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Trabisnikof posted:I assume they're going to trade an infrastructure bill for the wall, that seems to be where this is heading. If it is the private-public bill that Trump wants its a worse than worthless trade. If it is some big government spending kind of bill, I could be convinced. But building the wall seems like a faustian bargain to me. The wall is insane because it would require a bunch of Texans and south westerners to not only allow but volunteer for eminent domain by the federal government. It's a Russian nesting doll of dumb.
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STAC Goat posted:I 100% don't care if Jim Acosta asks the President, Press Secretary, and White House important questions and pushes them to answer when they don't want to because he has a dedicated love for the truth or because he wants to get attention. Its the right thing so I like that he does it. Ends, Not Process. ENP One day I will get people saying that un-ironically in public 
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I just wish I could trust that WA-08 was done. I can't trust that that tumor of a gerrymander isn't going to cause something bad to happen.
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Nov 8, 2018 04:34
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I feel like I need to start naming public wi-fi "FBI Deep State Monitor (Free Wi-fi!)"
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Nov 8, 2018 05:02
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Furnaceface posted:Todd or Fallon? How is it they're all concerned about appearances until lets them humanize Nazis?
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Nov 8, 2018 06:29
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah not a fan of combining two of the faster moving threads into one abomination. USPOL had zero posts on the day of one of the terrorist attacks a few weeks back.
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Nov 8, 2018 06:42
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Propaganda Hour posted:I didn't think I could hate schumer more. This is all awful and hopefully a joke. Who the gently caress cares about SAT scores People who live in Martha's Vineyard?
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Kimsemus posted:Not so dumb as you thinking it'll see him removed from office Impeachment is not the same thing as removal from office and your lack of delineation between this is why people think you're a moron. Clinton was impeached.
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Nov 8, 2018 16:58
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Nov 9, 2018 03:21
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If dems ever have the power to their first job in Florida is to fix elections in Florida, 2000 was 18 years ago, poo poo has gone on long enough.
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Nov 9, 2018 03:29
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QuoProQuid posted:and here i thought the republicans were already fixing elections!  You got me.
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Nov 9, 2018 03:30
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Covok posted:Broke brains screamed over a percentage on a lovely sports site being setup by an idiot who things he can predict politics because he can predict sports and we are one of the verge of potentially taking the Senate as well as the governoship of Florida and Georgia. You're doing alright these days.
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Nov 9, 2018 03:51
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I don't think we can make people not chuds but there must be a way to at least trick them into voting for their own interests in the future.
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Nov 9, 2018 04:28
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A better question is how do you make the narrative, minus the pendulum panic, of this forum, the national one?
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I'm curious how this will play out in the media, being that they seemed to go "welp, tuesday done" Trump potentially blew some of his best distraction fodder too. Data Graham posted:Ehhh. I've been working doggedly on a guy I know to NOT simply vote for his own interests all the time. Like the only thing he thinks about is: This is just quick speculation on my part but it sounds like he's concerned with means, so maybe the way to go at him is to suggest maybe he could have all those things without worry. RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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I have to say I am mildly astonished someone would assert Stephen Miller's child camps would exist under a Hillary Clinton Presidency.
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Nov 9, 2018 07:34
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Majorian posted:Someone posted this earlier in the thread, but it's a pretty comprehensive answer to this question, and everyone should watch it: Topical, as Earth-2 presidency would be even more obsessed with having the moral high ground.
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Nov 9, 2018 07:47
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This all supposes a certain ideological flexibility of the voting public, that I'm not sure exists. I'm not convinced just based on the light consideration that Republican obstructionism during Obama didn't exactly win them friends with millenials or Z.
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Smeef posted:Has there been some recent campaign to boost the message that Obama is a war criminal? I swear I've seen a 10x increase in that reference lately. All the presidents besides Lincoln are in the bad place.gif
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I'm drawing a line here: Anti science has no place in the future of the new more left Dem party. Fight me over it binch.
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Peter Daou Bundy posted:Yes, she did, but from suburban liberals who were angry that Hillary lost to TRUMP. Stein isn't The Best, but she's better than panera bread democrats. Ok. No, she's not, because grift no matter the target isn't ok. Grift leads to corruption, corruption leads to systemic failure. System failure leads to electoral college.
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enraged_camel posted:So I haven't really looked into this... is there any shred of truth to the claims that the reason California fires are as bad as they are is because environmentalist groups have been blocking efforts for controlled burns, which prevent fires from spreading? Spin the wheel o America, take a guess.
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Nov 10, 2018 23:15
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Yinlock posted:social media being quickly revealed as mercenary intelligence agencies is certainly a twist i didn't see coming, but should have I'm not sure how they've ever been anything but, which is why even on professional profiles I've tried to make them as placeholder as possible. I haven't actually posted on non forums social media in years now.
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I'm really tempted some days to make a public PAC called the illuminati just so i can see the complete mental breakdown of chuds at the end of video spots saying "The Illuminati paid for this message"
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Raenir Salazar posted:I also do not believe the claim of "Democrats are on record of defending rigging their primaries" is 100% true and not another example of taking words out of context or overly negative interpretation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcgPyKt-ysY
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Bottom Liner posted:"DEMS RIG THEIR PRIMARIES" is such a fox news headline. Of course they're going to prune their candidates and their system is set up to pick their typical candidate that falls in line with the party platform instead of rocking the boat. They didn't attack democracy by cheating Bernie, that's just how the 2 party system works and the DNC is not a government entity so they can make and break their own rules. If you're mad, go vote for the more progressives in the party and push the party left. Don't hand over the loving ball, game, and court to the literal fascists you complicit shits. You're not reading the whole thread are you?
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Bottom Liner posted:So being contrarian accelerationist and saying "but both sides bad" instead of voting does what? Remove #1 and #2 Dems since they're on the record for corruption. Continue to Vote.
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Harik posted:I'm driving down the road, a road I've driven a hundred times. I hear a song I don't like and I reach down to change the station. In that moment, I hit the car next to me and we both overreact and end up making it so much worse than a side-swipe. This is why i dont generally discuss politics with people offline because this forum is probably one of the few places that my positions would be consider briefly before the deer in headlights look kicks in. It's a long run to start from "have you considered the whole system from capitalism to the prison system is fundamentally flawed and the entire world is in fact unjust?" When the friendliest party is figureheaded by Nancy Pelosi.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/575560/quote:Nancy pelosi really does not want to impeach Donald Trump—and she’s prepared to take all the heat from her party and from the new House Democratic majority she’s hoping to lead, unless she sees something wildly different emerge. I'm not sure how to interpret this because it seems to be all over the place. RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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i am harry posted:Paying the companies that make the planes and vehicles to move the troops, and the tent makers, and the barbed wire factories. Also even at low wages, the volume of people there adds up.
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axeil posted:I remember when I was real happy circa 2009 or so that "nerds" had finally won the culture war and our stuff was mainstream. Toxic masculinity is the same, nearsighted or not.
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mcmagic posted:The thing about voting reform is that the vast majority of Republican voters have no idea how much their party relies on Voter Suppression, disenfranchisement and intimidation to win elections and these reforms sound great because they make your life easier and have no perceived downside. Thats why ballot initiatives banning gerrymandering win even in gerrymandered red states by wide margins. GOP voters think only dems cheat so because they are unable to objectively gauge the battlefield they lose.
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mcmagic posted:I guess the more politically savvy senators don't think this is a fight worth having but Schumer is so obviously terrible at his job in every possible way... If you compare the types of people in the Senate and house, there's not enough ideological difference between Schumer and his caucus to cause them to change leadership. In the house the only people making noise are centrists and the left saying their vote isn't a given. Strangely politics has very little to do with it so much as a lack of awareness.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Naturally, they don't want their press passes pulled when the left retakes the white house Kind of cynical of them to imply there might be a post Trump universe. Ogmius815 posted:No one knows anything about anything. As long as she hires a decent staff she'll be fine. One eye in land of the blind. It's not like she's in the Chicago school.
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eke out posted:well Anyone so obsessed with the Trump wall is no one I would break bread with. You have no idea what an insult that is I'm what you call a person whom eats 
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Avenatti4Pres posted:So you mean 10.5 Million people? Psst. He's not a leftist. Kimsemus posted:The wall is more an Austerlitz Chimera more than anything else honestly. I think it's as dumb as the next guy, just an interesting albatross to harp on. Bullshit. You put your money where your mouth is and the wall is offensive.
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Nov 15, 2018 16:46
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Somehow the 80's are back with Regans rayguns. I mean I knew they were with president bone-itis but now the writers are just seeing if anyone's paying attention.
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Junior G-man posted:I've always believed that the world would've been so much more fun with the Greek or Roman pantheons still around as major religions. Goat offerings, orgies, good-time stories and entrail reading - what's not to love? Goat offerings, orgies, good time stories and entrails reading. You've never been to Florida have you?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:freedom OF religion doesn't mean freedom FROM religion, that's why we're putting up a statue of Jupiter hucking a thunderbolt while schlonging a chick outside of the state courthouse In this universe Jesus is voiced by James Woods.
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