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Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Slugworth posted:

Is his information inaccurate? I genuinely have no realistic benchmark for answering that myself, but he seems to be regarded as trustworthy. He's definitely not funny, but that feels like a secondary concern.

His "joke sponsors" are gringy stuff and there are other map and activity providers that don't do that.

And hi, also a GBS refugee. From Finland, did my service in FDF, now in officer reserve. If anyone wants an opinion from the regional perspective now that we and Sweden are trying to get into NATO, drop a quote, but I intend to keep low profile and mostly just lurk here reading the news digest.

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Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Miloshe posted:

Dude, I went through MCT (Marine Combat Training for non-grunts, grunts go to SOI) in 2005 and we still trained to lay on our backs and fire our M16-A2's above a tree to create a dense enough pattern of 5.56 to take down an enemy aircraft.
I'm also thankful for you GBS refugees being around.

Something similar was in the manuals and few times trained in FDF field training exercises as a last resort air defense against helicopters, especially those dropping off enemy troops in early 2000's. Against air support crafts you just seek cover. Stupid and optimistic? Yes, but I guess the idea is that something is better than nothing.

And thank you!

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

In early 2000's they still taught in FDF that in case we had to go to a "real war" you should keep the edge of your foldable shovel sharpened in case you need hand-to-hand weapon as the traditional puukko, a relatively short knife, wasn't going to be enough. And puukko was really also something they expected reserve corps to bring from home with them mostly as a camping and food-making tool.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:

I think there are stories from conflicts where finding a sharpened edge on a field shovel means immediate execution of the captured soldier right there and then.

I think that's just an excuse to execute the POWs as like said, for example that FDF foldable shovel is really sturdy, and sharpening an edge to its side makes it an excellent tool to make kindling, or split the larger pieces into something that works on the smaller stoves. Next: every POW that does not surrender their spork on command. But I've actually heard the same stories.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

EorayMel posted:

What about a shovel you can put on a gun?



Put that to your assault rifle and start digging a firing position, and you'd be glad that the enemy got you before the armory sergeant.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Lum_ posted:

Honestly the best option is "the weakest point in the line", any breakthrough would be catastrophic for the Russians.

IMHO Russians have enough bulk to block any "weakest point" that seems likely, so it has to be a fake-out followed by the actual attack somewhere else.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Would you not expect to see multiple/secondaries if it was a hit on an ammo dump?

You know where it is hitting and when, you might as well take a video of it.

Anecdote: Our training troops were invited to a show where tanks were shooting at targets in a quarry. At one point of the show "INCOMING" was yelled and we scrabled. As it turns out a head-sized rock landed within 5 meters from out positions.

So yes taking a video is what you would expect, but since this is army doing stuff it still isn't 100% safe even in the best conditions.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Country with 2 Russia-carved separatist tumors shouldn't really be surprised that the Russian government is doing everything it can to stack the deck for a Russia-minded government that down the line OK's joining the Russian federation as a subject.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

knox_harrington posted:

I was in Georgia when the Russians blew up the only gas pipeline in the mid 00's. It was February I think and loving cold.

We should probably give Georgia a poo poo load of Stingers and Javelins too

We definitely should. Georgia is next in the laundry list, right after Ukraine and Moldova. And since Ukraine they are going to lose and Moldova won't happen without Ukraine, that's probably where the tsar will try some endgame next.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

ASAPI posted:

I was thinking the same thing. Russia can barely "manage" the current invasion, no way they can pull off a second one at the same time.

Here are my two cents on this:

The problem with Russia is that they will not run out of manpower. They also most likely won't run out of 50's and 60's gear they were unable to sell away when the USSR collapsed, so if they manage to lose Ukrainian war without any immediate collapse, they can almost immediately start to prepare for another war somewhere where they aren't bordering EU countries. Tsar would badly need a win, so they pick something more or less landlocked in the Inner Asia. Georgia and the smaller *stans in the Inner Asia are poor, and low population compared to Ukraine. Their main benefactor who is not Russia would also be China, who while being very pissed of that Russia is messing up with their road and belt-investments, would not get openly involved on Russia reclaiming its imagined "Sphere of influence" as it would be directly against their rhetoric about killing the autonomy in Hong Kong, and in general, Taiwan.

Its going to be North Korea-style army that does the next invasion, but unlike North Korea the Putin's Russia isn't contained to the same degree by being bordered everywhere by richer and/or larger neighbors.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Vladivostok? That, uh, sounds like some pretty major unrest. I think maybe things are not going so well for poots

It is a big thing if it is true. So far we know someone torched a A) museum exhibit, or B) abandoned parts donor in a scrap yard or C) the real thing.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Arrath posted:

Mine sweeping, one presumes based off of the employment of similar quipment.

E: oh motherfucker

Honestly the example one in the tweet image makes Renault FT and Whippet look like they are just a matter of time anymore. I mean, for the general equipment most of the WW1 firearms have already made their appearances in this war.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

psydude posted:

Am I the only person who's confused about why Russia is still holding on to 70 year old equipment?

They were unable sell that stuff away after USSR collapsed, so they are just throwing it at the enemy at this point since they don't have anything else left in their "'unending' vaults of soviet gear".

...And its not *that* crazy, FDF is also a hoarder and some of the stuff that served in WW2 was just recently (ie. less than 30 years ago) donated away or scrapped, most of the after-WW2 stuff besides vehicles and planes are still in the vaults as a backup for a backup for a backup.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Well, this war has definitely shown that if your armory has the reserves to give a ww2/Korea-era machine gun and semiautomatics to the third line infantry and troops guarding the transit lines, you are beyond the capabilities of how Russian kits out their client states and militia.

Throw a couple of recoilless rifles from the 60's against armored cars and other vehicles without proper ERA to the more important staging areas, and you are better than well-off against Russia in the near future.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Jimmy Smuts posted:

Gotta remember that Russia hasn't had a large computer industry since 1991, so their engineers might be stuck in the '80s mindset.
I wonder if any of their equipment is running on MS-DOS, CP/M, or similar ancient OSs.

Large part of what is considered western world and manufacturing industry is still running on DOS, CP/M and similarly ancient stuff. Almost all corporate data centers, and old systems, have that mythical "blinking box" which no-one knows what it does and why it exists, but you aren't allowed to even intensively stare at it because last time it stopped blinking people died and/or the stock dropped like a stone, or the production line was dead in the water for several hours until the box started to blink again. There is actually a niche market for people sufficiently skilled in programming with 50's, 60's and 70's stuff like Fortran or Pascal in the legacy maintenance cycles. I wish I was kidding but I am not.

But obviously you shouldn't build new stuff on top of that stuff.

Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Mar 17, 2023

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Jimmy Smuts posted:

I wonder what's on his computer. Porn? Cat pics? His memoirs? I guess :nsa: would know due to it running XP

Pirated Hearts of Iron 2 without the later official expansion disk. It is also his chief advisor since Shoigu is that weird guy who collects petrified wood for his "projects" and Gerasimov was hired because he sort of looks like the "bad guy" commander Harris from the Police Academy movies Putin loves.

Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Mar 17, 2023

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Power Khan posted:

We had such a box in the server room. They're real. They fired the guy who knew how to operate it and then had to bring him back for big extra $

If you are capable FORTRAN/COBOL/Pascal/original-C programmer you probably will make more money than any other coder monkey in the planet in the next 20 or so years. Especially if you have any idea on pre-Internet network protocols.

You basically set your rate for re-engineering stuff or fixing problems, and if they say "no" they will come back down the line with at least matching rate and bonus for delivering early and the government/finance/MIC will have a fight concerning your services.

Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Mar 17, 2023

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Computer viking posted:

With the small caveat that their only land links are through Russia and through a rarely used goods line to Sweden way up north.

I kid you not but there has been actual talks on doing another "eurotunnel", this time between Helsinki and Tallinn. But that obviously kinda expects that the rail connection from Estonia to Central Europe works well enough to warrant this.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Loezi posted:

"Talks" i.e. a mini-Elon who made his money with angry birds said he's totally gonna do it, just believe me guys, ignore that Helsinki officials told him to gently caress off with all his plans. Oh and you should definitely go and buy some of those tickets he's been selling for a few years now, I'm sure that's a good way to save money.

Well, its talks and looking for investors regardless. And much more realistic, and when functional useful and robust than series of bridges and "top of the seabed" tunnels from Turku archipelago to Åland and Sweden.

Most probably Åland government would block it anyway, because they absolutely do not want a road from Marienhamn to continent. So it has to go from Turku to Sweden directly.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

steinrokkan posted:

Russian upgrade kits


It's for masking its heat signature.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Well at least that french potatonose and other Putin posterboy Gerard Depardieu had the sense to flunk off from Russia before overcommitting to the tax and law evasion made possible with the Russian passport, unlike what Seagal did.

Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Mar 22, 2023

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Herstory Begins Now posted:

seen a sub 1 minute turn around from 'what are you a loving pussy' to the guy saying that standing unmasked in a literal cloud of asbestos

I used to work in a nuclear power plant when I was an undergraduate, and firsthand saw the hauling meatheads insulting my maintenance crew for being "limpdicked noodle arms" for not being able to carry a semi-filled 40 litre container of waste water to the waste processing plant. They were hugging, lifting and tossing it around to each other while laughing at us in the "cleaning crew".

..Except that container, as mentioned in the work order I filed earlier, was filled with highly radioactive water and other residue collected from the cooling system filtering pools, and we needed those guys since they were the only ones certified to operate the cargo crane and 2-stage lock between the reactor hall and the maintenance tunnels. Taking it through the service building would have been a radiation spread incident.

Hopefully those meatheads liked showering and sweating in the de-con sauna together.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Lead out in cuffs posted:

There's a part in The Hundred Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out of the Window and Disappeared that has this flavour. I've only seen the movie, not read the book, but it sounds like the book might actually be funnier.

The books are all like that (there is now several of them), sort of Forrest Gumpesque story of the guy who always has just happened to be the one that causes odd things and historical events to happen around him. "Modern versions of Arto Paasilinna's comedies and folk stories about publicly unknown great men", as defined by the author.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Military/LEO-made stuff comes with thermal and nightvision, it isn't secret sauce science anymore, upscaled hobbyist stuff is restricted to normal cameras, and not even all of them as my kinda ape mentions above.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

That Works posted:

Didnt the Russians develop that one on their own?

Yeah, and making it so quickly, and ending up with something that wasn't completely useless, was one of the very very few things Russia has done during the last decade that was seriously impressive.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

GD_American posted:

One of the college E-4s in our basic training platoon got caught keeping a pin from grenade training day and got busted to E-1.

Why would anyone care what people do with the leftover pin, if it is from a live grenade that was thrown as an exercise?

Murgos posted:

I kept the ring off one CS grenade I threw and still have it and use it as a key ring.

I also kept mine from the one time in basic training we were allowed to throw a real one, still part of the keychain.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Itchy_Grundle posted:

Been out since 2001 and I still have similar dreams. It's usually about not having the right uniform for an upcoming event. Like I have BDU pants and a Dress Blue jacket and where the gently caress is my shirt?

Similarly been out since 2001 and sometime still get dreams where I have re-enlisted (which isn't even possible for just reservists in FDF) as a training officer. And its always at night in wintertime, and I am trying to get a headcount of conscripts in the building, or trying to find missing parts of my uniform.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Tunicate posted:

According to Lunev 84 of the USSR suitcase nukes went missing at the end of the cold war, fortunately if they have gone this long without changing out the fissile material they should no longer be functional.

If none of them has surfaced even in the unusable condition later it does bring up the question if they actually went missing, or when someone who wasn't on the take did the inventory, they found out that there were 84 less than what was paid for. After all, shameless grifting and endless corruption wasn't invented by Putin's regime.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Deptfordx posted:

Would it though?

It seems reasonable to presume any plausible carrier-killer scenario is going to have China or Russia as the culprit.

Well they have nukes too.

I feel like "Oh we lost a carrier. Welp! Guess it's time to end the world" :shrug: might just inspire second thoughts about your response being to automatically go nuclear.

Its actually fairly interesting question; US being the only country which has meaningful amount of carrier groups to mean jack poo poo on the global scale, how would they respond to losing one? Russia lost Moskva which basically meant pretty much the same thing for their Black Sea operations around Odessa, and didn't go all in with nukes, not even the smaller "tactical" ones.

Also, 666 hail satan.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

psydude posted:

WTF did Russia have to gain by destroying those pipelines? It completely destroyed their leverage against Germany.

In Russian mind, "now the EU needs to come to the negotiations table and abandon Ukraine or they will freeze to death, and they need to divert resources to fix the lines".
In everyone else's mind, "now that the gas pipelines are dead we no longer need to negotiate with Russia and can openly support Ukraine".

Also, it is not completely insane proposal that this was done as an escalation to force EU to choose sides. At this point of the conflict it still seemed possible that Germany and France might decide to sit this one out, and force the rest of the EU to do the same "because we need to focus on getting these lines back online and work with Russia". Similarly, it could have also been done by Putin's inner circle to demonstrate internal politics that backing off and going back to being a mob-ran gas station is no longer an option so stop talking about it.

Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 27, 2023

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Cimber posted:

Really I think the only way this truly ends is if Putin falls out a window, some new guy comes in and decides that the Russian economy is going to be in shambles for the next fifty years if they keep being dicks and calls it off so they can get off the sanctions list.

Yes, and within decade there will be a cabinet coup where this new leader dies "naturally" and the imperialists take over, or the new leader degenerates into a drunken husk while the Putin-worshiping prime minister who yearns the glory years of early-2000's takes over.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Lum_ posted:

There are a number of factions which could take over in the event Putin dies peacefully in his sleep while falling out of a window.

- the technocrats - Mikhail Mishushtin (prime minister), Elvura Nabiullina (central bank head). These are the people who would lead Russia back to something approaching normalcy and solvency. They have absolutely no power base and no chance of taking power.

- the loyalists - Sergei Shoigu (defense minister), Sergei Lavrov (foreign minister), Dmitriy Medvedev (whatever he's doing now). These are people who owe everything they have to Putin liking them and are wildly corrupt. They have some minor power base but almost certainly will not take power and instead will be the scapegoats for everything bad that happened.

- the spies - Nikolai Patrushev (head of national security council), Alexander Bortnikov (head of FSB). These are the people who know where all the bodies are buried and are most likely to take over. However they will last in that role about as long as Lavrenty Beria did after Stalin's death.

- the warlords - Yevgeny Prigozhin (head of Wagner PMC), Ramzan Kadyrov (proconsul of Chechnya), Dmitiry Rogozin (professional troll). These guys have their own private militias and no matter who takes over in Moscow they will have guns and a veto. Will almost certainly in the short term cause massive instability. Hell, even Gazprom has their own militia now.

- the dissidents - Navalny et. al. They have no chance whatsoever of taking power unless a massive revolution/civil war happens.

Basically in the event of Putin dying suddenly, Russia is going to very quickly look like a nuclear-armed Syria.

Very good and informative, thank you!

Although one addition: There is no way Shoigu or Kadyrov becomes anything more than scapegoats, because they aren't considered Russians, but people from minorities. Kadyrov has the muscle, but there is absolutely no chance that Rosgvardia leaders after Putin accept him as anything else than a regional warlord working for the boss man.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

WarpedLichen posted:

I think there were reports saying that the Ukrainian battery was brand new and hard parts the US didn't even have yet, would have to dig out that article though.

Well, there really isn't any better trial ground for new stuff than Ukraine at the moment, but obviously there are limitations on what you can send to Ukraine if you want to keep the details of such system a secret.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

I find it sort of funny that the slit armor works when it goes against the old Soviet anti-armor weapons, but basically has no meaning against the western weapons produced after 60's. It worked in the recent conflicts for the NATO and US forces because their enemy was using old Soviet weapons.

So the Russians took the exactly wrong lesson here; they are cope-caging against their own weapons, not against the weapons their opponent uses. The only part of the cope cage that actually sort-of works, is the one that makes it impossible for an overhead drone to drop a grenade down the open hatch; why are you driving or guarding with your hatches open, and/or why aren't you doing anything useful to counter the drones.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008


Imagine what they could achieve if they put this much effort into attacking some actual military target, instead of terror-bombing the cities and civilians.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Infidelicious posted:

To be fair, the Patriot Battery they're trying to hit is a military target?


Yes, in a civilian city outside the frontlines and the only thing Russia could achieve by erasing it would be to enable more terror bombing on civilians.

The Russians are completely unable to do anything that makes sense strategy-wise unless its about war crimes, then they do meticulous planning and execution and use their resources efficiently. But if its not a war crime or act towards doing war crimes then Russia is just, well, Russia.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Cimber posted:

Pretty much. The only thing the Russians have left is nuclear weapons, which they are not going to employ.

And even with them it is a question mark how deep the rot is on their nuclear arsenal with the economic crisis of 90's and deep deep corruption afterwards, but for a very obvious reason no-one wants to find out the answer to that.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Icon Of Sin posted:

Did someone else get promoted to submarine?

Internet said that it isn't really optimal place for torpedo to hit, so its probably not in the Black Sea submarine fleet yet, but if that drone detonated that thing isn't going anywhere on its own power for the rest of this war.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

I mean yeah, the final destination was Finland :v:

You think that you left the soviet depression behind when you crossed the border, but on the way to Helsinki decide to make a stop on this city called "Kouvola" because it sounds kinda fun and it has an amusement park on the advertisement billboard.

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Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

As long as "F**k you Russia" gets enough bi-partisan support so that the Trump Republicans can't sink it, I can't see a downside on continuing to support Ukraine. Its easier to funnel money into the MIC when the stuff they make gets actually used, or replaces the stuff that gets actually used.

Especially if China shows any further signs of jumping off the fence and into the pro-Russia camp it has been considering for a moment now.

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