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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Ground floor

So here's my map:

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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Youth Decay posted:

Posting on page 1 of what will hopefully be a legendary thread in a good way

If Trump somehow wins after all, we will be owned the hardest, but I'm willing to take that risk

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Cross-Section posted:

Getting in on the ground floor of this shitheap of posts

Please call Florida for Joe so I can go to bed

Friend, Biden will win Florida because the olds will vote for the candidate that doesn't want them to die from covid

I have never been wrong before (I have never predicted anything before either but that's beside the point)

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Antillie posted:

This is pretty good. Maybe add TX and GA if you want to be ambitious.

The Republicans will steal the election in Georgia somehow, they're level 100 election stealers after more than a century of training

In Texas a magical mist will emanate from the ground, turning Democratic ballots Republican

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011




Daring to predict a tie in Arizona

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011




Good sir, your meme map relies on several unlikely outcomes

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Push El Burrito posted:

I think 2016 has just made you complacent on the possibility of red Maine!

And we can't exclude the possibility of Delaware turning on Biden

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



LegendaryFrog posted:

For a dissenting opinion... "serious data analyst" gummi is going with this.

These twitter accounts are going to be a fun visit in a few days.

No way are Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan going Trump.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



TyrantWD posted:

That's the map I went with in the post your map contest.

Which is over here if you want to make your map official:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3946258

Not much time left now!

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



vyelkin posted:

Everybody was horny for JFK.

This time around everyone's horny for BIDEN

The people just want Catholic presidents

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



LegendaryFrog posted:

The in-person turnout for the 2020 election has plummeted by more than 50% since 2016, according to these Dixville Notch results. So much for that election day republican surge!

Edit: Biden sweeped. Won unanimously in Dixville Notch.

Has he claimed victory yet

Wrap it up Trumpailures, 538 sweep for Biden, as well as 69-31 and 420-?? majority for Dems in the Senate and House, respectively

DARPA posted:

16-5 for Trump in Millsfield, NH

don't worry we can get these thrown out for being tardy

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Residency Evil posted:

Standing in line here in the western suburbs of Philadelphia. The line is easily ten times as long as I've ever seen it. Poll workers says they've never seen it like this.

Are they shouting/chanting TRUMP or BIDEN

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



TGLT posted:

ah, so this is the thread where we scream an incoherent articulation of dread?

You're on SA, that's all threads, at all times

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



The Perfect Element posted:

Good luck and god speed US goons. A Trump victory would be officially "good" for the Boris Johnson administration here, so even more reason to hope he loses.

You guys should Brexit so we can give you a yuge, excellent trade deal

[after Brexit]

Did I say excellent? Ugh I always do this

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011




Blue is the liberal color so that part actually checks out

The confusing thing is the GOP using the socialist/communist color

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Gort posted:

Christ, US voting is shoddy as gently caress. I don't think I've ever been at a polling place longer than five minutes.

Every single state and county (municipality?) gets to do its own thing for some insane reason, and there are billions of the latter

So in one place it takes two minutes to vote, and in another place you have to wait for seven hours only for your vote to be rejected because you weren't wearing a hat, in contravention of the somehow anti-Catholic Hat Act of 1769

And if you do manage to vote, and it does get counted, the electors can still do whatever the gently caress they want, maybe they vote Keanu Reeves instead of the candidate who won their state

In conclusion, an extremely normal electoral system

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



military cervix posted:

As a european, it seems I can get access to both CNN and NBC for election night. Which would be better to have on in the background while I incessantly F5 Twitter? I have no knowledge about american TV news.

Follow this thread

I am expecting people's twitter/link game to be ON POINT

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



The Artificial Kid posted:

We just get fined if we don't vote.

Same here...theoretically. Are there places where they actually enforce that?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Lead out in cuffs posted:

I thought the polls were showing a strong chance of Georgia flipping blue this year?

Showing a chance. I don't believe in it, personally

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



John Wick of Dogs posted:

You went a little outside the bubble there I'm afraid we have to throw out this ballot, it's impossible to tell who you meant to vote for

Is it even legal to post your ballot

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Endorph posted:

depends on state

He's probably in a county where it's mandatory to take a picture of your ballot if the sun is shining and the year ends in 0, or something

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Bread Set Jettison posted:

when you accidentally suppress your own votes

That tiny county wasn't going to make the difference, but I'm stil lolling

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Alctel posted:

Having voting machines and not just a paper ballot/box is unfathomable to me as a non american. Like, why?

I have never voted on paper in my life, and I'm definitely not American

Electronic voting is totally fine and a lot more convenient/faster to count as long as you have machines that actually, you know, work. Seems like something you should test beforehand

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Antillie posted:

Hanlon's razor at work here I think.

I just hope these are the idiots that figure Trump's got it in the bag, and just go home

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



luxury handset posted:

90% of the time in cases like this it's the poll workers loving up somehow. they tend to be older folks volunteering their time so you're counting on boomers who type full urls into the google search bar to set up all the machines

I can believe that, I just don't get how it takes so long to fix/there are no contingency plans...unless polls only just opened in Texas? Over here in Flanders (Herent) I had to help organize a polling station for the municipal elections of 2018, we obviously had to set up the machines before voting started, and the procedure involved a few test votes to make sure everything worked correctly.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Murgos posted:

I don't think you understand. Over 90% of US States mandate a paper ballot that then gets inserted into and counted by a machine and saved in case you need a recount. It's not punching keys on an election machine.

Over here I press some buttons on a touchscreen, a piece of paper with the results comes out, and then that piece of paper also gets scanned and saved separately.

This subject came up a while ago, and I remember being surprised that there were apparently so many Western countries where electronic voting isn't widespread. My first election was in 2009, it was already electronic, I never gave it much thought.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



OwlFancier posted:

It is bizzare to me from a security perspective to have ballots that are 1. electronic and 2. secret.

Most electronic voting procedures involve a physical component in case something goes wrong and a recount is needed, as explained by Murgos and myself.

To be honest, I don't think it even makes a difference in that regard, if your democratic culture is so weak that the people in charge are in a position and willing to tamper with the results on a massive scale (without fearing a backlash), then it was going to happen regardless of voting method. I don't think Putin will stop winning elections if Russia suddenly switched away from whatever it is they mostly do now.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Alctel posted:

Counting a ballot box takes literally an hour or two, I did it this year as an election official. It's also witnessed by scrutineers from each party so it's impossible to throw and there's an unbroken chain of ownership on the ballots

Simple = good in this case

I don't think you'll ever get that layer of security with a machine

OK. It seems like a Stone Age level of primitiveness to me, but if it works it works.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Antillie posted:

You can get absolutely bullet proof security from a machine if things are done correctly. The problem is that doing such things correctly requires people who know what they gently caress they are doing being given the budget and time needed to do so without any outside interference in the design process. Which of course will never happen.

As I said earlier, I have honestly never even looked at electronic voting from a security perspective. The idea that someone in a position of power would deliberately tamper with the results is unthinkable to nearly everyone where I live, I have never seen anyone at all bring it up, regardless of political position, from the far left to the far right. If that is happening, or you consider it so likely that you start to become paranoid about the possibility, at a basic cultural level your society has far bigger problems with democracy than choosing one particular voting method over another.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



OwlFancier posted:

The point, I think, is that by ensuring it is all done in the open and physically counting paper ballots that have been watched by a lot of people every step of the way, it keeps people honest. How would you know that the machine was right? I dunno, it seems too serious of a thing to just leave it all up to a machine that you just trust?

Again, and my memory of the specifics has gotten a bit hazy by now, but the system we use also has a secure physical component, so ballots can still be recounted if it is advisable for whatever reason.

I really think this is a case of people getting carried away with 'machine/government bad', but reading some of the stories about the American South, I can't blame people from there for being paranoid. It basically seems to be like a Third World country in that regard.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



OwlFancier posted:

The issue with having the machine at all is that you're still reliant on it to even suggest whether there has been fraud. Which is why I'm a strong proponent of the watched ballot box approach. You have multiple people at all times and from multiple political positions watching the ballots all the time, so that's both your verification system and also your guarantee against tampering to begin with. Even if the electronic option can be verified you presumably wouldn't have any way of knowing whether it should be unless the result seems intuitively wrong to the people in charge?

Like I said the whole concept of just shoveling votes into a machine and then taking the machine's word for the outcome is extremely strange to me. Having lots of people watching the process is the whole point.

I suppose, although in a non-FPTP parliamentary system generally no one party is going to have that kind of power, anyway (either to commit massive fraud or to declare that everything is in order despite widespread irregularities).

Look, keeping all of my money in a sock under my bed is more secure, too, but I'd still prefer to use a bank card, no matter how crucial money is in our society. That's why I don't think this is an argument that can be resolved. All I can say once more is that, if you're at the level of justified suspicion where performing basic actions electronically is a major cause for concern, then there's something rotten at the core of the (financial, electoral, whatever) system in question, something that can't be solved by switching to paper.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Every single thread and subforum that is left unsupervised ends with goons talking about fast food

The food chat entropy will consume us all eventually

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



:hmmyes:

Trump, by putting the wrong condiments on his food and by serving McDonalds at official receptions, has won over the working class who is often mocked by the cultural elite for doing similar things

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Yates posted:

God drat burger snobs are as bad as beer snobs. Five Guys is fine. In and Out is fine. Shake Shack is fine. Even McDonalds and Wendys and Hardees/Carls Jrs are all fine. None are the most amazing thing in the world, none are the worst thing ever. If somebody likes one over the other, that is cool, everybody is different. On this of all days we should come together in our shared love of burger, whether beef or mushroom or other. Thank you.

To be a true American you have to first pick the shittiest type of garbage chain fast food imaginable, and then defend a particular major corporation that produces it to the death over the rest

Also if you hear someone say they put the wrong condiment on their hot dog you have the right to brutally slaughter them and their entire extended family, no jury will convinct you

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011




Heading to the frietkot in a minute

e: I hope it's open

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



John Wick of Dogs posted:

Election law being blatantly violated in Auburn AL


Trump winning the pitbull vote based on his policy of killing people

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Professor Skittles posted:

I need updates and I don't see much !

Trump has a massive lead of 16-10

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Youth Decay posted:

they're just gearing up for the "our cat ate the ballots" excuse

I don't want to fatcatshame but it does look like it

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Rodenthar Drothman posted:

First time I saw pumpkin I thought he was a stuffed animal.
Fucker is cool as a cucumber.

Ginger cats are always chill

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Jul 2, 2011



John Wick of Dogs posted:

Probably from following too many smug podcasters on Twitter

I have Guaranteed them

They will go Biden

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