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Big Mean Jerk posted:Discovery is fine if you don’t go in determined to hate it, hth. Do you really want to start your thread with this toxic garbage. You've immediately dismissed all issues with the show as some sort of personal failing of the person watching it. Also standards have increased since Star Trek started airing as had the amount of competition it's facing.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2020 23:59 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 12:43 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:Technology growth was making future stories harder. By the end of Voyager the Federation knows a lot about wormholes, warp 10, borg transwarp conduits and whatnot. Lots of stuff the crew of Voyager couldn't make work would reasonably be perfected once it was in the hands of Federation scientists. At the beginning of TNG they have the ability to make anything and teleport anywhere. Technology always worked to whatever was needed for the episode of the week that it somehow got too advanced is a silly notion.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2020 02:35 |
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Captain Alexander Rozhenko.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2020 06:07 |
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HD DAD posted:This. Star Trek, first and foremost, is constructed of morality plays based on allegories for current events. And these allegories are sometimes hilariously unsubtle. It just has a “hot science of the week” icing on top. If anything when it tries to be "about science" it comes off as offensive and just dumb. "Hey I built this machine that harvests power from every black hole in the universe at the same time on this desk in 5 minutes" "gently caress yeah science!"
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2020 15:44 |
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Zotix posted:This has probably been asked already, but Dahjs mom knew she went to Picard. Was that the assassin's impersonating her mother? Was is Dahjs memory faltering? Probably not even real or a AI.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2020 17:34 |
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Delthalaz posted:Picard appears as a CGI nexus ghost to give Soji advice for the best few seasons to ease the transition though Only if they use Bullock soundbites from American Dad.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2020 07:09 |
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Lizard Combatant posted:I'm assuming he was joking and referring to the point where the shelves meet not being 100% perfectly aligned, not the barrel distortion of the lens. Just pretend it's a neat background to show how something is slightly off with her whole existence.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2020 19:23 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Whole lotta people real angry over some crooked teeth Well one person.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2020 02:32 |
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Uncle Lloyd posted:The Federation has never been a post-currency society. Post-scarcity, sure, but there have been repeated, if not ubiquitous, references to using money even within the system, as it were, without getting into off-books pilots operating on the edge of legality. In Wrath of Khan the Federation explicitly funded Genesis, for instance. They very clearly say several times they don't use money. They even lampshade this is DS9 when Nog asks Jake why they don't and he doesn't have an answer.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2020 02:53 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:You are actually incoherent. Do you ever watch the show or did you see this as a good place to troll nerds cause that seems to be your main and only goal.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2020 23:40 |
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Leave it to Trekkies to rant and debate about sunglasses for ten pages without discussing the actual plot of the show. Leave it to Trekkies to not actually read the last 10 pages for a pointless lovely potshot at other Trekkies.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2020 18:09 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:That's not an issue with Trekkies so much as it is a cultural problem with TVIV going back fifteen years or more. People fixate on minutiae and then runn jokes about it into the ground to cover for their inability to actually watch and understand a television programme. See also dliberately misconstruing events depicted on screen to allow for criticism fitting an agenda. So a few people joking about sunglasses means they are morons?
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2020 22:52 |
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TheCenturion posted:TLDR: Raffi is bitter because she had her chosen career derailed through no fault of her own, feels betrayed by the guy she views as responsible, and appears to have untreated paranoia and depression or something, which is exacerbated by drug use. She literally talks about how lovely her place is after talking about how fancy Picard's is. They very clearly convey she is poor.
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2020 13:14 |
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marktheando posted:If it sounds like siri or alexa or whatever that totally isn't good enough to use for tv. I could see them using a more computery sounding voice as part of the anti-synth movement so people don't confuse the computer with a real person or start thinking it has rights.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2020 17:57 |
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Nullsmack posted:If Picard dies, they're just going to have to call it "Star Trek:" Star Trek: Seven a confusing name but probably a better show.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2020 21:56 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:That's exactly my issue. I'd like to talk about the programmes I enjoy watching without pointlessly aggressive gate keeping by shitwits who are offended that people might like it, and subsequently try to drown any discourse in meaningless catchphrases and criticisms unsupported by the episodes. 95% of your posts in this thread are personal attacks against the posters within in, the moment anyone points this out you start bitching about "gatekeeping" Nobody here cares if someone else likes the show.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2020 01:15 |
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I think Fuller gets way too much blame for Discovery. The line that always sticks out to me as just dumb from the series is the episode where they come back from the mirror universe and they are like "oh no the entire federation has been destroyed" and the next episode its like lost 25% of its territory, the obvious bullshit for drama and immediate rollback just felt cheap. Like nothing in Discovery can just be minor it all has to be galaxy ending or the best thing ever, like that device they threw together in 5 minutes that harnessed what was it every black hole in the galaxy?
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2020 04:38 |
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marktheando posted:I'd watch Orville if Seth McFarlane hadn't cast himself as the lead. He really rubs me the wrong way. I was worried about this as well but really he's feels far less of a lead then a Star Trek captain. Also they made him kind of a lame creep and don't shy too much from pointing that out.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2020 18:34 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I think a lot of people who consider themselves fans of Trek are managing to ignore that the Federation, and most of their neighbouring powers, were brought to their knees by the Dominion war. Except the Romulans very much did help turn the tide of the war?
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2020 02:26 |
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MikeJF posted:The medical stuff was in the form of an AI, which she's pretty experienced with. I fully expect a scene where all the AI help her take over the ship.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2020 18:03 |
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galenanorth posted:DIS S02E01 is like a whole different show. It's so much better without Ash Tyler, the Klingons, and every episode's plot being "are they going to do bad things because it's easy". The Burnham family storyline is all right if they weren't namedropping established characters, which as the saying goes, makes the fictional universe feel smaller. The episode had Apollo 13 vibes and Commander Reno's a treasure. You uh aren't going to like this season then.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2020 05:15 |
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Delthalaz posted:You know come to think about it, these hybrid children with parents from entirely different species that evolved on planets lightyears apart may be some of the most implausible conceits in star trek Sometimes they talk about the tech and science required to do that and how hard it is to pull off, then sometimes it happens accidently like with Dukat and his cultist. In short Star Trek is a land of contrasts and every single episode is in a slightly different mirror universe thank you.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2020 07:09 |
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Zaroff posted:It's a shame Voyager has been made already, since I think that were they to make a series like it now, making an active effort to follow through with the potential narratives (the Starfleet/Maquis conflict, dwindling supplies and a ship falling apart), you would get something which has the potential to be so much better than that which we got. I dunno groups of assholes trying to survive on spaceship has done plenty of times since then.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2020 00:02 |
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Powered Descent posted:Where did the 10 days thing come from? Everyone is exactly where they were. Narissa (after her appearance in the Ascent to Transcendence flashback) is still on the cube, Picard and Soji have just stepped off the transporter from being beamed up from Deanna and Will's front yard at the end of last week's show, and Elnor is even still doing the exact same fight scene. (I guess Seven got there implausibly quickly, again.) You can't tell human from cylon with any medical test, also their spines glow.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2020 16:40 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Yeah, the original depiction of S31 is absolutely that hard choices by hard men enacted unilaterally are required for the good of the people. It's fash poo poo that has no place in Trek. That's not true at all. They are literally the villain and shown to be wrong.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 05:22 |
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Lizard Combatant posted:The point is that if Sloan is telling the truth (which I'll concede there was room to suggest that he wasn't before later entries went all in) then the implication is that the Federation hasn't survived this long without their mechinations. It robs the Federation of its accomplishments if there's always been a secret organisation pre-chewing the tougher meat for them. What does he say Section 31 actually accomplished in their first episode?
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 05:28 |
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Saw the episode with the Dyson Sphere the other day. Could of had the Romulans move into that after their star exploded and found out the advanced civilization there was wiped out by their own synthetic lifeforms and originated the plot from there.
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2020 22:02 |
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Gonz posted:Disco season 3 taking place 900 years in the goddamn future where they aren't bound by canon is the best decision for that show. Do you think the Show Bible is what made the writing bad?
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2020 23:25 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:No! Shut up! Trek must adhere to a rigid formula or it is objectively worse than the holocaust. Nobody really think this and your obsession with bringing it up constantly is sadder then the strawman you keep imagining.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2020 02:45 |
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Alchenar posted:There's a few stories/writers that go into the knowledge that immortality doesn't mean you won't die, it just means that your death will inevitably be violent in some way. You are denied the 'deathbed surrounded by family' experience and you have to live life knowing it. Do most people really get that experience though?
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# ¿ May 27, 2020 20:57 |
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Martytoof posted:You know, for as advanced a ship as Voyager is supposed to be, every other episode has someone overriding the transporter controls. *Enemy ship fires a single shot* our transporters have been knocked out! Every single late season Voyager episode.
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# ¿ May 31, 2020 10:49 |
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Peachfart posted:Also, that they don't bother to develop any characters except Michael. Who is still pretty badly developed. Stares at you quietly crying
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2020 01:10 |
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The Bloop posted:I wish Disco wasn't apparently doing the Save The Whole Federation thing again but I'm none the less hopeful for some reason Yeah the whole "everyone forgot what the federation is we need to remind them" from the war crimes crew does not leave me optimistic for this season.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2020 00:16 |
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HD DAD posted:I want the final episode of Disco season 3 to just be Riker and Troi inexplicably watching the founding of the Nu-Federation on the holodeck. Maybe the entire thing would of been immersive holodeck therapy for Burnham's "I'm the most important person in the universe" complex
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2020 04:06 |
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I at least have a way better idea of who these characters are then after a like entire season of Discovery.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2020 12:16 |
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Cynic Jester posted:Overall BitTorrent usage and tracker statistics supports it, along with the decline of almost every other file sharing method. Most people use usenet then share it to their friends with Plex, its all automated and easier then ever.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2020 15:52 |
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Yeah Jeri Ryan and Patrick Stuart together could 100% work just the way they did it felt disjointed.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2020 16:36 |
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Pastamania posted:Thing is, it being an explicitly Trek show I think also drags it down a little bit. Trek aside, it's a watered down Rick and Morty - which is not a criticism, R&M often takes things way too far and ends up being a self indulgent mess, while Lower Decks has managed to keep the tone just about right. But the constant cramming in of Trek references and the fact that the characters make no sense in that universe keeps drawing attention to itself and is distracting in an otherwise dumb but fun little show. I wish the universe was some bootleg trek knockoff instead so they could focus on the actual stories more. Which characters make no sense in the universe? Also I 100% believe people would refer to the Ent-D crew nonstop I mean they are basically the rockstars of the Federation.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2020 02:49 |
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Super Deuce posted:Isn’t it funny that we as fans think it’s funny that Worf gets denied often. It sure would be great if the universe acknowledged us as TV viewers. Why are very few meant to know of Q? It's a godlike being known to gently caress with Federation ships including the flagship multiple times. It would be insane if every single Starfleet person did not know of Q.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2020 06:26 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 12:43 |
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Super Deuce posted:Because it’s what the universe has established. Where/When was this ever mentioned?
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2020 06:36 |