes from a bartender to the house in a year and suddenly people are like, "Well, what does she know!?" I am absolutely convinced AOC's perspective on the world is much more aligned with mine than another 60 year old who have been listening to think tanks since prep school.
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CelestialScribe posted:I don't really give a gently caress if it isn't a requirement, it should be a requirement, and the moment we stop holding ourselves to that standard is the moment we end up with a president who champions ignorance over knowledge. Sound familiar? Who is championing ignorance over knowledge? Not me, not AOC. What disqualifies her from being president in 10 to 15 years? Maybe she flames out, I dunno. So far she's been incredibly impressive and effective.
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Nov 9, 2018 09:18
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After reading the last few pages of CelestialScribe's contradictory reasons for disliking AOC I have come to the conclusion she cut him off one time at the bar.
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enraged_camel posted:If Schumer goes, how are we ever going to know what the Baileys think? The Baileys are monsters. They murdered the O'Reillys in cold blood and stole their kitchen table.
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Nov 10, 2018 10:09
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Fulchrum posted:No it loving doesn't. The primary system is still set up by the RNC the exact same way that the DNC sets up theirs. The only difference is unbound delegates vs. superdelegates, which is an utterly meaningless distinction in this context outside of your goddamn idiotic "Number bigger. MUST VOTE FOR PERSON WITH BIGGER NUMBER!" idiocy. If super delegates are so meaningless then why not get rid of them? The reason super delegates are important, aside from being the "break glass if a leftist gets in" option, is it unfairly gives credibility to the establishment pick very early on in the process. If one week into the primaries a low information voter turns on their favorite morning show and sees "Candidate A has 405 delegates" and Candidate B has 6 delegates" well, your average person is going to think it's over and tune out, and if Candidate B continues to do well the democrats and the media will more loudly and loudly claim how Candidate A is so far ahead with the super delegates that Candidate B can't possibly win and shouldn't be dragging this out because they are just dividing the party during The Most Important Election of Our Lives.
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Nov 11, 2018 22:40
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Chilichimp posted:How would you have solved the problem of kids sleeping on mats in cages? Rent out a couple of floors at a nearby Hilton instead?
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Nov 11, 2018 22:58
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Fulchrum posted:Because I don't think trying to placate this delusion and thereby validate it will actually help. There will just be yet another thing that is the worst scandal ever to give any explanation other than the leftist candidate being a fuckup. Media coverage influencing elections is a "delusion"? We can't criticize the media for breathlessly reporting every empty Trump podium before a speech for hours on end, and not also criticize the media using super delegates in their delegate count to make a primary race look like a blowout. Perception matters. Not everyone is a football fan, but the Super Bowl gets massive ratings and is watched by even non-fans. If 5 minutes into the game the score is 97 to 3 a lot of people aren't going to keep watching. Are you really arguing that less interested voters won't be less engaged in the process if they believe the outcome is already a foregone conclusion? It's an easy fix too! If super delegates don't matter, get rid of them. Nothing is lost and the stupid, dumb worthless leftists have one less thing to complain about. Win win, right?
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Nov 11, 2018 23:18
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Tucker got into a fight after someone called his daughter a oval office, and his son threw something at the person. A bar scuffle at the "Farmington Country Club bar". lol STAC Goat posted:To be honest, I actually always thought it was a hyperbolic exaggeration that USPOL couldn't stop arguing about Hillary vs Bernie. Huh. Live and learn This discussion isn't about "Hillary vs. Bernie". It's about whether super delegates in democratic primaries are a good or useful idea. 1glitch0 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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Nov 11, 2018 23:38
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King of Solomon posted:Yeah, I don't get it either. I thought even the centrists wanted her to go away forever at this point? It makes sense from their perspective. She pretty much basically won last time around. Highest name recognition. Plus 4 years of the Trump poo poo show. She tweaks her message a little more left, absorbs the disaffected left voters who won't want to risk another 4 years of Trump. She will have a ton of money. I'm sure they think if she gets off to a strong start it will avoid a 100 person democratic centrist poo poo show primary. At worst they save the Bookers for another day instead of having everyone flame out and take damage in a gigantic primary. It's her last shot so go with that and at worse the dems lose and keep their powder dry with all the other centrists, or at best she wins. 1glitch0 fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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I think age should matter and for more reasons than the person might drop dead at any moment, but I've almost never seen most voters consistently care about a candidate's age. They care if it's a talking point they can use against their preferred candidate's opponent, but they don't care if their own candidate is old as dirt. No Trump or Hillary/Biden/Sanders supporter is going to flip because of age concerns. The only time I ever saw any real concern was with McCain and that was a combination of being super old, incredibly feeble, and having a crazy idiot as a running mate.Mendrian posted:I sincerely hope we can do better than Bernie in 2020. I won't deny he started the massaging war but I'd rather a younger person fill the role. I want in on this massaging war. My neck is killing me. 1glitch0 fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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Nov 12, 2018 01:13
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Dapper_Swindler posted:same. i don't hate biden as much as some on this(not judging) but gently caress this decorum poo poo. the dude loving destroyed and crippled two countries and a million are dead, not to mention the thousands of american/nato soldiers who have either died or be physicaly or emotionally destroyed. and we didn't win poo poo in the end. iraq while recovering still has gently caress tons of corruption and ethnic/sectarian splits and Afghanistan is all but lost. hell the only reason we got to this point is because we payed the terrorists/islamists/etc off. now biden slaps this ghoul on the back because to them, its all a big stupid game. It's not just decorum. They agreed on the Iraq invasion. Biden voted for it and was all in for it.
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Mustached Demon posted:Fox news vilifies people like Pelosi and Hillary due to sexism. Full stop. That's the only reason. It's the same reason they'll do the same to AOC. Powerful women scare the gently caress out of republicans. The sexism is a tasty flavoring for them, but they'll do it to anyone. They will vilify any prominent democrat. Bill Clinton was a fat white hillbilly-talking guy from Arkansas who loved McDonalds and the right-wingers went after him with everything they had. That's what needs to be recognized and why people like Avenatti are mistaken about needing a white guy to run for president. If Trump changed his affiliation to democrat for 2020 they'd go after him with both barrels. It doesn't matter. There's no appeasing them.
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Nov 14, 2018 10:49
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Mustached Demon posted:I'm only talking about why they go after powerful Democratic women. poo poo, they go after Maxine due to both racism and sexism. Sexism and racism is obviously very strong in the republican party, I don't disagree with you. They are deep-seated beliefs, but they are also a tool they turn on and off with a flip of a switch. It wasn't that long ago when Sarah Palin was portrayed as the Republican Goddess to save them all. Where was the sexism attacks from the republicans then? While conservatives are inherently sexist and racist, it's just like troop-worship or anything else. They use it when it benefits them and ignore it when it doesn't. I think their sexist and racist attacks are more cynical than you think.
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Mustached Demon posted:I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I've been up all night as usual so I'm bad at explaining things as usual. I absolutely agree with you on that.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:please consider reading the last couple pages on the rule change Then: The democratic leadership is only talking about bipartisanship because the election is right around the corner. Now: The democratic leadership's words are essentially meaningless in this lame duck period. Soon: What did you dumb leftists expect? They campaigned on this! Later: Why are you going after red state/blue state democrats during primary season? Do you want to lose a solid blue seat/This is the best we can expect out of a red state democrat. Do you want the republicans to win!? And around and around we go.
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Nov 15, 2018 09:23
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While obviously not the most important thing in the world, one of the more constantly silliest things in 2018 is Trump and all the other republicans always taking to twitter to ask me why they aren't doing the things they want to do.
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Nov 17, 2018 07:35
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Prester Jane posted:I haven't commented about the Avenatti domestic abuse allegations because b0my default stance is to believe victims when they come forwords, but man oh man if Jacob Wohl isn't exhibiting clear tells of being a pathological liar who's wrapped up in this somehow. It's not just that he seems to have access to specific details about the situation that none of the rest of us do- but that he is already trying to spin those facts in a favorable light. In my experience that specific kind of tell indicates a pathological liar* individual who has put a ton of premeditation and thinking into this situation. Well, also, and I might be wrong because I haven't been following the saga of Stormy Daniels' lawyer and Dummy Dipshit too closely, but isn't the only reason anyone even brought up Wohl was because he came out and said he was involved?
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eke out posted:this interview is definitely proof that all those stories about trump being furious about the midterms are 100% true I can't tell if he's saying "who would know" as in who would know if MBS is lying or "who would know" if Trump just lives with it because he needs him.
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Nov 18, 2018 22:22
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Nenonen posted:It would be insanely funny if all the other world leaders were gaslighting Donald in private conversations by telling him ridiculous made up bullshit stories that he'll probably bring up in the front of reporters. The president of Finland excitedly calls up the president of France, "I told you I could make him say they had to rake the forest in public You owe me that bottle of wine!"
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Your Taint posted:Found him faster than you would have, dumbass. How much does it rain in Abbottabad?
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bort posted:She'll put together a committee which will tell her it's a bad idea, and that'll be that. Any committee she puts together will have a vested financial interest in telling her it's a great idea. And from her, and their perspective, it is a good idea. The goal isn't specific policy or a philosophy, it's becoming president. You can see her brain doing the triangulation calculations in real time. "gently caress immigrants" worked last time, so she'll embrace that next time.
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Nov 22, 2018 21:11
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Party Plane Jones posted:Anyone who quotes this post with a picture of what they're cooking/eating for thanksgiving will get a nice happy new avatar. That's helpful.
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1065791214715379718?s=19 Episode IV: AOC
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Despite everything I've seen I can't believe that tweet with that guy with an open faced sandwich of bologna and chips is real. That has to be a joke.
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jojoinnit posted:Really? That's incredibly American to me... I never saw stuff like corn chips in sandwiches until I moved there. Potato chips on a sandwich isn't "American". It might be something you only see here, but only crazy mutants do that.
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Nov 23, 2018 11:55
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rscott posted:Clinton saying that immigrants need to learn English and get in line is 100% dogwhistle language to xenophobes how do establishment Dems just ignore that poo poo? The answer is obvious.
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exploded mummy posted:same speech Remember when people were saying Hillary would never ever run again? Good times.
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Nov 24, 2018 08:02
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Katt posted:The dropping of the atomic bombs had nothing to do with preserving life. It had to do with prestige. After pearl harbour the US had to have unconditional surrender from Japan and only the atom bombs could deliver that. The alternative would have been signing a peace treaty with them. It's pretty depressing, if not surprising, that people are still trying to justify the greatest war crime in human history as the most humane choice. A country nuked civilians. Twice.
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Nov 24, 2018 10:55
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Doctor Spaceman posted:What makes it worse than the firebombing of Tokyo? Twice as many deaths? Both were horrific.
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Condiv posted:
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Zwabu posted:You should really bring this to local and national media. At least some major outlets would be interested in this story, I'd think. If the person who received this letter started a GoFundMe or something the media would cover it as a feel good story like that story they did on the kid who was selling lemonade or something to pay for his service dog.
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Kale posted:I mean she's basically the new Bernie Sanders at this point but with even greater potential for the progressive movement. She not only talks the talk, but looks the part too which IS important for a lot of potential voters. Even if they share a lot of views, he's still an old white man which is basically the look of the capitalist establishment and could make a difference in a get out the vote kind of election. It's something I have been considering, like she basically has all the pieces and more that Obama did in 2008 and lots of time to run for higher and higher offices. She would need a PAC though I think, that's the only thing she's missing that Obama had for his senate and later Presidential runs. I wouldn't put AOC and Obama anywhere in the same league. Obama was just another center right elite. People fell for his faux leftism, but he was clearly phony from go. AOC has plenty of time to disappoint but right now she looks like the real deal. The pilitician worship always annoys and creeps me out but if a large segnent of the population must latch onto a stranger like they're their BFF we could do worse.
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