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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Yes 420 4.43%
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temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Twitter might glitch and go down for a bit but the goal isn't kill it. The goal is to monetize it. Elon wants to cut expenses and then put a premium on poo poo posting. The $8 verification is the latter and the firings is the former. He probably didn't expect 90% employee loss but he's the type to brag about gutting a business for efficiency sake. Paying for access could work, somethingawful does it. He'll pay to retain/rehire who he needs based on what breaks. I can see other companies doing something similar in the future. If the recession is deep enough, its probably a reality. Twitter was just the first major player to sell. But once a site sells, the userbase isn't a value in of itself, it will be coerced into being consumers.

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temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

kw0134 posted:

He could have gotten a site like that for literally a millionth of the price he paid. His debt obligations are massive compared with the revenue stream you're describing, even if he were to cut operations to the bone and can actually keep the site running on such a crew, debt servicing will cause a default sooner than later.

This is like nuking a marginally profitable mall so that you can set up a lemonade stand in the parking lot while you still have to pay the mortgage on the whole building.
Of course, he doesn't need the money.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Catastrophe posted:

All of these weirdos coming out of the woodwork to proclaim that this was all Elon's grand plan all along and everything is going perfectly because he's just playing 4D chess.

I THINK I've heard that kind of delusional sentiment about someone before but I can't really place my finger on where... hmm.....

I think you're gaslighting yourself if you think elon/trump supporters are trolling by saying twitter might not die

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
apparently its fake

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Bad Purchase posted:

the only reason i look at twitter at all is that it seems to have the best system for cross-site embeds.
That's it in a nut shell.

There's two ways to kill an app. User behavior changes and a lack of institutional support. Apple, Google, Microsoft, or protocol committees could push down updates. Twitter would really need engineers to keep up or face incompatibilities. If the software is no longer reliable or compatible, users' would be willing to move to another platform for convenience sake. The internal stability of twitter is less a threat because elon likes tweeting so he has a personal investment in keeping it running. But externally, they can't control other software or hardware companies without their leverage of userbase. Less compatibility or less users would create a spiral.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

The Saddest Rhino posted:

it's not just an email, it's an email with a "click here to press yes to confirm your continued employment - silent means consenting to termination" button which is insane in any jurisdiction, but apparently not in America

Its insane in America.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Wire fraud owns

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
This is a romance novel character for men.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
The problem with the moral hazard line is nobody blocks loans and forgiveness for corporations. Sure they complain but corporate welfare gets doled out regardless.

edit: Elon uses moral hazards all the time actually.

temple fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Nov 22, 2022

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Its not even about costs or profit, its just forcing out anyone with self worth.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Hardcastlemccormik posted:

All sorts of yummy treats this morning.

https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1595105196413448192

Perfect time to get into crypto tbh

Paypal with racism

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Regrettable posted:

It worked for SpaceX and Tesla, right? What else could they have that would make qualified people so excited to join? Space missions and electric self-driving vehicles? Nah, nerds hate that stuff.
SpaceX and Tesla have more upsides for humanity if they succeed vs a crowdsourced cyberbullying platform.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
There's big loving line between sandy hook and twitter villains. Jones is on the wrong side of that. Whereas trump tweets were a national pastime. Reinstating trump is gift.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
44 billion dollar mid-life crisis

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
If its a loan, who cares? Elon is worth enough for banks to get it back. If it is an investment, those guys don't care. They throw away money in VC. Making twitter a reactionary hellhole is expensive but worth it to them. The key for people at Elon's level is to tie everyone's money together so everyone has leverage on each other. Twitter won't survive as a republican stronghold because republicans are small change. But globally, a lot of people want the visibility of twitter to spout whatever bullshit agenda they have. Its a long game and Elon has positioned twitter as a platform for dumb stuff. Its like when Rupert Murdoch bought up media.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

vaginite posted:

Apple's doing it right by just ignoring this bullshit. Right wing media 101 is to provoke you into a dumb argument then twist your words into their narrative, and if you're just quiet they look like flailing idiots til they move to the next outrage.

Yeah I don't see why Apple has to respond. They are a many billion dollar company with real business concerns. This isn't reality TV and if anything, it would only elevate Musk for them to respond.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Hardcastlemccormik posted:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598718904830132225

If someone is yelling at me they must be an extremist :smug:

Center 80% don't use twitter. Center 80% can gently caress itself.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Twitter outlived the world cup.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

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I want to believe he's not mad

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
there is a time and place for nudity. the time is now and the place is threads

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Bad Purchase posted:

at this point the cia should just openly fund a twitter replacement through a shell company and promise no ads or monetization ever

apparently nobody cares about being spied on where they post memes and look at porn, so there's no need for all the backdoor cloak and dagger poo poo that snowden exiled himself over

they can just tap into the data directly and the world would willingly give it to them if the content and ui are good

would cost a couple billion per year, peanuts to the intelligence community
why set up their own when private businesses do it for them? (taps temple)

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

goatface posted:

Is it even possible to look at it without signing up? I have not tried.
Yes you can see a person's feed

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
VRChat is closer to a video game than a website front-end so its no surprise Meta failed at it. They should've stole employees from Epic. But its a misunderstanding of how people use computers and people aren't ready for headsets now like they weren't ready for touch screens back in the 70s-80s. If I'm lazing on my couch or home office, looking at a phone, I don't want to attach some hellmachine to my face. They have to figure a way to get the headset down to glasses size, give a little on immersion, and make it something you can do in transport.

Musk chat: He thought of this already and is suing me now (pedophile).

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
food snobs should be oppressed

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
He wants to see who can measure dicks the best, not measure each other's dicks.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

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Zuck should demand the penis pic.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
so no penis?

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Is this real? elon will call zuck a nazi.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
So I go to a company's twitter to get news about it. I need an account. What is the purpose of twitter?

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

kazil posted:

Musk is doing this AI stuff to make money.


Also he will make it say the gamer word
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlV0Y5yAww&t=55s

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
The most telling with thing about elon is never see him with his children. No paparazzi, not even a token gesture by elon himself. Even narcs manage to get some kid photos.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Further Reading posted:

You're missing a great deal, yes. On the user side they install a twitter bot and give it the instruction "hey look at this twitter handle". The bot is built by someone else who they don't know - it only takes twitter handles and only parses the specific JSON objects it returns. Could that programmer have the expertise to build something that looks at other APIs? Probably. The user however doesn't have access to the programmer nor means to contract them to make bespoke bots - they have a bot that translates twitter output. They can't point his twitter bot at any API and get coherent output, that's stupid.

To try to dumb it down. It's like asking an agency to send you someone who speaks Spanish then handing him a document in French and when they tell you they only speak Spanish you go "well gee it's the same thing - just looking at letters written in another language and making them English right? I don't see the difference."

are you the dwarf fortress guy? I used some of your guides.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
So weird that twitter was the funny/weird place for a while and now its the nazi propaganda network.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

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R.L. Stine posted:

also applies to every sa offsite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnCX_gIDSrA

temple
Jul 29, 2006

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Halisnacks posted:

So what is to be done? Saying “why not smoke cigarettes at all?” was at one point a pretty dumb and idealistic point of view, and we are now way past the point of peak cigarette use in some cultures. I’m probably a bit more passionate about it at this particular juncture because people seem willing to quit something (Twitter), so it seems like an opportune moment to ask people to question their SM use entirely. If not now, when?

And perhaps an unpopular opinion: I’m openminded to the idea that in a global context, Meta is the greater evil than Twitter, even if Zuck is personally less abhorrent than Musk. Which is to say, if someone told me they HAD to use at least one platform to feed their SM addiction, Twitter might be the lesser of two evils in a Twitter/Meta dilemma. To argue the opposite is to claim that Elon has caused more harm running Twitter than FB contributed to in Myanmar and Ethiopia/Eritrea.

Everything is evil and will remain so until El Cantare shines his light of love on to the solar system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGhzqhh_PQ0

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
We have to outlaw the printing press because people might read the wrong version of the bible. (((Gutenberg))) is harming children!

temple
Jul 29, 2006

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holtemon posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtjAi9QnEDc&t=32s

Tried to find one on Twitter (lol) to embed but got nothing. Question starts around 30s
unabridged

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Hl2_ph5F8

temple
Jul 29, 2006

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chappelle show aside, dave's standup was overrated.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

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feelix posted:

Was chappelles show actually good or were we just stupid children when it came out
Does it matter? I do think sketch and tv comedy is always weird and not funny in retrospect.

Comedians are big whiney babies and more so when they get old. Even Carlin became an angry old man. Pryor was barely funny after his immolation. I'm glad he got sick and quit.

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temple
Jul 29, 2006

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Sydney Bottocks posted:

Can someone drive me to the hospital, I think I sliced a tendon on this super edgy take

I meant it like he quit after being sick, not like I'm happy he got MS.

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