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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Now now, if you're gonna quote me at least give me credit. It took me quite a while to write all that!

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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Rime posted:

It's fairly telling that they all read this thread however no goon has had the balls to post "Through The Eye of a Needle" over there yet, with its many largely irrefutable conclusions regarding material constraints. :science:

Cope yourselves into the grave, we'll enjoy the LMAO's on the way down.

I'm flattered, Rime, but I'm hardly representative of "they"!

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Mayor Dave posted:

2000 words on why it's good, actually, for Biden to resume selling drilling permits

Only 1100 words, actually, and, no, it does suck that they are resuming the sale of leases! But I think the leftist disagreement comes down to "Biden should just ignore court orders and do whatever he wants, because that's what the previous guy did and he got away with it!"

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Complications posted:

ah, true wild optimism in its natural habitat

you just don't see that very often these days

or anything else that's wild

To be fair, it’s easy to be an optimist when the federal government will provide endless subsidies and bailouts essentially unconditionally.

Make no mistake: most of these farms wouldn’t be around if it weren’t for those guarantees.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Fighting climate change, one collapsed roof at a time:

https://twitter.com/DeafishBlogger/status/1475555682149494784

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/01/20/canada-island-nature-conservancy-vikstrom/

quote:

Developers pleaded to buy his island for years. He said no, and in a final rebuff, he gave it to a conservancy.

The pristine island is nestled between two of Quebec’s major cities, Montreal and Laval.

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Thor Vikström has gotten countless calls from developers wanting to buy his seven-acre island that he can see from his Quebec home. He has owned the island since the 1960s, and fiercely protects it as a natural habitat.

Developers pleaded with him to sell so they could build roads, high-rises and bridges on it, he said.

“You think you’re going to destroy my island with that stupidity?” he recalled responding to the developers, who opened their bids decades ago at $500,000.

He purchased the island, called Îl Ronde, in the late 1960s for $5,000, with one goal in mind: to protect and preserve it. He recently donated it for the very same reason to the Nature Conservancy of Canada.

It’s now valued at $125,000, he said, but he believes it is worth much more than that.

“I don’t want money. I want the island to be an island, and I want the life that comes and goes here to have a home,” Vikström said. “No amount of money can ever buy it.”

“My life is not forever,” said Vikström, 93, who still works at a family-run hydraulics company he started in 1980. “The island has to be protected.”

The island, surrounded by the Prairies River, is considered a rare jewel of biodiversity, particularly because it is situated between two of Quebec’s major cities — Montreal is to the south, and Laval is to the north.

There are countless species that thrive there, including shagbark hickory — a type of tree that is considered threatened in the province — plus map turtles, which are also designated by the Canadian government as a “special concern.”

From his vantage point, he often sees water birds, map turtles and unique tree species, flourishing in their natural habitat. It’s the same view he’s had for the past five decades, and yet, it still fills him with wonder.

“We have to be careful, and we have to make sure that some part of it stays protected,” said Vikström, who moved from Sweden to Canada with his late wife and firstborn son in 1962 and subsequently founded Scanada, his hydraulics company.

Not long after arriving in Quebec, Vikström built his dream riverside home. What appealed most about the property, he said, is that it overlooked an island, brimming with birds, turtles and trees. For him, being constantly surrounded by wildlife was a perfect way to live.

“I have loved nature from the day I was born,” Vikström said. Owning an untouched island “was my dream.”

Although it took several years to persuade the previous owner of Îl Ronde to sell it to him, once the island was in his possession, “you can’t imagine how happy I was,” Vikström said. “I don’t know how to express it.”



In Vikström’s case, “it was never a question of buying it, it was a question of protecting it,” he said.

Indeed, his primary motive to buy the island was to safeguard it. In his effort to protect it, though, he also had the opportunity to bask in its splendor each day.

His family regularly visited the natural oasis and invited friends to spend time there, too. In the summer months, it was an ideal camping spot, and in the winter, snow-coated branches made for a picturesque view.

“It was actually the best thing in the world to grow up there,” said Vikström’s eldest son, Hans Vikström.

He recalls waking up early in the morning to see the sun rise on the island, hot chocolate in hand, sitting next to his father, who sipped his coffee as he admired the animals.

“We’d just watch the ducks,” said Hans Vikström, 63. “It’s a natural aquarium.”

While the Vikström family enjoyed the island as a backyard haven, there were strict rules in place — such as no fires or littering — to ensure that the natural habitat was never disrupted.

Several species of waterfowl, including Canada goose, wood duck, gadwall and American wigeon, flock to the island, and various fish populations, such as burbot, northern pike and largemouth bass, frequent its waters. The conservation of the island’s shorelines, and the maintenance of the water quality, is key to the animals’ survival.

Although Vikström’s three children, as well as his six grandchildren, all vowed to continue caring for the island and its inhabitants, the family agreed that in order to protect the natural habitat indefinitely, they needed to donate it.

The Nature Conservancy of Canada, a private nonprofit conservation organization, is elated by Vikström’s donation, which was finalized last month. Although the island is no longer in the family’s possession, “we are free to enjoy the island for as long as we live,” Hans Vikström said.

“Every time someone makes a gift, it’s for everyone,” said Joël Bonin, the associate vice president of development and communications for the organization’s Quebec chapter.

“Individual actions sum into a large and very impactful objective,” he continued, adding that the donation will contribute to Canada’s goal of protecting 30 percent of land and water by 2030.

What a badass.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1493653824216735748

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

silicone thrills posted:

Continuation of yaupon tea chat from a few weeks ago - got mine and tried the green, mint, chai, and fire roasted and wow. really good. A++ would try to grow this and make my own or just continue buying it.

lost pines yaupon is good. they're located here in austin and i buy from them regularly

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://twitter.com/weathertrevor/status/1506428814817210370

the new normal

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

I started reading The End of Ice (someone here mentioned it last week) and holy poo poo, it's intense.

For example, I didn't know that it takes up to a decade to fully realize the warming effects of any CO2 that is emitted.

What that means is that even if we magically stopped all CO2 emissions today, the planet would continue warming up for years yet, like a momentum effect.

lmao

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://ig.ft.com/climate-game/

loving kill me

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

forever chemi(nt)cal

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Vox Nihili posted:

I think I would have about five minutes to find shelter in a humid 140* F environment before I died

i take it you've never been in a sauna?

edit: yeah 140 is hot as gently caress, but deadly mostly only to old people and those who are outside for extended periods

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

someone quote the plastic barbie song from a few pages back

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

ive been in london for the past two weeks and lol there's a surprising amount of nature here, and the air is startlingly clean

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

If you're still here please see the stone henge exhibit at the British Museum. It's less about stone henge and more about life in general back then, and it is very good.

yeah going today actually! will report back

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

burn baby burn

https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1522531025368326144

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Catpetter1981 posted:

Is there a feedback thread for mods back up yet? Because we’ve got another mod banning people in c-spam for basic reading comprehension issues (on the mods end).

That’s the kindest way of wording it btw.

Be the change you want to see

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://twitter.com/xr_cambridge/status/1526109626307166209

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

i think it was the way they bragged about killing the dog and going back inside and making dinner or whatever that rubbed people the wrong way

nobody who is normal in the head can be nonchalant about that kind of stuff

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1549435361058820096

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://twitter.com/jimrossignol/status/1549310199873392640

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Some people pay insane amounts of attention to their lawns because they feel like their lawns are one of the few things they have real control over. I mean, think about it: the climate is collapsing, the economy is a house of cards, their jobs probably offer no security, their kids are spending most of their evening on tiktok despite all their attempts at limiting that poo poo...

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

IAMKOREA posted:

What do those years at those heights actually represent?

The average height of humans. We have been getting shorter over time and nobody is talking about it!

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Griz posted:

anything good in this will be more than offset by manchin's bullshit

https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/n...NQzBRQXZEX0J3RQ

This article appears to be based on a misreading of the bill text:

https://mobile.twitter.com/swolecialism/status/1552774289614639105

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Hubbert posted:

i'm the protagonist of this movie so i will survive the collapse of industrial civilization and the earth's biosphere

cya suckers

:c00l:

https://mobile.twitter.com/dril/status/757914951868485632

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

i feel like if you have more than $5 million you're probably a net drain on society

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Does anyone have any recommendations for podcasts about climate change?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://mobile.twitter.com/anandrg/status/1554111642253660162

Climate saved!

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://twitter.com/eladgil/status/1554891894517223425

:jerkbag:

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

A Bakers Cousin posted:

again they had resources but chose to use them a certain way

My cousin used to work for the IRS. Here's the gist of it: the reason IRS enforcement actions overwhelmingly affect "normal" people today is that normal people have relatively straightforward taxes, and tend to make similar mistakes or cheat on their taxes in predictable ways that are easy to detect, which means tax actions on them (cross-checks, audits and collection) can be, and have been, almost fully automated. In contrast, the IRS does not have the resources to go after high earners because those people can employ armies of accountants and lawyers to make audits very costly for the IRS. Automating those doesn't work either because every case is very different and very complex.

That's not to say that this bill is some sort of silver bullet. But it will do a lot of good.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Top Gun Reference posted:

whoa. thanks for the insider info. this is why they call Something Awful the smartest forum on the interne.t

You're very welcome. ;)

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://twitter.com/dcwoodruff/status/1556366176225222656

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

While you losers were doomering, Dems were making things happen:



:smug:

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Catboy Slim posted:

hey will the resulting court cases still fall under the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court jw

they will fall under the jurisdiction of my very large dick, hth

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Zodium posted:

they're not orthogonal. all of this has the same primary reason: capitalism.

Capitalism is bad, but humans are lovely, greedy fucks even without it.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/the-soviet-union-once-hunted-endangered-whales-to-the-brink-of-extinction/

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Barnum Brown Shoes posted:

Kind of :okpos: but shouldn't we be building underground housing?

ancients already did

https://www.mybestplace.com/en/article/derinkuyu-the-extraordinary-underground-city-of-turkey

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

mawarannahr posted:

what is this, a city for ants?

I grew up like 2 hours away from there, and every time we visited it blew my loving mind.

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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Risk of multiple climate tipping points escalates above 1.5°C global warming

quote:

The Sixth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), stated that risks of triggering climate tipping points become high by around 2°C above preindustrial temperatures and very high by 2.5–4°C.

This new analysis indicates that Earth may have already left a "safe" climate state when temperatures exceeded approximately 1°C warming. A conclusion of the research is therefore that even the United Nations' Paris Agreement goal to limit warming to well-below 2°C and preferably 1.5°C is not enough to fully avoid dangerous climate change. According to the assessment, tipping point likelihood increases markedly in the "Paris range" of 1.5–2°C warming, with even higher risks beyond 2°C.

The study provides strong scientific support for the Paris Agreement and associated efforts to limit global warming to 1.5°C, because it shows that the risk of tipping points escalates beyond this level. To have a 50% chance of achieving 1.5°C and thus limiting tipping point risks, global greenhouse gas emissions must be cut by half by 2030, reaching net-zero by 2050.

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