UKMT Red October 2019: Lies, dem libs, and polling companies.

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CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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VideoGames posted:

It is time to reveal the backup plan.

If all goes terribly this month, then I am all set to inhale the tory front bench and absorb their 'power' to allow the extension and GE to go ahead. I am primed and ready and have trained for this by eating nothing but gammon this last seven months.

noooo

# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 09:20

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 18:08

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
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Guavanaut posted:

Also Lou should release Mambos № 1 thru 4, where are the files!?

Technically written by Cuban bandleader D�maso P�rez Prado, much like the original Mambo No. 5! (before Lou Bega nicked its riffs for a poo poo song)

couldn't find recordings of 1,3,4, but still...

Mambo No. 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JNq9FCfXNA

Original Mambo No. 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKuvJ7zG9LI

Mambo No. 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Qnsk56_g4

# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 10:00

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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VideoGames posted:

https://twitter.com/Mike_Fabricant/status/1179001353777102851

brave Michael Fabricant, trying to wrestle the plans for the Irish border solution out of the dog's mouth before it swallows them. Oh no! Too late!

# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 14:10

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election time is but a window.

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bump_fn posted:

why don�t you want to make britain great again

did you see what happened last time?

# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 14:45

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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WhatEvil posted:

One-ha-ha-ha!
Two-ha-ha-ha!...

One-ha-ha-ha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVz8rvIl_vY

One-ha-ha-ha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv_I1Z33AQQ

...
uh..Seven-ha-ha-ha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuvaos1WHTk

# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 15:52

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Azza Bamboo posted:

My finished pieces always lose a bit of the character of the lazy doodles

Get this out there and doing the meme circuits

# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 17:55

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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OwlFancier posted:

A shame they don't have the catapults to accelerate the keel hauling process.

This sent me on little journey to Wikipedia, apparently the naval cat o' nine tails had a smaller version used on younger sailors, called the "boy's pussy"

# ¿ Oct 3, 2019 09:59

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Bardeh posted:

Look at this pic of Rory Stewart in the newspaper today

wtf

secret photographs found of that mythical beast, Rory the Eton

# ¿ Oct 6, 2019 00:25

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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For anyone interested in the intersection of tech / systems design, economics, and socialism, I haven't seen this posted - an NLR article from Evgeny Morozov about a potential socialist response to problems of information discovery and social coordination. For a change, he actually makes suggestions for directions to go, rather than just taking a constantly grumpy poo poo on the target (here, a book called Reinventing Capitalism, or Das Digital in the German edition, lol)

https://newleftreview.org/issues/II116/articles/evgeny-morozov-digital-socialism

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 08:37

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Gatts posted:

EDIT: what�s the benefit to the regular people of Britain to leave the EU? What was the goal and will it happen?

Depends who you mean by "regular people". Assuming we're talking about who's in favour of Brexit, there are a bunch of reactionaries with contradictory viewpoints in roughly the following categories

return to a bucolic, delightful Little England full of villages where the postman says hello and there aren't so many foreigners and everything was so much simpler in the old days blah blah blah. This won't happen, poo poo's global for the time being, hope you get used to it by the time we all drown or burn
realignment towards USA as opposed to the EU - a vision of a world in which Britain and America are top dogs and everyone else is lesser. This also won't happen, USA's too powerful to be anything other than a lapdog of it, and there's competition from EU, China, etc
Britain must go back to its glorious trading past when we were the kings of the land and queens of the sea! These people have missed that Britain's past is built largely on top of exploiting colonies through threat, there isn't really anywhere we could do that to these days and we don't have much of a navy, so again, won't happen. I know one of these people - he thinks that since Britain could compete with Napoleon in the past we shouldn't have any trouble now (???? he's a Tory party member and a landlord, which seems about right)
too many foreigners taking our housing and jobs. Good news - fewer foreigners from the EU! Bad news - the foreigners were doing useful work that no-one else wanted to do and were boosting the economy, also trade fuckery kills demand for British products so now there aren't jobs at all. Further bad news - likelihood of more immigration from commonwealth countries instead of the EU. Good work.
we've shorted the pound - winners here
we want Brexit to break the last remnants of Britain's social welfare state and go full Shock Doctrine disaster capitalism in the aftermath - winners here too
my small business wants to avoid EU regulations - winners, maybe, if there's still demand for their product once the economy goes recessionwards

Lastly, some were angry that the establishment was ignoring their problems, so Brexit was a protest vote - mission accomplished, I guess? They've got attention now, of a sort.

ed: the point here is that there isn't a "regular person" when it comes to Brexit voters, there was no actual goal - it was never clearly defined enough to be anything other than a magic wonderland where all your dreams come true

CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Oct 7, 2019

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 15:01

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Guavanaut posted:

There's also

the EU is massively pro-liberalization (which is true ignores that our own governments sold all our stuff)

the EU is pretty racist as an institution (which is true but lol if post-Brexit Tories are any better)

Britain has ignored the Commonwealth to bring in white migrants instead (again lol if post-Brexit Tories are any better)

the EU is becoming an empire and the last thing that we need is another one of those (also true but Tory brexit will make us a colony of somewhere instead)

Lexit was clearly never an option in a public slapfight between Cameron/Osborne and Johnson/Gove, but it only needed to sway <1% of people who voted and convince others to stay at home because it was a public Tory game of shite.

Ah yeah, forgot about the anti-EU left and Lexit people, good catch! Don't know how big a percentage they were, I don't really remember them being present at all in The Discourse, except maybe one of the unions and Morning Star

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 15:14

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Guavanaut posted:

# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 23:13

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Endjinneer posted:

So I actually waded through some of Dominic Cummings' blogs and the writing style of that spectator article is eerily similar. There's the chatty conversational tone. Pseudowonkish technobabble- "Given his assumptions, Varadkar�s behaviour is arguably rational but his assumptions are, I think, false... they don�t understand the electoral dynamics". There are also these two beauties:
"Our legal advice is clear...Different lawyers see the �frustration principle� very differently"- Clear as mud then?
"countries which oppose delay will go the front of the queue...on things both within and outside EU competences"- So countries within the EU, for whom the EU negotiates collectively, some are going to the front of the queue and some to the back then?

It absolutely has the stench of Cummies all over it.

# ¿ Oct 8, 2019 00:02

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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AceOfFlames posted:

This conversation about XR has given me a panic attack about my role in aviation (aviation software specifically but the way we do things is so backwards and full of bad practice that moving towards traditional software is an uphill battle plus I am over 30). What are my options to not end up homeless?

Maybe see if there are any jobs available in the green / environment sector for software developers? Would be a pay cut, but you've got a buffer of cash there.

Or maybe a career transition? If there are local-ish environmental groups you could try asking them what they need, reading up on some of the topics, you might be able to get a job with on-the-job training - again, the cash buffer is a help there. Like, say, in regenerative agriculture or whatever (tbh with the amount of spare cash you have, you might be able to start a small regenerative agriculture farm - some involved say the returns are actually really good, and it's environmentally-positive).

idk, I'm probably going to be doing a mid-30s career transition myself in the next 6 months from music to computer touching, and these things are on my mind a bit too

# ¿ Oct 8, 2019 09:25

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Barry Foster posted:

Lol at giving AoF sincere advice on changing his life for the better

got to try :shobon:

tritsch posted:

Hey, when you say music what is it you're doing exactly? I'm interested because I'd love to do the exact opposite career swap in the future and wondering what would be a realistic option... (thinking in some support roll/tech)

I'm performance / teaching, not a thing that's easy to swap to without good instrumental skills, and can be difficult to live on (also, you get hosed if your body starts going wrong). In terms of tech, haven't really looked into it, but a few thoughts occur. Depends on what kind of thing you're looking for; if it's not work for a single company it'll have to be a portfolio of stuff.

Sound engineer is one possibility, but that requires quite a bit of training and I don't know how much work there is - requires either increasing number of recording studios or sound-engineered gigs. Computer-aided performance is another - again, depends on live gigs, but there might be some backstage tech roles to do with stringing everything together and coordinating. You could get involved in development or use of accessible music - music creation methods for people with varying disabilities, for children without much musical education, etc. Involvement in music therapy is also a possibility - I'm guessing electronic sound production might be easier for some to manage. Along the same lines, creation of new tech-enabled instruments, not necessarily accessibility-related. I guess also peripatetic classes for music tech in schools - showing kids how to create music via tech. Finally, always the option of joining any startup / tech company creating music software, taking a different route into it.

No doubt lots of other stuff, but I've not really been involved in the tech side, sorry!

Guavanaut posted:

wood

# ¿ Oct 8, 2019 11:06

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Trickjaw posted:

That's a new one. One of the XR protestors has strapped herself to a sackbarrow 'to make it as hard as possible to move me'. Something tells me she hasn't thought this through.

ah, an individualized version of the riot truck from Soylent Green, ideal for the neoliberal subject

# ¿ Oct 8, 2019 11:29

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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OwlFancier posted:

Obviously if I was actually a wizard I would be able to solve the nettle problem without resorting to the crab scuttle.

magically making the nettles invisible won't stop them stinging you

# ¿ Oct 8, 2019 17:26

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Josef bugman posted:

These last few days have been very tricky, not gonna lie. What does everyone else do when they feel themselves slipping back into bad ways of coping?

ymmv, but if the ways of coping are related to an activity or a place: for activities, trying to make the activity difficult to access in some way. Trick here is trying to set up ways of fixing the bad coping in advance when I don't need it, so they're ready for me when I do. For places, trying to realise when the bad coping is starting and removing myself from that place - taking some time away, go out into nature, find a bench somewhere and read, maybe just move to a different room. If you've got people you trust around, there's always the option of asking them to help - maybe notice when you're doing a thing, and try and direct you away from it with something prearranged.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 00:10

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Jose posted:

gently caress off tom watson you massive oval office

https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1181642678708195329?s=20

you wouldn't download a VAR

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 00:30

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Guavanaut posted:

Food, medicines, and a source of heat are stockpiling. Anything else is stockpile LARPing or hoarding. Wall for both.

tbf perfume could be a source of heat. Mad Max but the raider gangs are searching for the nicest-smelling houses, and Lord Humungus wears cologne as a sign of power

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 10:18

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Hentai Jihadist posted:

It is equally possible that "leavers only care about brexit in a GE" is also an optimistic assumption from the tories. Or that leavers are impressed with the tories performance on brexit. Or that the base of rabid brexiteers is as large as bojo assumes it is.

there was a thing posted about how Labour Leave voters by and large don't rate Brexit as a high priority - services etc. are more important to them, trying to find it

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 11:34

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Didn't see anyone posting the response to Football Wife Drama
https://twitter.com/RebekahVardy/status/1181871914081509376
I'm no expert but something seems a little fishy about this

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 20:45

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Niric posted:

This might be of interest to some people here: Momentum are launching a volunteer research project to "collate vital information about opposition candidates - and much more" for the (presumably) upcoming election. If you can spare ~3 hrs a week and want to help get a Labour government, sign up here:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfPBceytBGB9aZWyDMIDJivokm40sa7PuOoufmcPoEp-U383A/viewform

Cheers for posting this, might sign up while I'm waiting for my Labour membership to get processed

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 21:11

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Guavanaut posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfelqZpapZA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHftejWSvU

# ¿ Oct 10, 2019 10:14

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Niric posted:

This might be of interest to some people here: Momentum are launching a volunteer research project to "collate vital information about opposition candidates - and much more" for the (presumably) upcoming election. If you can spare ~3 hrs a week and want to help get a Labour government, sign up here:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfPBceytBGB9aZWyDMIDJivokm40sa7PuOoufmcPoEp-U383A/viewform

Signed up just now, eagerly awaiting the super serum

# ¿ Oct 10, 2019 14:19

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Calico Heart posted:

!!!THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!

I will be within spitting distance of the Queen tomorrow as she is visiting the council housing my parents live at and I'm visiting. It seems a waste to be within spitting distance of the queen and not spit on the queen, but it also might upset a bunch of old nurses and firefighters

tell her you loved her in the olympics

# ¿ Oct 10, 2019 14:36

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

what's the discord invite? the OP invite is out of date

also, Boris Johnson has a half-brother: Max Johnson. A truly powerful name

# ¿ Oct 11, 2019 17:57

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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God I hate being rinsed by Bercow to the tune of... uh... about 1/400 of a penny. I'm furious.

Rinsed By Bercow, good title for another washing machine video

# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 09:42

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Bubbling Frothy Johnson Rinsed By Bercow

# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 10:45

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Cerv posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/12/crunch-time-for-corbyn-labour-enforcer-sidelined-as-nerves-jangle

I�m liking the last line of this for next month�s thread title

poo poo or bust, the eternal question

# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 18:46

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Couple of bits from a Phillips interview in this article from 2017

quote:

I�m suddenly not convinced any more that her backbench credentials are so strong. She thinks the identity aspect of Labour is important and is an ardent Remainer. But isn�t her job to represent the views of her constituents, who she admits don�t think those things?

�I�m not here to satiate people�s needs � I�m here to do what I think is best for them, with them and bring them round to a way of thinking,� she counters.

I�m worried that her view of her role hints slightly at an implied false consciousness of her constituents. She disagrees.

�If I followed what everyone in my constituency thought � bearing in mind they don�t all think the same thing � and acted like a delegate, it would be an incredibly boring place to work, and they don�t want that.�

quote:

�When I don�t write it, it gets said wrong�, she explains, when I ask about her acclaimed new book, Everywoman. �I wouldn�t ever say that I felt I had to write a book � that�s far too pompous a statement. That�s a really arrogant thing to say, but I felt like I had a lot to say and it wasn�t difficult to write it.�

quote:

The moment is now, for Jess Phillips, it seems. When, then, is she running for the leadership? It�s a question she shrugs off at first.

�It�ll probably never happen. I feel like, when I�m asked that question, I have a duty to the kind of people who I want to read my book [Penguin, �14.99], to say �yes, of course I could become leader of the Labour Party� and that I should want to do it. It�s like an obligation to do it. Why the hell shouldn�t someone like me become the leader of the Labour Party?�

Stranger things have happened, of course, as she quickly picks up. �If Donald Trump can become President of the United States, I can become leader of the Labour Party.�

Well, does she want it? �Who wouldn�t? Who wouldn�t want to have all that power to do all the things you thought were right?�

# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 20:20

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Firos posted:

THE TWEETMAN HAS DELETED HER TWITTER ACCOUNT

F for Frances, rest in peace

# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 22:17

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in Spiked as an example of the left turning against its own because of political correctness gone mad, impossibility of worker consciousness in these conditions, etc.

# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 22:30

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/AllisterHeath/status/1183124231699288064?s=19

For gently caress's sake, heading for USA politics in accelerated time. Looking forward to the other (poor) voter suppression schemes too.

# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 22:40

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Jose posted:

Check the article because it contains a bunch more before you hit the paywalled section

I read the comments, this was a mistake

quote:

Colin Sewell 12 Oct 2019 10:38PM
Could this requirement be coupled with an IQ level?

quote:

Caroline Wood 12 Oct 2019 10:14PM
Sorting out corruption is not politically correct in this country.

JP Edwards 12 Oct 2019 10:22PM
@Caroline Wood
Unless of course your old, white and male and being accused of historic paedophilia crimes. In which case the State will spare no expense, no stone will remain unturned, no character remain untarnished and any lie will be made credible.

Pochoclo posted:

Pretty sure that before you do this you have to implement a mandatory national ID system like, uh I don't know, most of the loving world?

Like who the gently caress thought it would be a good idea to require ID when voting, in a country where there's no guarantee people will have any kind of ID?

That's the point - it's the poorer people who won't have access

# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 22:48

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Steve2911 posted:

Who the gently caress actually even is she? She seemed to just appear on my timeline one day a couple of years ago. Is she actually anyone of note or just a random with opinions?

iirc a former Labour councillor who left the party in protest against anti-semitism, purely coincidentally just before she got fired for not showing up to anything
e: fb ^^

Azza Bamboo posted:

beautiful

# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 23:32

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Miftan posted:

I can't even put into words how angry I am at this post.

She's not wrong :v:

# ¿ Oct 13, 2019 11:07

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Good moooorning

quote:

It was a gathering to mark Extinction Rebellion�s week of disruption. The group is asking people... to �take two weeks off work� and join the revolt against the �climate and ecological crisis�. You can tell who they�re trying to appeal to. Working-class people and the poor of New Delhi, Mumbai and Cape Town � some of the cities in which Extinction Rebellion will be causing disruption � of course cannot afford to take two weeks off work. But then, these protests aren�t for those people. In fact, they�re against those people...

people of a leftist persuasion... will cheer this eco-death cult when it demands a virtual halt to economic growth with not a single thought for the devastating, immiserating and outright lethal impact such a course of action would have on the working and struggling peoples of the world.

quote:

Think about it: they want us to halt a vast array of human activity that produces carbon. All that Australian digging for coal; all those Chinese factories employing millions of people and producing billions of things used by people around the world; all those jobs in the UK in the fossil-fuel industries; all those coal-fired power stations; all that flying; all that driving� cut it all back, rein it in, stop it. And the people who rely on these things for their work and their food and their warmth? Screw them. They�re only humans. Horrible, destructive, stupid humans.

quote:

They complained, hysterically, about modernity. One of them bemoaned all the electricity that is used in a city like London. So the very lighting up and warming of cities, the electricity that powers homes and workplaces and transport systems and life-support machines, is offensive to these hair-shirted, self-flagellating loathers of arrogant humankind. �Switch it all off�, is their alarmingly immoral cry.

# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 10:06

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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Guavanaut posted:

New podcast game of Spiked or Spectator off to a good start.

Neill, Young O': An Study of the British Right

# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 13:26

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 18:08

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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love some plain-speaking towns, villages, and hamlets, me

# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 14:41

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