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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Venomous posted:

I will say that this one loving sucks. Craig Murray is a scumbag who shouldn't be trusted + has put his lot in with the fascists of the Alba Party

lmao that Brown Moses was dunked on like that tho, in any situation. gently caress Craig Murray and fucj him too

He is? My impression was always that he's well meaning, but not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Like I remember when he had that picture of the Russians who were accused of the Skripal poisoning arriving at the airport border control at exactly the same time and went: Is this doctored????

Yossarian-22 posted:

The nazi invasion of poland bad, the nazi invasion of AUSTRIA on the other hand

It's very important to remember that German expansionism brought beer to China. Many sides.

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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Nixon's support for the genocide in East Pakistan is already worse than everything Trump did combined. Maybe Trump gets worse if you can determine how many of the global covid fatalities can be blamed on the Trump admin's dogshit pandemic response turning the US into a global superspreader.

Nah, until someone takes a calculator to the mass graves in Yemen we won't really know that. But of course Nixon also has Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. And probably more, but I can't think of any at the moment.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

joepinetree posted:

You absolutely cannot put the 500k covid deaths on Trump. Kamala and other dems explicitly told people not to trust vaccines if they came out before the election, NJ and NY still lead the nation on deaths per million because of their homicidal policies regarding senior homes, etc. This isnt a defense of trump, but it was 100% a joint effort.

So where the Nixon genocides, to be fair.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

joepinetree posted:

And Yemen, Iraq, interventions in Latin America, including the recent coups in Honduras and Bolivia...

Quite, which is why doing megadeath tier lists for US presidents is silly. But we're doing it anyway.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012


Do the TYT have some kind of grandiose motto? Shining light where the light never shines, is free I think.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Not So Fast posted:

It would be one thing if he was just going after the CDC for their incompetent and contradictory response, but for some reason he's also attacking NZ and Australia for their response despite it being much more effective and much more similar to China's response.

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1427679508954497028?s=19
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1429671269331574788?s=19

Lol Max, what are you doin

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

really queer Christmas posted:

The replies are all cursed as gently caress liberals, so I'm now got a better opinion of the horse drug that doesn't do anything.

It can do something alright

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Crowsbeak posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1434583981010325506

Seriously gently caress Lori Lightfoot. Almost worse then Rahm.

Lol at Max though.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:



The problem I'm having with this issue is that people keep petitioning the government to lift the face shield mandate, and it sucks all the oxygen out of getting the government to do anything else with regards to improving their pandemic response.

Because the way I see it, if the face shields do nothing, then maintaining the mandate costs nothing. Maybe it doesn't prevent more cases, but lifting the mandate also would not prevent more cases, either!

As opposed to, say, the government allowing in-door dining. Or the government not properly ventilating buses for public transportation. Or the government allowing call centers to work on-site throughout the entire pandemic. Or the government's contact tracing operations being wholly insufficient. Or any of the number of other similar failures of governance.

All those other points would theoretically produce a more marked decrease in the number of cases of COVID in the country, and yet pretty much none of them are getting any air-time compared to demanding that the government stop asking people to wear face shields.

I bring this up because I feel like a similar thing is happening with regards to vaccines in the West. Now, obviously vaccines have a far greater effect on cases (and hospitalizations, and deaths) than a face shield does, but my impression is that there's a similar effect on the public discourse, and on the actual governing at hand, that everything is focused on getting people vaccinated, and not on anything else that could be done to reduce cases (or hospitalizations, or deaths).

And it's also unfortunate, because even if we begin from the premise that there's some segment of the population that is steadfastly never going to want to get vaccinated, as a result of ideological programming or what-have-you, then it suggests that you'd need to do something else in order to prevent them from getting sick, or to prevent others from getting sick as a result of their actions, and yet such things aren't being considered either, because all of the conversation revolves around "get vaccinated! get vaccinated!"

It's not like they invite zero covid people on TV around here. It's always between people defending the government's covid measures and commercial interests screaming bloody murder. In that sense it's probably better to have a dumb culture war over face shields than over masks like we have here.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

AnimeIsTrash posted:

https://twitter.com/declassifiedUK/status/1439848723262152712

Grayzone adjacent news, the founder was on an early episode of moderate rebels as well.

The one book of Mark Curtis I read was pretty good.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

covid

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1451252719629574145

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

fart simpson posted:

i dont know. i havent been following it at all tbh.

But at what cost?

R. Guyovich posted:

vaccine efficacy took a big hit with delta and will almost certainly take another one with omicron, but neither of those variants dropped rates to zero. even with diminished effectiveness it's irresponsible not to be vaccinated, cringe liberals making it a cultural signifier notwithstanding

Honestly, we might effectively go down to zero vs infection with Omicron, but the Greyboys got that talking point lodged in their head at least one variant ago and even given the worst case against infection, not taking the vaccine is would still effectively be a DoS attack on the health care system unless you're a complete bunker hermit.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Mameluke posted:

The KKKabal wants us to play Pathologic!

Same

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Danann posted:

tag yourself i'm EX-STRAIGHT LEFT

I'm the arrow from Jermey Corbyn to Muslim Community

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Weka posted:



E: Paul Mason seems to be a Corbyn loving ex trot.

lol

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1535161597458522113

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Crowsbeak posted:

Benny as always being the good Demon Rat sheepdog. https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1561035513057927168

Also what triggers you all about Caleb ? I mean he does more work then Benny ever did against imperialism.

Also lol yeah you’re totally going to get the proletariat on your side by promising to destroy their nation. I know a lot of you think America is uniquely evil. But I have a secret all nations can engage in imperialism and all can also potentially take part in liberation from the imperial project of Wall Street, London, and Langley.

Cancelling Ben Norton for the crime of disparaging the party of the Proletariat, the GOP.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Crowsbeak posted:

So we now like Max Blumenthal again right?

Speaking of…
https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1562138858019557377

Hmmm seems like unlike the parasite Ben he is going to not be supporting the murder of a philosophers daughter. Oh and he also has the based Aaron Maate on (wish he could also have Jatie Halper and Matt Taibbi).

Who gives a gently caress about any of this

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's an explicitly self-serving stance to argue that we need to be "patriotic socialists" in the imperial core, like labor aristocrats were all going to jump on the CPI bandwagon because they waved the flag.

Anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ1sk4yo7qg

I don't expect anyone to watch this 2 hour stream because I sure as Hell won't, but the first 15 minutes are enough to see where it's going. Haz is real shook up by Dukina's assassination and the reaction to it, and now he's declaring that all "leftists" want to kill "us." He's also saying that they need to stop engaging with leftists online like they're going to, what, cloister themselves into their own bubble? Do they think the average American even knows who Dugin is? This poo poo is spinning out of control insanely fast, and it's going to waste a lot of time having to re-educate people who buy into this garbage.

I don't even get who they think they're trying to reach out to anymore. If this split in the online left is going to be over Dugin how can they claim to even be patriotic socialists? Dugin is the based anti-imperialist anti-American Eurasianist thought leader. Whatever else you can say about him he's explicitly anti-American. Who the Hell is any of this even for?

I don't have any idea who those streamer types are, but would it be fair to say that some dudes noticed that the chapo pod was making GBS threads money and they wanted in on that?

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Crowsbeak posted:

Where are the Nazis . Are they in the room with you now?

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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

The government is handling covid in a way that's deliberately harmful to all of us, they're just not doing it by having us take the vaccine per se.

There was this period where they were very concerned™ that any public health measure would lead to lower vaccine uptake in some triple layer confidence play. It was pretty vile.

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