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Ruzihm posted:That implication is a strawman you created in your brain
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Verus posted:What prevents Biden from pardoning all victims of the war on drugs, today? above and beyond that biden is old and from the former political era where you had something called "political capital" and you saved and saved that capital for something you really really want. if i had to put money down i'd say it's a mixture of not caring and not wanting to "spend" the "political capital" so he can "save" it to push...*checks notes* *turns page* *turns page* ...
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Nov 4, 2021 00:51
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i wonder what the news would be reporting on now if trump had won, drat sure they wouldn't be doing stories like these.
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Nov 4, 2021 22:12
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should we start a poll to see how to handle people who advocate for direct action?
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Nov 5, 2021 22:45
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Darkrenown posted:Why bother, mods don't abide by the results.
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Nov 5, 2021 23:32
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Gumball Gumption posted:If almost a majority of the country now identifies and supports a set of political beliefs that doesn't recognize elections and wants to kill anyone who isn't white, straight and able bodied, than how do you win elections so that they can't do that? everything the chud third do and say is designed to obfuscate reality, to give cover for their goals, to make them socially acceptable to support if a chud candidate actually said "i want to eliminate all minorities": every major media outlet would cover it with a mealy mouthed "candidate reveals controversial stance" which gives every chud outlet and voter enough cover to alter the conversation further with "so we're being persecuted for controversial stances?? like JESUS???" now a third of the country give the "ok" sign to a third of the country who rolls their eyes at everyone freaking out about controversial opinions and innocent hand signs and whether or not racism is "violence" or not
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Nov 8, 2021 19:17
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Peter Daou Zen posted:If Trumps a dictator, he did a pretty bad job at “seizing control” and overturning the election. If his people are Nazis , then the Democrats are collaborators for not prosecuting.
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Nov 8, 2021 20:53
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is pepsi ok posted:What if instead of chasing the right wing understanding of patriotism they tried to redefine the term as caring for your fellow Americans and made that the central messaging of a new bill of rights that guaranteed healthcare, jobs, and a living wage to all citizens?
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Nov 8, 2021 22:08
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yeah, i'm sure if gas prices were low they'd be talking about how great biden is. just look at the stock market that they talked up meant so much under trump...
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Nov 9, 2021 00:29
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Obama had an N-word tape out before he ran for President and Fetterman doesn't. "fetterman believes that-" "YOU MEAN THE GUY WHO CHASED A BLACK MAN????"
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Nov 9, 2021 22:18
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Dr. VooDoo posted:During his testimony the defense had Rittenhouse put on a fake display of crying and being a reluctant killer. His actions he photographed while violating his bail release terms (that this same judge hand waived away as it was happening in real time and the photos were being posted) shows otherwise. The judge won’t allow it to be admitted
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Nov 10, 2021 21:33
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TulliusCicero posted:These are only state charges right? The Feds can charge him as well correct? i think it was a brittany spears trial (?) where everyone thought the judge was being big and bombastic because of the attention and so many lawyers came out to say "no, judges are just like that" almost like a job with unchecked power and no consequences attracts the wrong sort of people...
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Nov 10, 2021 23:39
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Cranappleberry posted:I highly recommend everyone (who wants to and can stand it) watch the videos of the shootings (and of rittenhouse stuff before + during the protest) rather than the media walk-throughs or trial summaries.
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Nov 11, 2021 00:21
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Cranappleberry posted:It's more that the media gives an incomplete account. Much of the video, images amd explanation given by major media orgs or individual pundits lacks full context. The prosecution at also leaves out a lot (partially due to the judge not allowing things). how so? what's the proper context? can you give an example?
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Nov 11, 2021 00:50
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i don't want to argue, i appreciate the effort, i just don't think you proved your case. but, again, i do appreciate the actual answer, thank you.
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Nov 11, 2021 02:13
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Zotix posted:I don't understand why if executive privilege is determined by the sitting President that the appeals court can't easily say denied. Because they will rule at the end of the month and then it is appeal to the supreme court which will be heard in 2023 or whatever. the entire apparatus was built with the idea that good people will work hard to make america great for everyone. then the rich folks built their domes and made sure all the good oxygen got pumped into their dome. bush jr really started dismantling it, he was a career monster with lots of career monster in his corner.
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Nov 12, 2021 00:10
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i would have thought "i didn't mean it like that" would have been the end to the conversation of whether or not they meant it like that but here we are 6 hours later...
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Nov 12, 2021 01:35
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quote:What? It absolutely was not. The apparatus was designed by elites (the founding fathers) in a very specific way to make sure they retained control of the electoral process, hence the outsized power of the Senate (originally not even an elected office) and the electoral college (not actually required to vote in the way that their state population does).
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Nov 12, 2021 04:10
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Republicans posted:Exactly, he shouldn't have been there. He was as much a part of that riot as they were and should be punished accordingly. in this case everyone in the chud sphere was talking for weeks about how these protesters were dangerous monsters killing thousands and burning down whole cities, the president was telling people the army needs to go in and clean up all these violent sickos and monsters tearing cities to pieces with no end in sight and this child, with no permission, training, experience, and armed only with a rifle went specifically into one of those hellmouths. now he's all crying on stage because, shock of shock, the democrat's demonic plan to destroy america with violence involved violence!!! all his tears and blubbery blubbering about the situation he asked his mom to drive him too. he put himself into a chaotic situation and gave himself authority backed up with deadly force with the assumption that he would be hailed as a hero if he he used the right he granted himself to murder "bad people" by virtue of watching lots of ben shapiro. also i just straight up don't trust this child, who chose to go into a dangerous situation armed and was SHOCKED to discover there was danger, to judge "self defense". even not making assumptions of his fragile chud nature, people who fantasize about flashing guns at every minority that stops at a red light next to them, i don't trust his judgement.
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Nov 12, 2021 08:04
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lil poopendorfer posted:People define Nazi differently, some people in this thread called Trump voters Nazis. To me, that's insane. karen:bitch they're interchangeable because it's all just a matter of degrees
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Nov 12, 2021 16:16
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CommieGIR posted:Its funny, but knock it off, thanks.
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Nov 12, 2021 16:29
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Do you honestly believe only ~10K Americans would have died from Covid under Hillary in 2020?
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Nov 15, 2021 20:04
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Steve Bannon wants to take down the BIDEN OCCUPIED GOVERNMENT he'll be doing his bin laden thing long after we're all dead
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Nov 15, 2021 23:54
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OctaMurk posted:I think handwringing over words and symbols is dumb anyways. Its like that time a while back where the OK symbol somehow meant your a nazi lmao. and that it 100% has, is, and will be used as a psychological weapon against minorities in public places because of this "it's just the ok symbol, bro" cover, right? really the only reason to dismiss this fact is ignorance or maliciousness, i'm just trying to gauge which.
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Nov 16, 2021 17:31
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odd how this "COMPARED TO LAST YEAR!!" poo poo, much like the caravans, never came up before. oh, do things suck for the poor in america? how KIND of you to finally loving notice gop, but don't worry: the next time an "r" is a president all of those concerns will go away. like a miracle.
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Nov 16, 2021 18:07
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OctaMurk posted:ok only means "im a nazi" in the context of white supremacistz talking to each other "lmao" at what exactly?
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Nov 16, 2021 19:07
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Mellow Seas posted:While there's a good chance of arrest if you do it in the wrong community I don't think anybody is getting four years in prison for it, which is the as of today the max sentence for Capitol invasion. if you or i thought hard enough about the capital while also wanting good things for poor people it would be much higher.
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Nov 17, 2021 20:57
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Kale posted:My takeaways from the Gosar censuring thing are both to marvel at the fact that they apparently gave a guy like that committee assignments to begin with and to wonder at the sheer howling you'd hear from the GOP if a Democratic house rep had posted a video advocating for violence against Trump while he was president. Cow Bell posted:Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. Advocating someone get 40 years for the high crime of dressing like an idiot during a riot is tantamount to torture. Absolutely an insane opinion to hold.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:33
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right? i mean charles manson wasn't even in the same building!
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Nov 17, 2021 21:55
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i mean...they printed t-shirts. just because the plan was half baked lovely and stupid doesn't mean an attempt wasn't made. poo poo, it was basically the same plan that killed ben ghazi and the gop didn't shut up about that for...ever...
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Nov 17, 2021 23:19
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Fister Roboto posted:Like for gently caress's sake, Matt Gaetz is still a sitting congressman and he's been accused of sex trafficking. The Dems are just gonna yell and pound the table but not actually do anything about it. you're looking for that but with your theories?
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Nov 18, 2021 00:24
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm sorry, are you trying to equate Gaetz's sex trafficking allegations with an insane right wing theory? Please elaborate. pretending that you have no idea what an analogy is, that two things can be analogous on their resemblance without being directly comparable in all aspects, is not a great tactic. "this fruit is sweet, like candy." "oh so now fruit are all sugar coated???"
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Nov 18, 2021 00:56
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Peter Daou Zen posted:Oh yeah , those guys were totally gonna capture Pelosi and hog tie her up and ask her where her Icecream stash is!(That’s not a coup) hey...hey...hey: maybe everyone here already saw that idea, literally the simplest idea possible, and already dismissed it. here you are with "look, i'm just presenting these new and original ideas 10 months later and you're not even pretending to think about it  "thank you for your input. i promise that, from now on, i'll strongly consider "this is no big deal" before making decisions from now on. i hadn't even considered that. i just saw some people on tv and the news said they were bad so i saw red. thank you for this fresh perspective on the issue.
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Nov 18, 2021 01:33
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:lol and never forget that Philly PD firebombed their own residents, burning down 60 homes and killing 11 people, half of whom were kids, and nobody was punished except for the only adult survivor who then did 7 years in prison for "rioting" like two days ago the police killed two innocent people because they heard gunshots down the block. they then charged the people who fired the gunshots, blocks away, with murder.
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Decon posted:Jesus... Got links to articles on the incident? https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/us/pennsylvania-teens-charged-for-murder-of-fanta-bility/index.html quote:Ford and Strand exchanged multiple gunshots with each other following a verbal altercation at a football game [...] and led to police, stationed near the entrance to the football stadium, to discharge their weapons, Stollsteimer said. The "gunfire by the officers wounded three bystanders and tragically killed Fanta Bility," he said quote:On November 18, a grand jury will review the entire case to determine the use of deadly force by police at the scene was justified, quote:Stollsteimer has not identified the officer who shot the fatal bullet, but all three have acknowledged firing on the vehicle holding Fanta. quote:The officers say they mistakenly believed the vehicle was involved in the shooting between the 16-year-old and Strand, which unfolded about a block away from the stadium. InsertPotPun fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Nov 18, 2021 |
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Nov 18, 2021 02:35
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das hipster posted:You'll forgive me if I don't take the person who literally said that they could have shot BLM protesters from the White House with zero consequences seriously. It's not really a statement that anyone could take seriously. "no one can take this person seriously!!" you say, while following them and quoting them screaming at them to provide evidence of their opinion. why? what evidence could they provide? they basically said "in an alternate universe things are different" and you've been barking for three hours for proof of this. meanwhile literally everyone else saw the opinion, silently agreed or disagreed with this opinion. the moved on. and here you are. demanding proof that this alternate universe's events are fact. while screaming "no one can take you seriously!!!" the entire time.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:They’re even going to comment in the feedback thread from last month and re-open it. These are the promises of people committed to change. VideoGameVet posted:They had t-shirts printed up for it.  also, from their own link: quote:FBI investigators did find that cells of protesters, including followers of the far-right Oath Keepers and Proud Boys groups, had aimed to break into the Capitol. But they found no evidence that the groups had serious plans about what to do if they made it inside, the sources said. it's chafe. you can dispute any number of single facets of the story but that doesn't dispute the whole just because my head bounced off that tree doesn't mean i wasn't trying to make a rope swing InsertPotPun fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Nov 18, 2021 |
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Nov 18, 2021 05:15
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:I think the main issue with “it was a coup! Take this seriously” is that the Democratic Party isn’t. DarkCrawler posted:Why is the Democratic Party the arbiter of what is or isn't serious? virtualboyCOLOR posted:So why aren’t the Dems treating it as such?
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Nov 18, 2021 06:34
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pthighs posted:I can't find the damned article or I would post a link but after Jan 6 a Turkish woman wrote in The Atlantic or New Yorker or something about how this is exactly what coups are. They are in reality all dumb like this, until one of them succeeds and then all of a sudden it's not dumb anymore. It's not like the movies where a team of elite operatives seize control without anyone noticing. If you think the Republican-controlled Pennsylvania state legislature won't gladly vote that Trump won the election in 2024 if the Supreme Court lets them, regardless of the actual vote count, then I guess we just have to agree to disagree. https://twitter.com/ukigoni/status/1346926493952319489 https://twitter.com/ukigoni/status/1346967655874519042 virtualboyCOLOR posted:Are the courts actively blocking the Dems from writing and sending Trump and members of Congress a subpoena? virtualboyCOLOR posted:Evidence? InsertPotPun fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Nov 18, 2021 |
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skylined! posted:Here's a live stream if you want to watch mccarthy poo poo out of his mouth.
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