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Wark Say posted:Yeah, off the top of my head from things I've watched/played in the last 2 years: Anemone in automata too
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). So yeah, it's fair to say she's probably big already. I hope she still gets even bigger roles once she shows up in stuff like Troy Baker in The Last of Us or now that he seems to be more or less the go-to guy for Batman in video game roles.
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ChaseSP posted:Not gonna lie I could laugh at people insisting the judge is actually lazy/a secret Democrat in disguise all day and I really want for Vic to appeal the ruling, maybe come up with some really lovely evidence this time. No new evidence on appeal. He's hosed.
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Mr. Nice! posted:He can’t dismiss his case. It has already been dismissed with prejudice. There’s no option to voluntarily dismiss and refile now. In fact, under the tcpa he couldn't dismiss the suit anyway as soon as the tcpa motion was in place. even if he did, the tcpa would move forward.
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Waffleman_ posted:Vic can only get gigs in Hawaii now it seems. Like Napoleon they've sent him out to an island hoping never to see him again.
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Iswv has some serious brain problems judging from Twitter. Everything that's bad for Vic's case is either conspiracy or actually good for Vic's case.
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Agent Escalus posted:Interestingly, there's a wikipedia entry on SLAPP cases and notable examples thereof...and this one ain't listed. Presumably not going to be added while it's still going.
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Vic's been De-Brolyed. Johnny Yong Bosch for new Broly voice.
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I've read the brief. It is actually super duper rear end, what the hell. It's not hellfiling bad - buuuut it's not too far from that either.
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https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1230515992981196806?s=19 Here we go.
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Wark Say posted:Okay, I admit it! My Simpsons-fu ain't what it used to be! Vic's brief is out. It is an absolute clown car. It's also 3400 words short of limits. It also directly lies to the court. Fun stuff all around. The geniuses over at kiwifarms, of course, think it's great.
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END ME SCOOB posted:Gotta love laughs you never see coming. besides, they asked for another extension to the reply briefs, so, uh, wouldn't have gotten that anyway.
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Hub Cat posted:Is there a legal reason that there are 4 responses to 3 briefs? One for each defendant and one for the cross-appeal of the fee award
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Hub Cat posted:Serious nonsarcastic question, is it normal to break that sort of thing out into a separate reply when it's replying to a 6 page section of the Rial Toye brief? Dunford seems to be saying that this is unusual. Oh, it's absolutely not normal, but I can at least kind of see the logic in keeping different claims apart. That said they've spent about 35k words of the 27k they had, so that'll be fun.
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Can Of Worms posted:No, I think the only requirement is that you need to show that an average lawyer would have gotten a better outcome; Several lawyers including Doucette believe Vic could have gotten the lawsuit past the TCPA and avoided the sanction fees associated with it. That there were a few claims that weren't totally dead on arrival, rather. Most of them could never make it past tcpa. Monica's hotel room story could potentially have made it past the tcpa for one, but it's almost all dead on arrival with any lawyer. Also reminder for everyone - the sanctions are pretty small. More than 90% of the money vic has been told to pay is lawyer fees because the tcpa shifts attorney fees to plaintiff if he loses.
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his amicus brief was probably not that great an idea either. Somehow he found one of the few options that would both let him file his useless brief and also be an instance of unlicensed practice of law Because Amicus is Rekieta Media, a texas based company, and Rekieta is the attorney for Rekieta Media filing this amicus brief in Texas...without being a licensed lawyer in Texas. Good job, rekieta.
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Captain Stalin posted:So when does this end and how much harder can the courts smack them? The anti-SLAPP motions came down in July '19. The hearing on those motions was september '19. The order dismissing all claims was october '19. Since then we've been in appeals, because unlike an anti-slapp motion which does indeed end things pretty quick, appeals are slooooow.
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Mr. Nice! posted:There have been two attempts at an appeal in this case. They weren’t done to harass the defendants like the original complaint. They were done to try to make up for vic’s attorney completely and utterly loving up at the trial level. The first was dismissed as untimely if i remember right and the second is the appeal we’re in now. Only one appeal - It could have been dismissed, but wasn't. It was untimely at the time it was filed, but the court just held it until it was no longer untimely.
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Phobophilia posted:If Mignogna was actually closely cooperating with his attorneys then his abysmal deposition would indicate that he was a nightmare client; but we know he was not sitting in with his lawyers as they composed their legal strategy, and so his absurd behavior indicated was completely kept out of the loop. I mean, not that it would have helped, because Ron Toye's deposition was just as bad because Vic's attorney didn't know how to depose.
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Hub Cat posted:Edit: lost the train of whatever I was trying to say here. People more in the know than me are saying that the only reason they can see for it being this delayed is that there's a very strong legal argument that they don't want to grant - Vic's appeal is obviously garbage and doesn't work - but the cross appeal argument that the judge abused his discretion in giving the haircut he did? Compelling and a thing the court doesn't really want to give.
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Vic Mignogna has gotten himself a great idea. What if - he flies to Moldova and ministers to Ukrainian refugees? Maybe even records a cameo from the border, that'd be fun.
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I. M. Gei posted:Please tell me this is an actual thing that happened It sure is. Last night on stream he said that he'd be getting on a plane this morning. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781024103657111587/956349415373819954/RPReplay_Final1648079788.mov (sorry I only have it as a discord link rn, one of my friends was ripping it from his stream) Exercu fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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My good friend juri put it up on twitter https://twitter.com/jurijuri/status/1506968057545203715?t=nd2IcJlOCk444QLgPhjb-g&s=19
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Zelenskyy: "wrong kind of predator, United states"
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Skwirl posted:She accused him of horrible poo poo, but rape wasn't one of those things. Like I don't want to imply he isn't a complete piece of poo poo or anything, I just think it's bad to say he did things that none of his victims have claimed he did. You're correct. Vic was not accused of rape. As an aside for timeline stuff - Rial only shared her story after everything kicked off, and the angry swarm of sex pest fans had descended on others speaking out. He'd already been fired by funimation at that point.
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Skwirl posted:He's definitely made questionable jokes, but all of the accusations about his behaviors were made were adults. He's an absolute piece of poo poo, but you don't need to make up new crimes that no one has accused him of. There's definitely an anecdote in court filings  about children. (Oh hey, Piell found another one)
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Paracaidas posted:My understanding is that the main viable issue is the ruling remanding the Rial/Toye fees back to trial court. The appeal touches on this but spends most of its time on less... constructive... arguments. It's the only remotely live issue, yeah. And yeah, the dissent shows exactly the path you should argue. You're slightly misremembering what the dissenting judge held. The dissenting judge held that determining fees is the job of the trial judge, and that there's no reason to think this is an abuse of discretion. "He heard all that evidence, based on that evidence, he made a call. Sounds right to me."
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Julias posted:No clue, it's obviously target hate at one of the defendants, Ron Toye, but whether it’s a real incident or one of a million made up things vic stans made up, I don't know, and is hardly relevant to the actual contents of the case. It's a real incident in the sense that Ron Toye once hit his ex on the thigh, I think? with a remote in anger, and he acknowledges that was a dumb rear end in a top hat thing to do, and neither Ron or his ex care about the incident anymore, since Ron is by all accounts a changed man.
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Getting himself on the hook for $60k more only for the scotx to say "wtf is this bullshit".
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TenementFunster posted:he’a never lost a criminal or civil suit regarding sexual pestilence, he just had the defamation suit he filed dismissed via SLAPP. Aye. That said, the court of appeals basically went "you did literally say you pulled her hair and that you don't know how many other people's hair you've pulled???????"
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Happy Landfill posted:So...the side chick has completely turned against him? am I seeing that right? Side chick thought she was main chick because Vic kept referring to actual main chick as his ex. Side chick asks Vic to please clarify things on stream, because it's harming her rep and Vic goes "can't I just say you're a delusional fan?" And on stream Vic goes "oh, she's just an acquaintance." So now side chick is mad and upset and working through it and dropping fat Vic receipts everywhere.
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Nah, Toye has, through this entire thing been almost clinically unable to shut up. Ain't no way, no matter how good a lawyer Vic got, that Toye would be silenced.
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Sometimes talking too much about the case can hurt the case. Obviously there was so little case here that he's probably safe, but if there'd been any real case against him, he could've put himself in some real-rear end financial peril.
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Eh, falsity's not the only relevant thing. Even if it weren't true, there's no such thing as "sufficient" knowledge in the actual malice standard. Being a credulous moron is never defamatory when it's about a public figure. It's true though that the deposition was a complete killshot and only an imbecile would let the plaintiff in a defamation suit sit for a deposition with the TCPA looming over their heads.
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TenementFunster posted:i'm not a defamation expert by any means, but I could see an argument for actual malice where someone doesn't actually know if something/many somethings are true but tweet like they are anyway with the intent to harm someone's reputation/career. i think even ron toye would admit that he was stirring poo poo up because he rightfully had malicious feelings about vic and was trying to get him blackballed. but i'm talking less about the black letter law and more about what scumbags can get away with when an attorney threatens/pays people to shut up. No, that's probably not going to be enough. Actual Malice has nothing to do with being malicious, it has to do whether you believe what you're saying. Actual malice requires a subjective belief that either what you're publishing is false, or that you had strong subjective doubts as to their accuracy. The second part of that is St. Amant v. Thompson (The reckless disregard for truth element in defamation claims requires a plaintiff to show that the defendant had serious doubts about the accuracy of the material.) So it is *not* sufficient that Toye doesn't know that it's true, they need evidence that Toye subjectively thought it was probably false, but tweeted it out anyway. It's a high-rear end bar. Happy Landfill posted:loving incredible Oh, no, that was Michele Specht, who was his fiancée and left him because he was cheating on her (with a whole bunch of people) including with his current girlfriend, Haileigh something or other, who he then cheated on with aspiring porn actress Farah Fatherless while claiming Haileigh was his ex, and now said aspiring porn actress is on the war path. Real life really out here trying to compete with the most salacious telenovelas, I swear. Exercu fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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for about as long as I've been aware of Vic he has always had his one girlfriend, and later wife, which made this chick sitting there and acting like his one and only pretty funny to say the least. He was straight up calling his wife his ex, what an rear end in a top hat. Girl, get a divorce, you absolutely don't need to put up with that poo poo
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TenementFunster posted:yeah, actual malice for public figure defamation is a high bar, but toye might have met it! dude was really going hog wild! i'm not saying i would have preferred vic's odds over toye's, but there's a sufficient basis for vic at least bringing that claim based on an allegation that toye was making some of that poo poo up with the intent of harming vic's career. like you said, proving it would have been hard, but that could have been a matter for a jury (or leverage in a settlement negotiation). instead, vic's lawyers hosed it up so profoundly and instead made their client defamation-proof. You think there's any chance of producing clear and convincing evidence that Toye does not actually believe what he's saying without getting discovery? Not that some reasonable person would not have believed it, but that Ron Toye, personally, did not believe it? Because if you can't get clear and convincing evidence that Ron Toye, not some hypothetical reasonable person, did not believe that, without getting discovery, you're dead at the TCPA before a jury gets involved - you need at least enough that if there were no conflicting evidence, a judge would be able to rule for you at summary judgment, basically.
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Not really, no. The consensus of lawtwitter was that one of the claims against Rial (The hotel story) could potentially survive the TCPA if Vic had actually denied that the event happened, and not just gone "i don't remember???" but Ron's dubiously sourced stuff from PULL? Nah. (Also, iirc, it was actually Toye's homeowner's insurance that was on the hook for it anyway, so there's no way to use the lawsuit to really pressure Ron personally)
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TenementFunster posted:am i representing Vic Mignogna? if so, absolutely, your honor
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah, Vic's course is the stereotypical 'white man who comes from money.' It's probably not enough to help him fully pretend he's Captain Kirk* so he needs to do other things. Oh, Shatner really does not like Vic. Vic told a bit of a tall tale, and Shatner did not like it one bit. https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/937761172094197760?s=20&t=HYVpIt1HxqVvcmqiOPyr7A And yeah, Todd Haberkorn has his own credible allegations against him, (I know one of the women in question, even), but Todd was savvy enough to not light his entire career on fire with the propane that is a defamation lawsuit.
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nine-gear crow posted:I imagine the process was Shatner's daughter told him that there was some weirdo making up stories about him on the twitters, and Shat said something like "call him a lying rear end in a top hat or something." And then went back to doing whatever it is a 90 year old retired multimillionaire does with his waning days on this earth. He probably doesn't even know who the gently caress Vic is. Nah, shatner literally tagged the VP of Star trek development in too. He's very consistent about the whole thing. His final word on the situation was this. https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1044734344160468992
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Arist posted:Pretty much any of the dub work Vic would have been getting before all this is done by non-union talent though Broly movie was union, I'm pretty sure. Other than that, all non-union, yeah.
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