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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1253308893712842754

Find Your Local COVID-19 Mutual Aid Group - or set one up
Also check:
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https://secretldn.com/uk-community-aid-groups-by-area/
https://queercare.network/our-work/resources/covid-19/

Free Academic Books For All Your Lockdown Needs Here

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Load of free non-fiction books from Springer: everything from computer touching / physics / maths / business / theatre / social justice etc etc.

https://link.springer.com/search/pa...st&showAll=true

April saw the whole country in lockdown, with more than nine million workers expected to be furloughed under the job retention scheme, Debenhams goes into administration again, Oasis and Warehouse close, Boris Johnson goes into and out of intensive care, then into and out of his house in the country.
The UK death toll from the virus becomes the second highest in Europe at 26,097. Michael Gove concedes that Boris Johnson missed five COBRA meetings in the early stages of the viral outbreak, and that the UK shipped protective equipment to China in February.

Current UK COVID-19 Plan: A 100 year old war veteran walks laps of his yard to fund the NHS.

National Living Wage went up 6.2% if you're still in work though.

Easter Status: Cancelled
VE Day Status: Singing Vera Lynn from the doorstep to pot and pan percussion
Whitsun Status: Cancelled due to possibility of very large coronaviruses disguising themselves as a god



Lingg was one of eight anarchists tried for murder in the aftermath of the Haymarket Square bombing in Chicago in 1886. The bombing took place during a rally for the eight-hour day on May 1, and came to be known thereafter as May Day, the International Workers’ Day.
Despite an almost complete lack of evidence, Lingg and four others were convicted and sentenced to death.
On the eve of his execution, he took a small bomb that had been smuggled into his jail cell, and killed himself by igniting it in his mouth.

In Other News :sax:
• Sir Keir Starmer, MP for Windsoacke-over-Trigpoint, is elected as the leader of the Labour Party.
• MPs take part in the first virtual Prime Minister's Questions, via videoconferencing service Zoom.
• John Horton Conway exits the Game of Life due to a fast replicator.
• Liz Truss comes out with a bunch of medically illiterate TERF bullshit.
• Downing Street concedes Covid-19 testing targets will be missed.
• Other news still cancelled due to Coronavirus.


May, more than any other month of the year, wants us to feel most alive.


Boris Johnson leaves hospital and becomes a father again.

Occupational Safety and Health Professional Day
UKMT April 2020 - The Betacoronavirus and the Virgin Atlantic
All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter)

World Whisky Day
Europol Thread
Scotpol Thread
Trainchat Thread
Political Cartoons Thread
C-SPAM: BREXIT
BYOB: UKMT

Culture Freedom Day
Podcasting is Praxis - The official podcast of the UKMT with UKMT goons talking into microphones about things.
Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive.
Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out.
We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The second-most UKMT-iest of Podcasts.
Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts.
Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out.
Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good.
Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik
Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news.
Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests.
Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests.
[Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative.
Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen.
General Intellect Unit - Podcast of the Cybernetic Marxists. Examining the intersection of Technology, (Left) Politics, and Philosophy; decently in-depth and theory-driven as podcasts go.
Alpha 2 Omega - Tom O'Brien talks political strategy.
Requires Improvement - Podcast of lefty teachers exploring all things education, from a socialist perspective.
Swampside Chats - "The highest communist podcast"

mehall posted:

Fresh new podcast on the state of Labour factionalism from your thread comrades over at Podcasting is Praxis, plus also Jack off of Reel Politik -

https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1255989056674107394?s=20

Hocktide
Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh
Demanding The Impossible - David Morland
Demanding the Impossible: A History of Anarchism - Peter Marshall
Chav Solidarity - D. Hunter
No Shortcuts: Organizing for Power in the New Gilded Age - Jane McAlevey
Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy
At The Cafι – Malatesta
The Method of Freedom – Malatesta
In Praise of Idleness – Russell
Political Ideals – Russell
Declaration – Hardt and Negri
Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo
God and the State – Bakunin
The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin
Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin
Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman
Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg
Violence – Slavoj Zizek
Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber
Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze
Flat Earth News - Nick Davies
Hack Attack - Nick Davies
Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin
Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin
Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons

International Workers' Day (thanks feedmegin)

quote:

I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land.

Barking :shittydog: - feedmegin
Bexleyheath and Crayford - Rolled Cabbage
Bristol East - Luxury Tent Carpet
Bristol West - Pistol_Pete, Rarity
Broxtowe - MikeCrotch
Bury St Edmunds - Cluncho McChunk
Canterbury - Spangly A
Chelmsford - Trickjaw
Cotswolds (yes, we do have one) - Yvonmukluk
Cumbernauld - mehall ('s partner)
Dulwich and West Norwood - maugrim
Ealing Central and Acton - Comrade Fakename
Edinburgh Central (s?) - Autonomous Monster
Edinburgh Central, Ipswich - Lord of the Llamas
Enfield Southgate - spiderbot
Glasgow Southside/Central - Niric
Havant - Last Emperor
Hertford and Stortford - Brovine
Hyndburn - Kegluneq
Leeds East - mrpwase
Leeds North East - Irving Washington
Manchester Central - Jakabite
Northampton - superLINUS
North-East Somerset (the long-shot campaign to unseat Jacob Rees-Mogg) - Darth Walrus
Paisley & Renfrewshire South - Sanitary Naptime
Rochford and Southend East - DesperateDan
Salisbury (and Salisbury Momentum, which is now a thing that actually exists) - Wolfsbane
Sheffield South East - Cast_no_shadow, Mebh
South East Cambridgeshire - Stoic Fnord
Southampton (Test) - waffle, Nova88
St Austell & Newquay - Oh dear me
Stockport - Taear, Tesla was right
Stroud - sebzilla
Swansea West - Borrovan
Tatton - Bundy
Watford - SpaceCommie
Wimbledon - chestnut santabag

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learnincurve posted:

Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this.

If you get sanctioned then to prevent your housing and council tax benefits falling like a house of cards, and in some case get access to a utility bill fund, call your local council for a "Nil Income Form".

Maugrim posted:

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Ms Adequate posted:

I have to say, that doesn't do a huge amount for his "I wasn't involved in the bombing" claim.

It is pretty metal though :black101:
Given the state of the trial (and the state of hanging in the US at the time, which had not yet implemented drop tables), it could just be an admission of really not wanting to be hanged.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Ms Adequate posted:

Nah the cruelty is the point. I remember a documentary I watched a few years ago - think it was Portillo whomst was presenting - and after finding a potential means of execution involving some gas or other widely believed to be painless if it was used for such a purpose, took the idea to some top pro-execution oval office in Texas or somewhere.

Said oval office was almost visibly shaking with rage at the prospect of a less cruel, more reliably painless means of execution. All the talk about wanting to do it 'properly' and how it is a grim necessity or what have you went directly out of the window as soon as an actual alternative was presented. That talk lasts as long as is required to try and avoid the cruel and unusual punishment clause, and not a micron further.
There was something of a movement towards progressive capital punishment in the late 19th century, as long as progressive meant 'set them on fire with electricity' or 'small room filled with the bad acid gases'.

I think it's only Washington state that bothered to go with measured drop hanging. Idaho and (at one point anyway) Utah let you pick firing squad, which seems fairly humane compared to all the rest. I'm surprised it isn't more popular given certain law departments' love of shooting people and the psychological positioning of the gun as a tool to turn injustice into justice.

Portillo's method was dry nitrogen gas, which works very well, but you might die without knowing it, so justice does not happen. Also he got hanged in effigy in the documentary so it's worth watching.

Anyway, speaking of extremely normal things happening in America, Maryland has called in the National Guard and state police to guard coronavirus tests and supplies, to stop them being seized by the federal government to be redistributed to states that DJT likes.

Dead Goon posted:

Just having a click through the Podcasts as you do when there's a new thread and the OP is the first post you see (and you are adding podcasts to your catcher that you will never listen to).

Agitpod link is dead.
Reasons to be Cheerful link is dead.
Revolutionary Despatches hasn't had a new episode for >1 yr.
Have either of the first two got new links, or are they gone?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Thanks, updated.

Dell_Zincht posted:

£14.48 to pay in fines
We must secure the existence of public libraries and a future for literate children. Dale Hitler.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Pictured: DesperateDan with more money and less self control.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Going back to cooking as repeated worker appropriations of cooking up whatever you have with whatever you have from last thread, this looks like something I want to eat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn1ttBVVx7U

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Dale Hitler's his cousin and also a oval office.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Also from last month's thread, but there's some extremely pro stuff at this place.

Soylent Yellow posted:

https://brew2bottle.co.uk/

This should help anyone wanting to carry on punishing their livers. I ordered some stuff from here a couple of weeks ago. Decent prices for mail order.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Renaissance Robot posted:

iirc the bizarre cocktail they use for lethal injections is used specifically because it keeps you awake until death (and has a chance of feeling like liquid fire is being pushed through your veins), when you could much more reliably kill people through injection by ODing them on anaesthesia.

But like guav said, that's no fun because then they might die without knowing about it.
Also because, specifically in the case of lethal injection, that would risk making it a medical procedure. You usually need qualifications and permission from medical associations to go around injecting people with drugs effectively, and both doctors and pharmaceutical suppliers increasingly refuse to have anything to do with it, leading to the rise of lethal injection cocktails made of 'some bullshit'.

As the inventor of the original cocktail puts it, it's currently at the stage where it's more humane to just use a guillotine.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

i was worried that this coronavirus thing was going to continue to cause suffering of some kind but i've looked at facebook and The Facebook Team have added a special new hug reaction emoji thing so I guess that's it that's the virus over now thank you facebook

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Soylent Yellow posted:

It's rather telling that livestock is slaughtered with quicker and more reliable methods than people. The US execution methods (lethal injection, as well as the older mostly discontinued methods like the electric chair and gas chamber) just have so many potential points of failiure built into them that I can only assume they're deliberately needlessly complex. I think this is in part due to proponents of the death penalty having a compulsion to add a sense of theatre to the process. Something as quick and simple as a captive bolt gun or nitrogen asphyxiation wouldn't satisfy this need.
There's plausible deniability built into a lot of the modern ones too. Nobody wants to be the guy in the hood pulling the trapdoor lever, so now they need a firing squad of six with one blank, or three people pushing the button for the syringe pump, or throwing the switch for the chair.

You don't get that with a bolt gun, although I suppose you could have a panel of people pushing the button for a dry nitrogen chamber. The heart of the contradiction is wanting a state that kills people without any identifiable person killing anyone.

OwlFancier posted:

Genuinely sick and tired of these loving snowflakes whose sole concern in life is waving a loving flag around because that's the only problem they've ever had.

It's literally exactly what they complain about the left being. Useless coddled old wastes of skin.
look if I believe that only the direct progeny of the house of Anglo-Saxon-Goering should ever get to be the Head of State then that doesn't necessarily make me a racist

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Over the counter Sarco when?


Aphex- posted:

Best flag is the Mozambique one because it's got an AK-47 on it.
And a book. And a hoe.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Continuity RCP posted:

I take the furlough very seriously so I'm not even looking at hilarious minion memes on the work Facebook group
post you are own

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Why choose between dying and going to work when you can have both!

this has been an announcement from the Conservative COVID-19 Preparedness Team

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Josef bugman posted:

Oh good we are back into "hope is a lie" I really missed this.

Even if it is a lie in general it is not a lie for all, or a lie for us. I do not have hope in general, but I think working towards something as opposed to just sitting to one side, is always helpful.
Be this the whetstone of your sword. Let grief
Convert to anger. Blunt not the heart, enrage it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

Still though, don't you ever get an urge to smoke some squidgy plastic hash
:itwaspoo:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Josef bugman posted:

Yeah.

I think I am going to go away again for a few days, maybe catch up on my reading.

Does anyone have any recommended books about things we should all know about, but currently don't?
I'd recommend reading something completely unrelated to what's happening, but full of useful general social ideas, like from the Civil Rights movement or Peterloo. Or learn something new like homebrewing or macrame or gas-cooled fast reactor design.

Or read Camus' The Plague if you want something closer to home. :v:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Josef bugman posted:

Thank you. have currently been trying to get through some thicker books, so might aim for something a bit less heavy atm.
One of the most (if not the main) important skills of an educator or organizer is to communicate a complex idea in a way that a person who may never have been exposed to that idea can intuitively understand through their lived experience, so some of the best books on social justice matters aren't thick or heavy.

Steve Biko explained the threefold Hegelian dialectic to me in I Write What I Like better than any number of pages of Hegel could, because he was communicating to a different audience and not being deliberately verbose.

Which isn't to say that every academic book is useless, a book on organic chemistry that was completely accessible would likely not be useful, and vice versa, and I assume the same goes for the more advanced texts in social study, like Walter Benjamin and his sock fetish, but if you're trying for peasant liberation and your text can't be understood by the peasantry (who aren't thick, they just don't have the background reading and seminars) then your actual aim is Trot wanking.

And on that note I still really need to read Pedagogy of the Oppressed.

Oh dear me posted:

And it would be hard to kid myself that any of them would appreciate all this flag-waving. They didn't ever do it themselves.
My grandad was in WWII, his dad died young as a result of the one before. One thing he always hated was the gaudy displays of poppies on car grills or scarves or anything that wasn't a single paper poppy, worn from Armistice Day to Remembrance Sunday or vice versa.

I'm glad he missed all this



Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

justcola posted:

Twenty years or so ago people would have little flags with the English flag on that clipped onto car windows or sometimes the red and white flag hanging out of a window - but it was more associated with the working class. I think this changed a bit with the riots in 2011 and the following Keep calm and carry on merchandise and 'armies of volunteers' sweeping up the mess from riots, so now there's a group that prefer to use the Union Jack and go more for that midsomer murders aesthetic. Twee as gently caress.

It's an awful flag, 2 primary colours and white, the red diagonal lines are assymetrical, its one of the ugliest flags in the world I reckon.
The one without the diagonals is a far better flag.


There's also a white over red version for use in Scotland.

The use of the George Cross seems a comparatively recent thing outside of the RN White Ensign, look at the footage of the :britain:1966 World Cup Final:britain:, there isn't one in sight in the crowd shots.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
I'm going to team up with that guy to test my prototype piss burner.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Songbearer posted:

I take umbrage with this

5 is a stern looking number with a soft side. You got the curve at the bottom which is the classic sign of a Friendly Number but then it terminates in a straight line at the top just as you're getting to know it. 5 will give you directions but it won't stop to chat. 5 calls its parents regularly but can't bring itself to say "Love you guys." Think Hank Hill and you've got 5.

8 is a Friendly Number. It's cheerful and round and you can't harm yourself with it. 2 also counts since it's a gentle swan.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

happyhippy posted:

Technically the UK is 4 countries, but still, thats loving stupidly high.
International metrics are usually done by sovereign state, rather than provinces cosplaying countries, but even the UK doesn't call NI a country. Ireland is the country, Ulster is the province, and NI is a 'region' of the UK and also kinda Ireland, just so that everyone is a little bit pissed off.

Along with everything else the UK is bad at official designations so nobody wants to give anywhere a full official title like Cymric Autonomous Oblast.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
These are the people that the Karen meme was made for:
https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/02/mums-occupy-childrens-playground-protest-lockdown-12643715/

quote:

We believe the number of people dead from Covid is exemplified (sic). Extra numbers are being added into Covid. We don’t want to be unlawfully rejected or kept inside.

I blame mumsnet.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Some local non-chain pubs are doing takeaway from their partnered breweries if you show up with a 2 or 4 pint milk jug.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Vitamin P posted:

Honest question, if people are saying "the Karen meme seems racially specific and is definitely misogynistic so please don't use it" what is the woke rationale for not respecting that?
*channels Frantz Fanon* Within a gendered society which is also comfortable with many of the less overt ideas of white supremacy, the socially approved ways for white women to perform white normality will differ from the socially approved ways for white men to perform white normality, e.g. the contrast between calling the cops on black people for having a picnic vs. verbally confronting them in a racialist manner yourself. This also intersects with differences between the middle class performance of whiteness and the working class performance of whiteness. So long as these exist it's worthwhile having words to distinguish them.

It's also worth noting that 'Becky' never got the same kind of outrage that 'Karen' did. Beckys tend to be younger and more working class than Karens.

It's also also worth noting that everyone mad about Karen found 'Shaneequa' for all black women hilarious or at the bare minimum never spoke up when it was joked about.

(Also it pisses off Spiked, or at least makes them performatively outraged, which points to it being right.)

sassassin posted:

I don't see gender, only the manager.
:discourse:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Vitamin P posted:

*channels a normal person* You've folded the misogynistic elements into the racial bit, it's neat rhetoric but you've dodged the stronger half of the Karen critique, if women are saying "we're asking you to stop using this sexist insult of the whiney nagging woman" and your reply is "lol no nice try bitch but I see your white normality behaviour" then you haven't actually addressed their point, you've dismissed it so you can keep doing the funny meme you like under a mask of anti-racist performative intellectualism THAT YOU EVEN ADMITTED WAS PERFORMATIVE AT THE START OF YOUR POST
I don't see anyone calling black or Asian women Karens, so the question of whether there's a misogynistic element folded into the racial bit is a bit like "is it misogynistic to shut down white feminism?"

It isn't, white feminism is as bad as brocialism.

Vitamin P posted:

Isn't Becky just a lesser Stacey? If there's some other element then fair play I've never heard it but there's no element of it that would provoke any outrage, and again your obfuscating the sexism but with age and class this time.
Nah, but the difference between the response to 'Becky' mostly being good faith 'yeah we should watch out for that' and the response to 'Karen' (especially when it's used by younger or BAME women) shows that the latter is the hiss of privilege scratched.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Vitamin P posted:

And yeah again we have irreconcilable differences. The Bernie Bro poo poo and "brocialism" in broad was a deliberate top-down meme to undermine the women, poc and older people that supported Bernie or any distributive movement using the lovely radlib moral framework capital is currently forcing on us.
Brocialism exists. It's in the SWP rape circles and whatever it was that the LibCom guy was doing and every MRA that supports hair thin socialism that benefits them but no further, or pines nostalgic for the days when a household could live on a single income while ignoring that it usually happened because one party was doing 12 hours of work for no pay.

Doesn't have anything to do with Hillary only losing because of the Bernard Brothers Online, except when extremely liberal people try to force it.

Tarnop posted:

Calling "Karen" a misogynist slur is the same as calling the discussion of toxic masculinity misandrist (a fave of the alt right). It's the behaviour that's being criticised, but as Guava said we're in a society that loves to strictly demarcate behaviours between the genders, and those on the left are equally critical of men who use direct violence rather than calling the manager.
Hopefully more critical, because Karens only indirectly get people killed, whereas the modern equivalent of Bull Connors etc just do it themselves.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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I guess Trad Left, Orthodox Marxist, and anything that looks like an adjective that a splinter group of Catholics who split off because the Pope stopped burning people for heresy would use.

Guavanaut
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OwlFancier posted:

Does Orthodox Marxist mean something other than just agreeing with the points marx made? Cos I think I scored pretty high as one on that quiz thing.
Yes but especially the bits about being really homophobic and probably dodgy about immigration, if 90% of the people who proudly call themselves one above all other labels is anything to go by.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Also if women and LGBT folks don't want to join your social movement because you refuse to seriously tackle sexual harassment and worse within your upper ranks then you done hosed up.

At this point I'm beginning to think that's a consequence of almost any form of hierarchy, at least that comes out of our current social environment. It affects anti-hierarchical movements too but at least they're more often prepared to gather around and talk about it rather than close ranks around the leadership.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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That's what Feminism-Appropriating Reactionary Transphobes was made for.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Coohoolin posted:

There should absolutely be a mechanism to protect kids from their parents' lovely naming attempts, but it needs to be decentralised because I can easily imagine a british naming law saying no to welsh or gaidhlig names.
Maybe in the 1890s, but the legal status of Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Irish, Scots, Ulster Scots and Cornish (you can take an oath of allegiance or court affirmation in all of them, which is the closest to a de jure language as the UK can be bothered) ought to rule that out.

Mandating that names with no consensus Romanization like مُحَمَّد‎ or علي‎ be registered as 'John' or 'Clive' to placate the haram steak lot otoh...

Jedit posted:

I have personally met Richard Head, so they're not all myths.

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Nov 27, 2009

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When your real name is too hardcore for wrestling so you have to tone it down.

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Failed Imagineer posted:

it's racism, op
It seems to be more classism in the UK. The Orangejello and Lemonjello poo poo is more explicitly racist, but also something I've not seen as much of in the UK compared to other places. The UK racist equivalents are more like complaining that the number 1 boys name is Mohammed, followed by Saddam and Osama it's Oliver, George, and Harry, whereas the more direct UK version (i.e. mocking the ignorance of the parents rather than quaking in fear at the Jihad babies) seems to be 'chavvy' names.

There's some racism in there in that the names considered 'chavvy' often have some degree of overlap with anglicized Irish names, but it's different in character to the urban legend 'black' names poo poo.

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Peter Hitchens's extended Sunday normal one continues, in which he asks us to please think about the landlords, doesn't understand social distancing, and threatens to walk around wearing a Red Army gas mask.

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Undead Hippo posted:

There are already several. "Napoleon Complex" "Little Hitler" and "Disgusted of Tumbridge Wells" are all male assuming terms, describing similar behaviours to "Karen". An abuse of limited authority, and a jumped up sense of self importance. Karen more specifically puts the context into the area of customer abusing staff-member, but I think it's similar enough.
Also 'gammon' is usually coded as male, and comes with all the "I remember when you could get a shop assistant who spoke English" passive aggressive racism that Karenism embodies.

And probably dated because I have no clue what South Park is up to now, but 'Cartman' was a good epithet for sociopathic little pricks who immediately let the tiniest shred of authority go to their heads.

Totally unrelated:

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History Comes Inside! posted:

Some utter oval office that I work with has pitched "if this app works the police should be out doing spot checks and fining people who haven't got it installed, and shops should be checking at the door and refusing to let people in if they don't have it"

What the gently caress is wrong with people
The worst thing about this app bullshit is that it's put me on the side of Google and Apple against the NHS.

I think that's mostly an example of the neoliberal trend of "government can't do anything right, vote for us and we'll prove it."

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Bobstar posted:

Going back to Thief of Time (I always forget how good it is): before anything else, people fear Kaos.
Tuck you in, warm within
Keep you free from sin
'Till the milkman he comes

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I always assumed that's how our version of the sandman worked, because the canonical version where he puts people to sleep by sprinkling sand in their eyes was obviously written by someone who has never been to the beach.

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Nov 27, 2009

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The Scottish version is just a pervert.

Wee Willie Winkie rins through the toon,
Up stairs an' doon stairs in his nicht-gown,
Tirlin' at the window, crying at the lock,
"Are the weans in their bed, for it's now ten o'clock?"

If a man in a dressing gown knocks at your window at 10pm asking about the whereabouts of your children, call the police.

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