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Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo
The Republican agenda is what an absolute majority of Americans want, in its entirety, regardless of polling. Talk to people IRL, they're fascists. All of this is representative as gently caress.

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Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Carew posted:

Isn't this how unions basically work though? I mean of course there are limits to certain types of people you can or should build solidarity with but unions are a pretty big indicator that you can get chuds to stand with you if they get something out of it.

They don't stand with you on anything but getting a better contract.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo
I don't even care about democracy, anything other than fascist/theocratic rule at this point would be worth any price

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Mellow Seas posted:

\/\/\/\/\/\/ It's an open question. They have not yet proven that their strategy is effective. They still need to actually win in 2022 and '24, not just look like they're going to, and they need to avoid widespread civil unrest as they cement their power, which the summer of 2020 suggests will not be easy.

They let the unrest go in 2020 to make Dems look bad. If it were happening in a way that threatened them directly instead of embarrassing Dem mayors they'd have used VX instead of CS and 85% of Americans would've cheered it on.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Anno posted:

My wife, who teaches 6-8th graders, once joked that if a parent asked her what she was doing re: teaching CRT that her response would basically be to ignore what CRT really means and appeal to their likely sense of American exceptionalism. Explain that teaching children hurtful lessons about the past so that they may learn from them is how America remains the land of opportunity and freedom for everyone so many years later. Some nonsense like that. I laughed at the time but I don’t honestly think it’s the dumbest idea.

They don't care, they'd probably just assault her.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo
School bussing is terrible in reality because it means the most disadvantaged kids are spending 2 hours on the bus twice a day anyway

edit: to go to a racist white school whose good outcomes won't apply to someone who isn't rich and white and a legacy at wherever anyway!

Wang Commander fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Dec 3, 2021

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Centrist liberals it seems are going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the notion that they can win elections literally by just saying 'I'm not Trump' and rubbing their fingers together expectantly.

People like their big wet boy!

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo
So on the Roe news, are Obergefell and Loving pretty much dead now too?

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo
Lol we've lost everything

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo
You're subtweeting essentially a trans anti fascist who has been injured in combat with the fascist enemy while arguing for unilateral disarmament, what the gently caress is wrong with you, guns on the Left are all that stand between us and Rwanda style door to door genocide

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Sanguinia posted:

You're sure as hell not going to shoot them away despite what you tell yourself to justify whatever toy you recently bought. You mock the idea of "voting them away," when your plan is just as much a total fantasy.

US forces have been defeated by armed insurgencies over and over and it's taken for granted that threat of right wing gun guy insurgency is why we can't have nice things in the US. Why is an armed community absurd and impotent only when it's on your side? Why do you fetishize the power of your enemies while dismissing your own?

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

VitalSigns posted:

Guns are marketed to those people as totems that make them better than other people. People with guns are the powerful rugged lions, everyone else are dumb skittish sheep.

Hunting has nothing to do with it, she's some bougie realtor. They give their child a gun because he's going to grow up to be a lion not a sheep, of course the sheep get frightened when they see him searching ammunition on his phone in class, they want to turn him into a sheep like them.

If you don't have a gun you're totally under the power of anyone who wanders by with a gun. This didn't come up too often in cushy middle class white America for the last few decades but times are changing fast and an infantry rifle and hard armor just seems prudent, like preparing for hurricane season.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Crain posted:

Assuming this is the situation you find yourself in, you are in open warfare.

They farm a lot of this out to Proud Boy types and local hicks historically if you look at Jim Crow and a lot of the 20th century oppression of Native Americans or the 2020 protests. Genocide is manpower-intensive and people are likely to be facing Kyle Rittenhouse and friends at least at first - in fact, they literally are right now! You're making a lot of assumptions here about it being useless to street fight with the freikorps because you can't beat up a tank or whatever.

Edit: my point isn't about a one man civil war, I'm just curious as to why liberals advocate rolling over so completely you can't even deal with outside agitator vigilantes like Kyle trying to do their little freelance pogroms in your neighborhood

Wang Commander fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Dec 3, 2021

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo
The Rittenhouses of the world are part of a continuum leading up through street gangs and freikorps to action movie level oppression. They're all the same thing. This happens over and over again. I'm not sure why not being able to fight off the worst case single-handed is an argument against being able to mount a deterrent against the criminals and adventures like Rittenhouse who are the face of fascist violence at this very moment.

We literally saw small groups of guys like that harassing people door to door in residential areas in 2020. Or the wildfire checkpoints. It starts small and weak and informal!

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Sanguinia posted:

I made the comment about Trans Self Defense not because I don't believe that Trans People, or any person, doesn't have the right to defend themselves, but because the statistics show incontrovetibly that no matter who you are, trans or otherwise, a gun isn't going to protect you. Its far more likely to get you killed. That, again, its the "security blanket." Owning a gun may make you feel safer if you're someone like World Famous W's brother, but every bit of evidence screams that it doesn't.

How do those numbers look when you remove suicide and domestic abuse, which we're not at all talking about here?

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Keyser_Soze posted:

It's too late for any sort of "gun control" in this country besides "annoyance" laws like CAL, but you can't even get even the "leftiest" TFR goons to admit that guns have gotten extremely loving nerdy and available since 2000 or whatever and never should have been allowed to become a nerd collector hobby. They can't even have a basic Glock without adding 5 attachments to it and adding camo cerakote or an M4 without dying the plastic bits lime green or purple (and having 15 attachments) and are always dreaming of their next purchase (I need a short one a long one a pink one a purple one, etc!). NERDS

I would definitely argue that the ratio of guns to gun ranges is now so high in the cities and suburbs that no one knows what the gently caress they're doing particularly.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Lib and let die posted:

I'll risk getting hit for carrying on the discussion after we've been asked to stop:

Buddy, it's a second amendment right for the chuds to do this but it's openly discussing the merits of terrorism for you to even talk about it. This ain't the venue.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Keyser_Soze posted:

They already flew to Belarus on Trump's jet.

Unless it's Covid job related or the student was blatantly ripped off by Phoenix/DeVry etc, I think a lot of people probably have a problem with everyone getting their student loans waived especially if they had to pay their own off over 10+ years.

I worked in the oilfield to pay off my student loans really fast and the experience made me really big on free college and debt forgiveness because we were out there offshore busting our dicks for what? Strip malls, gas stations, cardboard houses, poverty, debt? It fuckin sucks to work in a critical job you can be really proud of and then come back home every month and realize all the fruits of it were squandered on building a trashy lame loving scam based society.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Medullah posted:

I mean, they're not wrong...based on some of the things I saw posted on our local Facebook group and hahaah Nextdoor, there were plenty of people ready to hit them pretty hard.

I wouldn't shed a single tear for people who groomed, armed, and trained a fascist terrorist, they deserve whatever they get

I really am glad to hear the community isn't making excuses, this kid isn't becoming the new Kyle

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Keyser_Soze posted:

I borrowed a shitload for grad school and paid it all back myself - so I do have a tiny bit of "meh" towards some wealthy dipshit that went to some expensive school that they chose and now demands it be paid off and whines on the internet. Everyone else should get at least that $10k relief though.

Every single wealthy overeducated dipshit whines loudly on Twitter, so you've seen the whole population of them and it's not many people. If school were free those places would be full of genuine scholars and not moron failsons I think

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Student loan debt slavery is something Joe Biden genuinely, personally believes in. He's never going to forgive it. These are their values. This is what they are willing to sacrifice everything for.

Yep. Big wet boy is under fewer ideological constraints than the goblin libs in general even

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Why is that a job you would be “really proud of”?

It was an engaging job with passionate people in an absolutely essential and at the time incredibly innovative industry, the kind of thing someone would need to be doing regardless of place or time or political or economic system. I think it should be phased out and I think like any big corporation the oil majors are super unscrupulous but you could never call it a "bullshit job".

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo
Naw it's just there's nothing like working in a literal guts of society industry to make you realize the society built on the guts is lovely as hell. My only career aspiration now is too get a bullshit WFH where I can hunker down and do as little as possible.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

This post is pretty much what convinced me to start carrying a gun.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Pretty big news: The DOJ is letting all federal prisoners released to home confinement due to Covid serve the rest of their terms on house arrest and not have to return to prison.

They are also going to expand the program to allow some federal prisoners to serve out parts of their sentence on house arrest permanently.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1473401057539768330

Have to make sure things are cushy for the 1/6 guys getting long terms now!

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Cow Bell posted:

Should've shot 'em, amirite folks?

It's pretty much failed state poo poo for the security forces on site to have been unable to capture or incapacitate all of them during the incident, yes.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Trazz posted:

That's just Marjorie Taylor Greene btw

I choose to believe 100% in this theory

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Mellow Seas posted:

Ted Cruz does have a very good chance the Republican nomination, because, although people here are often too focused on Democrats to notice, Republicans and their voters are loving awful and love terrible, terrible things.

He DID finish second in 2016, well ahead of the non-Trump field, and frankly that does make him a frontrunner for 2024.

Trump is the nominee in '24 if he doesn't backdoor in via Speaker, period.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Epic High Five posted:

The sigma mindset hustle grinders do seem super common in the youthful cohorts nowadays, but it's probably mostly a product of the fact that some among them's entire lives are consumed with a drive to build a brand and never stop advertising, which every social media platform has bent over backwards to enable and encourage. Probably no better time in history to be recruiting for MLMs or a narcissist

The thing to be hopeful about if you're looking for that sort of thing is just how normalized among them stuff like socialism and LGBT rights are, when I was that age everybody was a moron libertarian (including myself)

It definitely won't make them all rich. People talk a lot about nfts for instance but it seems to be like a 4 to 5 digit number of mostly already rich people who are really actively trading nfts day to day, but the hype cloud is immense.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

camoseven posted:

I mean what's the alternative? Go to college for a useless degree and rack up debt, then work a 9-5 you hate forever. Or go straight to the workforce and eat poo poo in retail. Or... hustle and see if it works! Your healthcare is gonna be awful regardless

My union constantly has unfilled jobs at 200k for people with college + 2-3 years of experience. Good jobs seem to basically grow on trees these days.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Injuryprone posted:

Lmao okay. What union would this be?

We're so small I'm not comfortable doxxing myself but everywhere we work we hear about similar shortages of 70k-250k workers. The jobs just loving suck though, it's blue collar stuff, think oilfield.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Herstory Begins Now posted:

eh the poo poo that grind your body into dust and kills you is not the stuff paying 200k a year in most cases.

If you gently caress up your body doing that kind of skilled trades work you're doing it really wrong imo.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Herstory Begins Now posted:

E: \/ yeah that's what apprentices are for

Yeah I love having the apprentices when we can get some. They're in pretty high demand. I just try to see how the tiniest woman and the beefiest muscle guy do a given job because they'll usually do stuff smart/right while us average guys are heaving with our backs like morons.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

haveblue posted:

Two nuclear states cannot go to war even slightly

The US has definitely lost its nuclear edge, the Russian investment in hypersonic, orbital, and low-altitude nuclear systems mean that they could probably missile-defense their way out of a strike from our aging ballistic missiles while laying waste to an unprepared USA with their next-gen systems.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

CommieGIR posted:

Yeah that's not how Mutually Assured Destruction works, and no Russia doesn't have enough of any of that to negate a counterstrike.

Everyone is losing their mind over FOBS and hypersonics, there has to be a reason. If ballistic missile MAD still held like it did in the Cold War better offensive capabilities would be irrelevant in the face of a sub-based retaliation, for this to matter we must have reached a point where ballistic missile defense is a lot more robust than anyone lets on.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

idiotsavant posted:

Also for that 200k of trades work you’re going to be working 12-hour days and/or probably going to be on-call half the time. Most of your co-workers are going to be chuddy and/or racist as hell, all of your co-workers will be incredibly sexist, and a significant portion of them will be the kind of person previously mentioned in the thread that gets visibly angry if you use anything beyond a 5th grade vocabulary. None of the work you do will be creative in any way, and very little of it will feel collaborative.

The money is good, the benefits are good. Everything else, not so much.

If you don't see that high-wage white collar is exactly like this with a slightly different outside appearance you're missing the point. Anywhere you can get a decent wage in the US you're getting jerked around on-call and dealing with the whitest most harassing white boys in existence, unfortunately. It's by design.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

SpaceCadetBob posted:

Pretty sure working in energy is still pretty bad though.

Yeah as far as I know energy is still the worst and uniquely bad

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo
I agree, we need nationalized production and distribution of billions and billions of the accurate at home molecular tests used by the wealthy and big business.

Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Bottom Liner posted:

Even the worst states are near 50% vaxxed now. 45 are above 50%. The country as a whole is 61%.

50% of what?

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Wang Commander
Dec 27, 2003

by sebmojo

Ciprian Maricon posted:

There are lots of laws that Republicans hate that are still enforced, even in red states. The government isn't suddenly powerless to enforce policy just because you want to shield Biden from criticism.

Are they enforced on whites?

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