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DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

eXXon posted:

I'd call her a craven opportunist, but she did this for apparently absolutely nothing in return, so ... what...?

She just secured the Liberal nomination in what is surely now a safe Liberal riding, I wouldn't say that's nothing.

Now Annamie Paul, she absolutely just torched her own Party and Leadership position over a policy position that won't win her a single vote.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2021 20:56

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 17:42

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

folytopo posted:

I think being in government is one part of it, but putting up a big finger to someone who might have been brow beating you constantly in private might also be part of it. Just torching your provincial section and putting up the middle finger might be very satisfying.

Oh you don't even need to qualify the "in private" part the Leader's spokesman was publicly calling for her defeat, that might push any MP to resign, bad luck for Manly that there's no easy way for him to secure a safe seat with another party.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2021 21:13

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

I'm not sure Paul Manly is a Green any more based on his Twitter profile and website.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2021 23:46

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Normy may be right. Websites aren't supposed to be partisan (though plenty acknowledge the MP's Party).

Twitter is weirder but not every MP includes their party.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2021 00:16

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

The Liberals really didn't poach Atwin, Atwin decided to quit on the Greens because Annamie Paul's spokesman said she would work to defeat her, the Liberals said yes because they always say yes to a free seat.

No one, at any point was in any danger of actually caring about the Palestinians.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2021 03:57

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

https://twitter.com/cbcnewsbc/status/1416745322399870981?s=19

Thank Christ I was starting to get worried by all the flames and death (defund the CBC).

# ¿ Jul 19, 2021 02:50

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

End charitable status and we won't have a church burning "problem".

The seizing of assets will happen pretty efficiently from there, most churches struggle just to pay for heating.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2021 16:10

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

ZeeBoi posted:

https://twitter.com/CharlieAngusNDP/status/1423104550764941312

Charlie don't you recognize nth dimensional triangulation when you see it? This is how we finally beat the libs, with the ultimate reasonable middle ground.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2021 05:12

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Baronjutter posted:

I just don't get what the NDP's angle is, like why be pointlessly evil about covid? Why purposefully cause deaths? Is bonnie just still that upset she was proven wrong that just washing your hands isn't enough to defeat covid and that yes, it is airborn and yes masks work?

Every flavour of neoliberal hegemon in North America be they Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative or New Democrat has approached the pandemic in precisely the same manner, viewing it as a balancing act between the economy and public health. Now plainly none of them achieved what they wanted because that's a fundamentally brain broken way to approach a public health crisis, but there's enough of an illusion of difference that most of their traditional voting blocks think we weren't all trying the same abysmal approach long after other countries provided superior models.

Having failed fundamentally, the next policy non-distinction will be learning to live with chronic Covid.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2021 02:31

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Crow Buddy posted:

To a greater or lesser extent, every state and provincial government in North America has realized they are in a prisoner's dilemma. Since the US is the way it is, pursuing a Covid zero strategy is a futile effort.

It was a futile effort because our elites quickly calculated they'd make more money not pursuing a covid zero strategy, not because it couldn't be done, in this they were of course correct. It would be a lot easier to swallow this nonsense about us doing all we could if so many people hadn't gotten rich off of Covid.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2021 07:17

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Bernier looks like poo poo.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 03:22

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

O'toole's leadership is kind of dependent on the imminent threat of another election, I think he's just trying to gaslight his own people.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 05:41

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Shofixti posted:

As the Conservatives start to give more lip service to climate change and the Liberals continue doing a good job of pretending to care about it, is there even room for a Tesla Tory party? If the Liberal candidate in Kitchener hadn’t withdrawn, the Greens would have probably been reduced to just May’s seat. I feel like the Greens should try outflanking the NDP from the left if they want a chance at continued relevance going forward.

Edit - just to be clear, i don’t think going ecosocialist will yield much more electoral success for the Greens but it would at least make their existence more relevant in a PPC kind of way. With FPTP we can only have so many successful parties.

It'll be an uphill climb, their caucus went from 2/3rds eco-left, to a social entrepreneur and a literal Tory.

Hopefully Paul bankrupted the party so bad that only the eco-socialist's bother fighting for it.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 21:04

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

terrorist ambulance posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6188093

Lmao makes you wonder a little bit what the purpose of grabbing a senior Huawei executive for offences allegedly committed against another country in a different, other country was. Oh well, she's going to get a fine, alls well that ends well

It was just a pissing contest between empires with Canada's role being to dutifully genuflect to our hegemon's "case", but there is no real appetite to make the elite on either side personally accountable. It was always supposed to end like this for Meng.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2021 18:44

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

well no poo poo but the question is what deal was made that apparently didn't bother including the release of the Canadian ~~spies~~ citizens.

There's no way a formal deal would include reference to the Michaels since China will never admit the cases are connected or that they retaliated arbitrarily. Maybe there's some kind of behind closed doors agreement or maybe the Americans didn't feel like wasting their negotiating capital on it, as the vassal in this arrangement we really don't get a say.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2021 20:26

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Arc Hammer posted:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/elizabeth-may-won-t-be-green-interim-leader-says-annamie-paul-hurting-party-1.5608501

Annamie Paul still controls party communication and press releases and told Elizabeth May to shut the gently caress up and not take interviews during the election. Even though Paul said she's resigned as leader she's been preventing the Green Party from making press releases without her consent and the group's indigenous members are pissed that Paul didn't let the Greens release a Truth and Reconciliation Day statement.

I do wonder if the eco-socialist faction has a chance in the upcoming leadership contest if the melt camp keeps this civil war going.

# ¿ Oct 3, 2021 17:16

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

The tied to inflation thing is kind of big if true.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2021 06:53

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Reminder, Lizzy ordered her house staff not to hire any non-whites and wouldn't let the UK pass anti-discrimination laws until they gave her household an exemption.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2021 06:32

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Trapick posted:

Their claim was federally regulated businesses are typically larger, while this law applies to many more small businesses.

Of course they could have different number of days or covered some costs for businesses with fewer than ten employees or whatever, instead we get this.

At least call it an interim step to 10 days if they cant deliver.

The NDP have replaced ideology with technocracy. So inspired by this "We polled 3 Tim Horton's Franchisees and 5 is the scientifically correct amount of sick days" poo poo.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2021 09:05

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

folytopo posted:

Even if business will not vote for them, they can still initiate a capital strike. A lot of the appeasement is done to prevent a capital strike. Bob Rae and Roy Romanow were both effected by capital strikes in the 90s and I think it left a lasting impact on the upper echelon of the NDP that run provincial governments.

Yes, now the policy is preemptive surrender.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2021 21:56

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Horwath is awful and incrementally larger seat counts really mean jack poo poo for your voters when the other guys keep getting majorities.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2021 21:38

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

If anyone tried to stop the snowbirds they would literally overthrow the government, except they'd be overthrowing themselves because they are the ruling class.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2021 07:10

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

eXXon posted:

Now I'm torn on what the odds are of universal pharmacare still being in the next big red book versus never being mentioned again in an election campaign.

It will definitely be mentioned again, they'll probably just take a cycle off then recycle the old pamphlets.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2021 20:00

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Sashimi posted:

Doug Ford like the US feds has done a fantastic job at pissing off every voting bloc in the province, but given how weak the field is there's plenty of reason to be concerned he'll just waltz back into power after the election.

The Ontario Libs are no poo poo running on a 4-day Work Week _{_{_{pilot which will never go any further.}}}

Even with that caveat I'd be tempted to vote for that over whatever exciting adjustment to car insurance premiums Horwath is cooking up. At least the Liberals seem aware of what policies the left wants.

# ¿ Jan 14, 2022 21:15

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Yes it's a Liberal pilot of a Liberal plan no Liberal would dream of implementing province wide, it's the policy equivalent of vaporware, I don't care it's still a drat sight better then whatever the ONDP is going to campaign on and it pushes the idea out the Overton side jamb.

Pointing out the inequities in our current system with zero solutions is not the vote getter you might be assuming it to be.

# ¿ Jan 14, 2022 22:07

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Franks Happy Place posted:

https://twitter.com/MoriartyLab/status/1482435033080254475?t=XLI7yCw_KcnunE-mp2ShnQ&s=19

BC hides COVID deaths better than other provinces, it is true.

In happier news it turns out the opioid epidemic and historic heat wave didn't kill anyone.

# ¿ Jan 23, 2022 04:29

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Can't break the law when you've been offered carte blanche

https://twitter.com/CBCOttawa/status/1488205027160305668?t=eieyE7PwDthcK2dVLHbQVA&s=19

# ¿ Jan 31, 2022 22:05

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Gros Tarla posted:

How does this even happen, what the gently caress

We treated the cops like they could do no wrong and their annual budget increase was sacred and inviolable for decades?

# ¿ Feb 5, 2022 17:11

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Development posted:

lol this better not be true

https://twitter.com/cmckenney/status/1494035894562664448?s=20&t=zMM6P2CJRKsXkFGZjWuvHA

This might partially explain, per CTV news they've already hired a new chief and:

quote:

Sources also said Deans paid out the remainder of Sloly’s contract in full as part of his departure. Sloly’s annual salary in 2021 was nearly $360,000. His contract was due to expire in 2024.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2022 23:17

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

CBC doing the yeoman's work of building sympathy for a dipshit who thought attending a protest made him immune to municipal bylaws.

https://twitter.com/Snellk/status/1494244030770827266?t=PKz3nkyFPl4S8-odzCgOkA&s=19

# ¿ Feb 18, 2022 02:07

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

No one's doing an oil embargo, an oil embargo would mean asking people to pay more at the pump.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 06:25

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

That the ONDP has a lovely platform is one of the big reasons Horwath is a bad leader.

Every bit of milquetoast is something she fostered and protects diligently.

# ¿ May 17, 2022 15:20

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Femtosecond posted:

Surely, surely Horwath will quit if she doesn't win a minority right?

She'll go but she'll keep her seat (no way a landlord gives up a sweet sinecure like that) and quietly control the leadership contest to succeed her.

# ¿ May 27, 2022 20:48

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

I honestly wonder if the NDP isn't dodging a bullet with their imminent loss. Horwath with actual power might curse the ONDP for another generation.

# ¿ May 28, 2022 01:16

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

flakeloaf posted:

If that's the first bar you need to clear, then yes, the NDP and Liberals already have a problem

If this is your Leader's fourth provincial election, and no one knows who they are, you might have found your problem.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2022 06:39

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Baronjutter posted:

And sadly the NDP are the libs

mom and dad fight a lot posted:

BC politics are weird

Not disagreeing but a lot of the difference is that Horgan is in power.

Horwath would have governed to the right of Horgan 100% That is in some bizarro reality where she somehow became Premier, despite having spent the last decade proving that's an existential impossibility.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2022 07:14

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Crow Buddy posted:

As bad as our government is, at least it isn't made up of 300-500 random citizens. Optimistic as you may be about the general public (using your own perfectly rational self as the template), you may as well just get rid of the concept of governance if that is what you are replacing it with.

It worked for the birthplace of democracy.

We really need to start challenging some of these assumptions about "representative" democracy, because a 12% plurality of the population handing out majority control doesn't seem better to me then what you're afraid of.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2022 21:17

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

apatheticman posted:

Conservative premiers aren't coming to the table with a good faith negotiating position, they want more money and the ability to privatize.

But we should all want to give them more money, that's the only way to fix the system.

Why isn't the parliamentary majority with the Liberal-NDP coalition allowed to ask them for guarantees in exchange for the money. Guarantees not just about the security of the single payer system but also about reinforcing the system's ability to coordinate a response to a pandemic with national scope and to codify Canadians' reproductive rights. The latter of which otherwise exist only as long as it takes for the Conservatives to realize how wildly successfully their movement allies south of the border's judicial takeover project has been.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2022 16:58

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Piquai Souban posted:

I signed up for the Conservative leadership ballot to vote against my MP (Poilievre) and just got the most deranged e-mail from Leslyn Lewis.

Hinshaw deserves a lot of the blame for this, she defended Alberta's atrocious COVID count and midwifed this conspiracy to life.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2022 21:08

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 17:42

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

https://twitter.com/AdrianMorrow/status/1563138176973123585?t=URx6Q4AwRq1-7KCy0qQ3HA&s=19

Is there a member of the House of Labour with more contempt for workers than the UFCW?

# ¿ Aug 26, 2022 15:38

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